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[medstudent3563]

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It's all in the handouts? You basically know exactly what you're going to be tested on rather than reading chapters and chapters of textbooks and hoping you studied and recall the right thing? That's called being spoonfed. So you spend 24/7 memorizing useless facts you'll never have to use as a doctor...welcome to medical school. It seems like with NYCOM's class being twice as large as the avg class size there are also twice as many whiners on this board.

Besides <expletive>, its about how well the course prepares you for the Physiology on the boards.

And if a poll were taken among current NYCOM 2nd years asking how many of them are now using Dr Stepps handouts to prepare for Physiology boards, I would be shocked if the number were much more than zero. That's how worthless (after you complete the course) they are.

And keep in mind, 1st years are given 500-600 pages of these handouts and probably spend 120-150 hours studying them.

 

[tkim]

this is getting to be out of hand. if you want to criticize a school or faculty, please do it in a constructive way.

if the sole reason you registered on SDN was to bash a school, there's no reason for your continued membership here.

 

[medstudent3563]

Besides <expletive>, its about how well the course prepares you for the Physiology on the boards.

And if a poll were taken among current NYCOM 2nd years asking how many of them are now using Dr Stepps handouts to prepare for Physiology boards, I would be shocked if the number were much more than zero. That's how worthless (after you complete the course) they are.

And keep in mind, 1st years are given 500-600 pages of these handouts and probably spend 120-150 hours studying them.

ps- Sorry for blasting this incoming. But, in medicine, if you did what this guy did- which is to question someone who:

1) knows about the subject they’re talking about (in this case its the state of NYCOM’s Physio course)
2) is passionate about the subject matter (like I am)

then you’re going to get a negative reaction.

And if you’re doing it from a position of little knowledge and, especially, from a position of disrespect (like he did) then you’re going to get blasted.

 

[J1515]

ps- Sorry for blasting this incoming. But, in medicine, if you did what this guy did- which is to question someone who:

1) knows about the subject they’re talking about (in this case its the state of NYCOM’s Physio course)
2) is passionate about the subject matter (like I am)

then you’re going to get a negative reaction.

And if you’re doing it from a position of little knowledge and, especially, from a position of disrespect (like he did) then you’re going to get blasted.

I honestly don't care what you think about this professor. I don't have to sit through a class and experience it to be able to tell you that I'm going to study my ass off and suck it up instead of being a whiny crybaby and complain to everyone who will listen. I'm going into medical school realizing that i'm going to study 1000's of pages of text that i'll never use again, I don't care. I'm going into this knowing that I won't like some professors and will think they're wasting my time, I don't care. I'm going into this knowing that maybe I will have to memorize some of the most uninteresting garbage in the world and won't have a second of free time to have a life, I don't care. I have a bunch of friends at NYCOM and some of them have told me there are things that suck there, yet they're still passing all their classes (and some with honors) and they don't spend all their time trying to persuade me not to go there. Nor do they spend their time b!tching and whining on a public message board because they think it's "worthless."

 

[Doc2B-Finally]

Any one decided on lender yet for NYCOM?
Are we obligated to choose one from this list only?
http://www.fes.org/onlineap/easiapp/easiapp.asp?SID=00278202&SLT=S

 

[tedd1212]

after seeing that some of you got your packets requesting the march payment I called NYCOM the other day to see where mine was. the admin lady said that they were waiting to see what kind of immunizations were going to be required of the 2009 students. once they decided on this they would send out the march payment request packets. she also said that if the packets don't get out in time they may push the deadline back a bit. thought this might be useful for anyone waiting to hear from other schools before shelling out 1000beans. 👍

 

[Biodork111]

Is this true about the deposits? I called them yesterday to confirm when my march payment is due, they just said they were sending a letter out this week. Does that mean that the previous date (3/22) is nullified? If so that would be huge as I was just pounded with some unexpected expenses.

 

[tedd1212]

Is this true about the deposits? I called them yesterday to confirm when my march payment is due, they just said they were sending a letter out this week. Does that mean that the previous date (3/22) is nullified? If so that would be huge as I was just pounded with some unexpected expenses.

she said MAYBE if things didn't get sent out on time. it was contingent on when they got all their info together and sent out. sorry if i got your hopes up for nothing.

 

[Ajooba10]

Is this true about the deposits? I called them yesterday to confirm when my march payment is due, they just said they were sending a letter out this week. Does that mean that the previous date (3/22) is nullified? If so that would be huge as I was just pounded with some unexpected expenses.

I also called about the letter requesting the second payment. They said there was a delay but they will be sent out and I can wait until I receive the letter before I send the payment. But you could always call again to make sure.

 

[Biodork111]

The date I thought mine was due (3/22) is fine, I just also heard some people kicking around an earlier date...which would be pushing it. Granted I got myself into this mess (bought myself a car for a grad. present, and now I have to pay the taxes on it...gotta love NY), but it would be nice to have it put off a little bit. Maybe I'll try calling again, although they don't seem to like when I call. The woman practically yelled at me yesterday.

 

[ornis4]

Just bumping this up...and also wondering who has decided on a lender for financial aid? I can't decide if it's really nice of them to give us so many choices, or if it's completely rude if one is better than the others. I've been looking stuff over all night and still can't really decide. I think maybe MEDLoans and Medinvest are two that stand out...but I can't decide. Anyone else decide or definitively determine which is best?

 

[irishlaydi]

Just bumping this up...and also wondering who has decided on a lender for financial aid? I can't decide if it's really nice of them to give us so many choices, or if it's completely rude if one is better than the others. I've been looking stuff over all night and still can't really decide. I think maybe MEDLoans and Medinvest are two that stand out...but I can't decide. Anyone else decide or definitively determine which is best?

Hi. It took me forever to decide, but to me it looks like MedInvest is the best one. Someone else had said MedLoans looked good, but they have guaranter fees and origination fees. The medinvest doesn't and they have a better "cash back" deal (you get a certain % after each 12 payments ontime, something like that) whereas with other ones its not until 33 ontime payments...it just seemed the best once I figured all the numbers and such. The other one that I was deciding between was Total Higher Education (T.H.E) which a current med student on sdn was recommending to people. BUt that ones not on NYCOM's list, and MedINvest looked to be a better option. Just my opinion, hope it helps.

 

[mblum151]

Hi. It took me forever to decide, but to me it looks like MedInvest is the best one. Someone else had said MedLoans looked good, but they have guaranter fees and origination fees. The medinvest doesn't and they have a better "cash back" deal (you get a certain % after each 12 payments ontime, something like that) whereas with other ones its not until 33 ontime payments...it just seemed the best once I figured all the numbers and such. The other one that I was deciding between was Total Higher Education (T.H.E) which a current med student on sdn was recommending to people. BUt that ones not on NYCOM's list, and MedINvest looked to be a better option. Just my opinion, hope it helps.

I chose MedPreffered. My brother worked out a spread sheet with all the different lenders, and it seems like MedPreffered will allow you to pay off the loans in the shortest ammount of time (107 months) and gives you 10% credit after 48 months. It just seemed like the best deal to me.

 

[mblum151]

Does anyone know the schedule of classes and exams? I have no idea what our time in class is looking like. Also, do most students live by Old Westbury? Would it be too much to commute from Manhattan?

Thanks!

 

[misyel]

Also Id like to point out that memorizing minutia in the basic science courses is the very nature of med school, and is not a unique characteristic of Dr. Stepp or NYCOM. Like I said though I respect your opinion, I didn’t like Dr. Yu. However it is by no means a reason to not pick nycom as a school to attend ( a factor maybe but it shouldn’t be your only reason). Best of luck to you, it really does get better I promise. The first 2 years are the most stressful years of medical school, we are under a lot of pressure to perform, you just have to grin and bear it. To you incoming first years, get ready for the ride of your life...😀

hahahaha I just remembered something about Dr. Yu... I came up to him during class about the stupid T wave and why it's positive... I read his handouts before hand and I tried looking it up myself... he gave me this "are you stupid" look and told me to go home and read, and then ask him again. What the heck! LoL

 

[seacatch]

Just bumping this up...and also wondering who has decided on a lender for financial aid? I can't decide if it's really nice of them to give us so many choices, or if it's completely rude if one is better than the others. I've been looking stuff over all night and still can't really decide. I think maybe MEDLoans and Medinvest are two that stand out...but I can't decide. Anyone else decide or definitively determine which is best?

Hey Ornis. Have you decided on NYCOM? I think you interviewed in my group. Dec 7th w/ Pavia? I'll be attending for sure and am researching the loans now too.

 

[Doc2B-Finally]

Hi. It took me forever to decide, but to me it looks like MedInvest is the best one. Someone else had said MedLoans looked good, but they have guaranter fees and origination fees. The medinvest doesn't and they have a better "cash back" deal (you get a certain % after each 12 payments ontime, something like that) whereas with other ones its not until 33 ontime payments...it just seemed the best once I figured all the numbers and such. The other one that I was deciding between was Total Higher Education (T.H.E) which a current med student on sdn was recommending to people. BUt that ones not on NYCOM's list, and MedINvest looked to be a better option. Just my opinion, hope it helps.

Irishlaydi, it is my understanding that it doesn't matter which lender you go with. Even though T.H.E. is a not on NYCOM's list of preferred lender, we can still choose T.H.E. Some one please correct me if I am wrong. Based on my calculations, pay-off amount is the lowest with T.H.E. stafford loans. As a result, I intend to stick with them.

 

[ornis4]

Hey Ornis. Have you decided on NYCOM? I think you interviewed in my group. Dec 7th w/ Pavia? I'll be attending for sure and am researching the loans now too.

Hey there! Yeah I interviewed on Dec. 7th, seems like years ago now...although I still have the vivid memory of steady rain and me forgetting my umbrella...

NYCOM is not a definite for me yet...although I'm leaning that way. I'm holding seats at NYCOM and PCOM, waitlisted at UMDNJ-SOM, and I have an interview at UConn this friday, and that's been my first choice from day one. So any number of things can still happen. Of the DO schools, I think NYCOM has the edge for me based on clinical years and their match. I'm not in love with the Westbury campus/area, and I'm not entirely sure I wouldn't like my first two years at PCOM or UMDNJ-SOM better than NYCOM...but when it comes down to it, I love the NYC area, and the rotation sites can't be beat. If I don't get into UConn, then I'll probably be at NYCOM! And that's fine by me, I think it will be a great experience.

As for T.H.E. Loans...if we're allowed to choose them, then I encourage everyone to do so. I have been in grad school the past two years at NYMC, and they only go through T.H.E., and I really think it's the best, hands-down. Once I get confirmation that we can go through them, I'll definitely choose them.

 

[seacatch]

I'm leaning toward T.H.E. also. It seems the best option given uncertainty of future rates and the ability to consolidate. I still need to confirm NYCOM will not have a problem with it.

I remember interview day too. Not a very smooth one... lunch... rain... guides. I was the last one interviewed (and I was the oldest of us...). NYCOMs 3rd and 4th year options are great and the match is a big plus. I really like the flexibility to watch lectures over the internet. Good luck with U Conn. Otherwise perhaps I'll see you in August at NYCOM.

 

[DrBean09]

hi guys i was accepted into nycom last month but i'm still not 100% sure... (reserved but not confirmed) but if i decide to go there it would be nice to meet u all everyone sounds really supportive. 🙂

 

[Doc2B-Finally]

I called NYCOM Finaid and confirmed that borrowing from the non-listed lenders is not a problem. That clears up a way for us to consider T.H.E. or other lenders.

 

[seacatch]

I called NYCOM Finaid and confirmed that borrowing from the non-listed lenders is not a problem. That clears up a way for us to consider T.H.E. or other lenders.

Thanks for clearing it up. It saves me a call tomorrow and I'm probably going for T.H.E. too.

 

[FutureFemmeDoc]

Irishlaydi, it is my understanding that it doesn't matter which lender you go with. Even though T.H.E. is a not on NYCOM's list of preferred lender, we can still choose T.H.E. Some one please correct me if I am wrong. Based on my calculations, pay-off amount is the lowest with T.H.E. stafford loans. As a result, I intend to stick with them.

Hi! I wish I had known about T.H.E. sooner! I just submitted my forms last week and finally went with MedInvest. It took me a long time and some research to decide... Hope it works out!

Anybody else thinking about housing??? Is it true that at some point NYCOM will send us a website with housing options?? Thanks! 🙂

 

[Peon9985]

Just got my second letter asking for the second deposit heheheh its due april 1st.. Anyhow weird question.. I had filled out those financial aid forms about a month ago and now NYCOM has sent them to me again... I'm wondering if any one here received the same forms twice?

 

[BATiger]

Just got my second letter asking for the second deposit heheheh its due april 1st.. Anyhow weird question.. I had filled out those financial aid forms about a month ago and now NYCOM has sent them to me again... I'm wondering if any one here received the same forms twice?

I just got the same information in the mail, and yes I received the forms twice also. Does anyone know if there is any flexibility with the second deposit? Is there anyway to get even a 2 week extension on it?

 

[djquick83]

For a two week extension, they will probably bump u off and get someone on the wait list who has the cash. 😱 J/K 😉

 

[Peon9985]

Hmm maybe I should try and get an extension.... lol.. Man dealing with this financial aid crap is giving me a headache.. esp when you call that lady there... she just you such attitude.

 

[BATiger]

NYCOM asks for a lot of money up front and I am waiting to hear from another school whose admissions committee meets 3/31. All decisions have to be approved by the dean before they are finalized, so there is no way I will hear by 4/1. $1000 is a lot of money to throw away when you only make $12/hr! 🙂

 

[Peon9985]

Does anyone know if NYCOM will give us PDA's when we start attending? Cause I hear they did. Just wanting to make sure so that I don't go and get one myself.

 

[FutureFemmeDoc]

Does anyone know if NYCOM will give us PDA's when we start attending? Cause I hear they did. Just wanting to make sure so that I don't go and get one myself.

On my interview day, I think the students told us that they are given a PDA after second year but I may be mistaken..

 

[anars28]

Has anyone spoken to the director of admissions at NYCOM? I haven't received an interview and was thinking about going up there to talk to admissions. I just want to make sure I won't be wasting my time if they aren't responsive.

Thanks!

 

[beastmaster]

There is a good chance that I will attend NYCOM this August. If anyone wants to IM me to discuss anything, feel free.

 

[endAIDScom]

I'm going to your school. Let's collaborate.

 

[endAIDScom]

Is it possible to rent a house within 20 minutes drive of campus?
Do people ever rent places and share them with other students at NYCOM?
Or are these just rumors?

 

[djquick83]

Rent an apartment maybe. Rent a house ? Good luck finding other friends to help u pay the mortgage off not including yearly taxes in Nassau County. 😱 Im sure there are 2 family houses that rent out each individual family dwelling. Thats something to look into and Im sure its possible given they havent been already taken by any other NYCOM students or outside ppl.

 

[Dr. Kasper]

HEY ALL -

I am 90% sure I will be attending NYCOM CLASS OF 2009 😉

I also recieved the financial aid package and was quite confused. I called the financial aid office and I thought that lady was abrupt and rude as well.

Anyway I am a bit confused with the financial aid still. I filled out my fafsa and I am in the process of filling out all the forms that need to be sent to back to the school. Choosing a Lender has been crazy!! I think Medinvest seems the best so far.

Does anyone know how much they are borrowing though? In the prelim application (white paper question 8) can someone clarify for me how much are we allowed to borrow? I think its 38,500 Stafford Loans and then what if i need more? Im soo confused!! please help thanks

 

[BATiger]

HEY ALL -

I am 90% sure I will be attending NYCOM CLASS OF 2009 😉

I also recieved the financial aid package and was quite confused. I called the financial aid office and I thought that lady was abrupt and rude as well.

Anyway I am a bit confused with the financial aid still. I filled out my fafsa and I am in the process of filling out all the forms that need to be sent to back to the school. Choosing a Lender has been crazy!! I think Medinvest seems the best so far.

Does anyone know how much they are borrowing though? In the prelim application (white paper question 8) can someone clarify for me how much are we allowed to borrow? I think its 38,500 Stafford Loans and then what if i need more? Im soo confused!! please help thanks

The maximum you can borrow for the Stafford loan is $40,722, so put that in question 8. If you need more, you need to get a private loan. The financial aid lady told me borrowing $40,722 generally leaves you with $19,000 to live on.

 

[stoleyerscrubz]

Isn't the tuition at NYCOM over $30,000?

The maximum you can borrow for the Stafford loan is $40,722, so put that in question 8. If you need more, you need to get a private loan. The financial aid lady told me borrowing $40,722 generally leaves you with $19,000 to live on.

 

[djquick83]

Isn't the tuition at NYCOM over $30,000?

Yea. Its almost $35K the first year. School is a ripoff if u ask me. NO SCHOOL IN THE WORLD IS WORTH $35K a year. Education should be a priveledge to those who want it and are able to handle it. I could understand tuition as being something to help pay for services provided, but $35K for 250 students each class is more than enough to provide for the resources we have there or anywhere else in the world. At those rates, they should give us a place to live, food, a car, an expense account, and free healthcare along with their education.

 

[BATiger]

Sorry for the confusion, what I meant was they generally recommend having approx. $19,000 a year to live on for books, food and rent. You are correct, borrowing the max. Stafford loan only leaves you with $5000, so unless you are living at home I guess we all will be getting private loans in addition to Stafford. Boo.

 

[stoleyerscrubz]

I am applying there this year so I got a little excited reading that. Oh well. Good luck to you all!

Sorry for the confusion, what I meant was they generally recommend having approx. $19,000 a year to live on for books, food and rent. You are correct, borrowing the max. Stafford loan only leaves you with $5000, so unless you are living at home I guess we all will be getting private loans in addition to Stafford. Boo.

 

[Dr. Kasper]

Thank you all for helping me, I will be now just figuring out what lender to choose. What are you guys leaning towards?

Also did you sign the authroization statement granting or denying NYCOM use of any excess funds?? Could someone clarify this as well? I think I am suppose to sign it granting them usage.

thanks

 

[Juniperbee]

I just found out that I was accepted to NYCOM. Can't wait to see everyone in the fall.

 

[endAIDScom]

Hey has anyone gotten the application for the doctor patient continum yet?
If so have you filled it out?

I haven't and I'm starting to get afraid that it was a trick to make me and others pick NYCOM over (otherwise) better schools.

 

[seacatch]

Hey has anyone gotten the application for the doctor patient continum yet?
If so have you filled it out?

I haven't and I'm starting to get afraid that it was a trick to make me and others pick NYCOM over (otherwise) better schools.

I spoke with the director of admissions earlier today. I didn't get the packet either. She said she would send it right out (again?). Anyway, she said we wouldn't know if we get the PBL track until the first week of school (orientation).

 

[tedd1212]

I spoke with the director of admissions earlier today. I didn't get the packet either. She said she would send it right out (again?). Anyway, she said we wouldn't know if we get the PBL track until the first week of school (orientation).

I'm an idiot. what is this dr patient "continum?" i am class of 09. is this something that i should be looking for in the mail? i moved and nycom has been having a bit of a time keeping up with my address. also, have they released anything concerning curriculum modifications for 05-06?
t

 

[Doc2B-Finally]

Any idea what Quality Progress Indicator Exam is? I was reading NYCOM calener for 2008 class and came across it "ACADEMIC CALENDAR 2004-2005
Class of 2008 (1st year)
Orientation ...............................................................................Tuesday, August 24 – Friday, August 27, 2004
......................................................(August 26 – Quality Progress Indicator exam; August 27 – Barbeque)"

May be current NYCOM students can provide some information about it.

 

[Kry]

Any idea what Quality Progress Indicator Exam is? I was reading NYCOM calener for 2008 class and came across it "ACADEMIC CALENDAR 2004-2005
Class of 2008 (1st year)
Orientation ...............................................................................Tuesday, August 24 – Friday, August 27, 2004
......................................................(August 26 – Quality Progress Indicator exam; August 27 – Barbeque)"

May be current NYCOM students can provide some information about it.

I'll paste a direct quote from an email I have regarding the QPI.

This exam is a collaborative venture between NYCOM and several other medical colleges (osteopathic and allopathic) in which all four undergraduate medical classes, interns and residents take a comprehensive exam for the purpose of feedback and self-assessment. It is an important component in NYCOM’s on-going effort to comprehensively assess, assure and enhance the quality of our educational continuum (undergraduate and postgraduate medical education curriculum).

Our objectives for the exam are twofold: 1) provide program evaluation through overall group performance (outcome focused), and 2) provide students, interns, and residents with individual feedback on their systematic knowledge acquisition and progression. As you probably know, the exam does not require study, there is no charge for the exam, you cannot pass or fail, and you will be able to assess your individual progress in learning.

The exam will allow you to compare your performance vis-à-vis your entire class as well as class levels above and below you (other students, interns/residents in our educational continuum). It is intended solely as a means of feedback, without any bearing on graduation or any other official recommendations. You can use the exam to determine the extent of future preparation you may require to enhance your performance on COMLEX exams.

The exam is comprised of 330 items, encompassing all basic and clinical science disciplines. Upon completion of the administration of the exam, arrangements will be made to return your exam booklet to you to facilitate your review of content.

If you have any other questions pertaining to first year don't hesitate in contacting me. Otherwise, I'll see you all during orientation.

Kry
MSS Treasurer
Class of 2008

 

[endAIDScom]

I'm an idiot. what is this dr patient "continum?" i am class of 09. is this something that i should be looking for in the mail? i moved and nycom has been having a bit of a time keeping up with my address. also, have they released anything concerning curriculum modifications for 05-06?
t

DPC is NYCOM's problem based track. 2005 will be the first year it's offered.
They seem to have just decided to go foward with it the week I interviewed there (March 1st), so they may not have told you about it. We were told at our admissions presentation that it would be limited to 40 students
(2 groups of 20) and that there was a seperate application that we would be sent after signing our matriculation agreements.

 

[tedd1212]

DPC is NYCOM's problem based track. 2005 will be the first year it's offered.
They seem to have just decided to go foward with it the week I interviewed there (March 1st), so they may not have told you about it. We were told at our admissions presentation that it would be limited to 40 students
(2 groups of 20) and that there was a seperate application that we would be sent after signing our matriculation agreements.

Thanks for the info. i contacted admissions this morning and the lady was like, "you didn't receive it???? I'll get another one in the mail to you right away." when i asked for some details she simply said that it was quite complex and that the info packet would explain everything...interesting.