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PACtoDOC- Thanks for the info. When you bought your house did you have to do a bunch of repairs? The realtor told me that most of the homes in the area that where for sale in the $80k range needed a remodel?



STAC- If you get a chance to get to Fort Worth and look at some houses, please post what you found out. As I mentioned in an earlier post, a real estate agent laughed when I explained that we wanted within 10 miles of the school for $80k-ish range. But when my wife interview there we looked at a few neighborhoods and didn't think the price of the houses would be outrageous. Anyway if you go shopping before I do, PLEASE post what you found out. I plan to make a weekend trip in a month or so.
 
No, my house had been completely remodelled already at 79K, but more like a cheap apartment style carpeting and paint. We re-did it again and tacked on about 10K to all that. If you were to look in my neighborhood, the average house is about 1200 sqft, and if in move-in condition would sell for about 90K. Lots of houses are for sale and asking much more than they are worth, but that is the trend around here. They start around 110 and sell below 100. 2 doors down on my street there was a house that just sold for 84 when they started at 92K. It was 1000 sqft, 3/1 and pretty much upgraded. There is currently a house next to me that is for sale for 159K, but it has an upstairs that can be rented as a separate apartment with up and down both 2br 1 bth. Like I said, prices are always going up around here and my guess is that if you can find the cash to put in a house, you will make a lot of money when you leave. My buddy who graduated last year bought his house in 98 for 65K and sold it this summer for 140K.
 
Originally posted by PACtoDOC
Someone asked about biochem books.......*laughing my ass off*....don't even worry about it. I never took biochem a day in my life other than the crap you get in a genetics, an AnP course, or bioII. And I have never made anything but an A in any course. These courses are not hard; they are just long and arduous. What kills people is the magnitude of the material (in kilograms!!), not the depth of it.

You can make it all the way through Cell Science and the entire first 2 years pretty much without ever using a book. If you read the powerpoints and go look up what you don't understand, you won't have a problem.

With all due respect to Matt, I have to disagree about the book thing. That's nice that he was able to make the Dean's list without ever purchasing a book--however, I strongly recommend you take such advice with a grain of salt. I was told the same thing, and it was the wrong advice for me. Fortunately, I had the sense to listen to myself and know that we all learn differently. While it is true that you can get a lot from the powerpoints (given that you go to class or at least listen to lecture tapes), I have always learned a lot from reading on my own, then going to class to get reinforcement. Powerpoint presentations are meant to be a summary, and for many, it's just not enough to look at powerpoint. Personally, I learn best by understanding concepts, not by memorizing powerpoint slides. I feel much more cofident on a test when I know I understand the concepts and can reason through whatever they throw at me. More than one of our professors have emphasized that we need to understand concepts, not just memorize factoids. That has been good advice for me so far.

I know you guys are wanting advice...but please understand that we ALL do this differently and that you should be wary of anyone who tries to tell you definitively that their way is the way you should do things to be successful. I have watched classmates of mine fail because they took advice that didn't work for them...like not reading the textbook...

There were plently of science-smart people (not just the artsy literary types like myself) in my class who really benefitted from the biochem review books--it's the one area that can make you feel really dumb really fast if you don't at least have some of the general concepts under your belt.

While it is true that the classes are not "hard"--undergrad was much tougher--you have to understand that Matt was a PA for a number of years. He better be making straight A's. 🙂 The majority of people have no clinical experience and only the science they got in undergrad. We are all working hard--don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Some people get things faster than others--good for them. They are the top 10%. The other 100 people in your class will be getting mostly Bs and still working hard, and that's fine. This is a marathon and not a sprint...so don't make plans now to be top in your class. Just do your best, have a life, and if you excell academically, great. If you do just okay, that's fine too. Your grades in your first two years are only one piece of the puzzle that will get you a good residency. And there are a number of people who will tell you that class rank and grades are the last thing that residency directors look at (and yes, that is firsthand information that I was given by a residency director and several residents).

Finally, there is a lot of intellectual d*ck-measuring that goes on in medical school. People telling you how easy it is to make straight A's, how they never study and never buy books yaddah yaddah. You have to do what works for you and not get intimidated or think you are stupid if you actually BUY your physiology book, clinical medicine book, and anatomy book...then actually go home and read it.

I didn't mean to write so much. Wow. I guess I just feel strongly about this.

Which reminds me, I have some reading to do...🙂
 
Wow,

Does anyone else think I just got my ass handed to me in a frying pan full of Tofu? SJ obviously feels rather strongly about this topic. I have to admit that she probably is more qualified to tell you what you need to study to make it as an everyday medical student. My case is a bit different. But of all my friends, I don't know one who uses books regularly, because there is just too little time. As I said, I use them as an adjunct only. I also would have to agree with SJ that grades are probably about 4th most important when looking for a residency, behind boards 1st, LOR's 2nd, and interview 3rd. But sadly enough, grades reflect board scores and it is rare to see someone be mediocre and blow the boards away. Thus, number one on your residency list is your board score! And SJ, its not fair to say that I make A's because I am a PA. I went to PA school in 95 when penicillin was still the drug of choice for many ailments, and medical knowledge has been proven to turnover every 18 months. And if your theory on my A's was correct, you would expect all PA's to be making A's. But that is definitely not happening. I study very hard and my performance is reflective of that effort, so I won't allow you to take that away from me 😉 Besides, this topic was about the biochem review book and you and I have made this a much more tangential talk. As a PA I got no more biochem than any of you newbies, and I found the biochem here very Kindergarten level. I do remember one thing that I loved for biochem though, and that was the biochem MAP that folds out of the middle of Biochem made Ridiculously Simple. The book sucked, but the map was awesome. It showed how all pathways intertwined and it had the intermediates and enzymes as well. It was all you needed in addition to powerpoints. But if you can take home one thing from this little conversation, realize that no two students study the same. What works for one may not work for you. Trust your big buddies cautiously and I promise you will figure out what works for you soon after the first exam. Thanks SJ for taking the skin off my bootie and grafting it to my mouth!! Now I'll have to find another hole to blabber out of.
 
What EVER! 🙂 Like I said, we all work hard. I do think that having clinical experience is a huge plus though.

I just thought I'd give them some perspective from the "average" side....so they don't think we are all boy geniuses like you! 😉
 
I have a question for any TCOM student. When did you find out IF you where getting student loans? My wife and I are having our taxes done on Feb. 27th. We plan to fill out all the paperwork for student loans and get them turned in that weekend. But I would like to know when we might find out if she was approved for the loans. And for that matter it will help us decide which house we will be able to afford as well. I sure don't want to buy a house thinking we will get some money to help pay the house payment, and then get turned down for the loans.
 
Hey Carguy,

Worry no longer, because everyone including Donald Trump is eligible for loans the first year. After they subtract your tuition and fees, you will be left with loans in the amount of 18K or so. The key is, you may have very little of this subsidized the first year, meaning the interest starts accruing the day you borrow it. But everyone can take out the maxiumum amount, and most do.

Matt
 
i'd have to admit with sophiejane. there are a lot of closet gunners in our class, many who tell me weekend after weekend that they haven't even touched the material yet. my advice to you is to use common sense when deciding about your our education and future.
 
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A real good biochem book is biochemistry by Lippincott. Its rated one of the best review books by First Aid. I got and i used it and it was concise, and a perfect supplement to use while taking biochem. However, im not a student at tcom, but this book is nationally rated the highest by med students from all over

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Omar
 
How many of yall shadowed a student at TCOM? TCOM offers this opportunity, but I'm not sure actually how many people them up.

Thanks,
Captain Monkey
 
I just want to thank all of y'all who have taken the time to write about your experiences and from your hearts. For the three of us that read this thread and benefit from it, I am really happy that you all are willing to share your thoughts. We are so excited about going to TCOM and wanting everything to happen this instant! We will all have to figure what works best but I am glad for the direction.
Man...keep talkin to us!!! Every bit helps calm our fears and gets us geared for the next step in our lives! I look forward to meeting you guys soon and thanks for all of the house advice! RC👍 👍 👍
 
Originally posted by STAC
I just want to thank all of y'all who have taken the time to write about your experiences and from your hearts. For the three of us that read this thread and benefit from it, I am really happy that you all are willing to share your thoughts. We are so excited about going to TCOM and wanting everything to happen this instant! We will all have to figure what works best but I am glad for the direction.
Man...keep talkin to us!!! Every bit helps calm our fears and gets us geared for the next step in our lives! I look forward to meeting you guys soon and thanks for all of the house advice! RC👍 👍 👍

I agree!! THANKS!!👍
 
It seems that I have missed a lot here the past day or so. I think I'm going to heed the advice to chill a bit.

HOWEVER, one more question.

During the first year, how often (or even at all) did any of you scrub in to observe surgery. I am really REALLY overzealous about this whole thing, and seeing as how I am interested in ortho (right now) I want to be able to observe as much as possible as early as possible.
 
I don't think you are going to have time to observe any surgery in your first year, and second year appears to be worse than the first. The docs here already have 3rd and 4th year students in their ORs, so I don't know how many would want a first year hanging around as well. But I could be wrong about that.

Don't worry, you will get your fill of the OR if you want to do surgery. Besides, the best way to spend your time if you want to do surgery is studying anatomy (and everything else) and buffing up your resume like a good little gunner 🙂 . Just watch the Discovery Channel for now and cool it! I promise your zealousness will be dampened a bit in no time once you get here--you will be glad for your time off and will need it.
 
Amen to that SJ!
 
Okay I still have another 🙂 question !

Since my wife and I can't sell our house that we live in now, until after May 15th, and we have to be in Ft. Worth by July 26th. That doesn't leave much time to get our house sold in Lubbock, a house bought in Ft. Worth, fix it up a little bit, and unpacked. I was wondering what a good 2 bedroom apartment rents for near the school. We prefer not go the apartment way, but we understand that time is going to be a huge factor. So just to calm my nerves a little please let me know what a decent apartment rents for. THANKS AGAIN!!
 
I bet you can find out online. I live in a one bedroom garage apt about 10 minutes from school, so I'm not sure about places closer in. Check the zipcode 76106 and try apartmentfinders.com or something similar. I think the Ft. Worth Star-Telegram is also online and they'd have apts for rent in the classifieds.
 
sophiejane- Thanks for the info!


I am getting a little nervous now. Tomorrow I am going to turn in my two week notice at work :scared: so I can get the house ready to sell. Also that will give my wife and I time to make a trip to Fort Worth over spring break to look at a few houses!! I almost feel like I am doing this to early. But without turning in my notice now, my wife and I will not be able to look at housing until late May. Which is when we hope to close on our house we live in now. And that would not give us time to find something in Fort Worth to move into. And I sure don't want to be homeless!:wow: July will be here before you know it.
 
Hello!

Does anyone know when TCOM asks you to send in a deposit?

Also, does TCOM give any scholarships? I heard that out of state tuition is waived if you get a $1000 scholarship from the school.

😕
 
They never asked me for a deposit back in 2002. I don't think they do that. And for the couple looking for an apartment, you might even just consider a small rent house or duplex right off campus. They go for between 600 and 900 bucks a month usually. Good luck.

Matt
 
Is there a weekly or monthly magazine that has listing of real estate and/or rental properties in the Fort Worth area?
 
Not that I know of. Unfortunately the best way to find a house around here is to drive the streets, call the numbers on the signs, and spend an entire weekend if not multiple weekends doing so. There are tons of houses for sale and rent but anything priced reasonably goes very fast. Many are priced way too high but people try to push the envelope here in the historical district. Anything that is completely renovated around campus can expect to go for 100-150 dollars per square foot. But the bottom line is that if you can string together the funds to buy the house, you will probably be able to pay off a quarter of your loans upon graduation due to the profit you will make. And don't forget, you need to get approved for a loan now on your old salary because they will not give you a loan based solely on your liklihood of having a working spouse, or on your student loans as income.
 
Thanks.

I have already talked to Countywide and we are doing the paperwork to get pre-approved for a house before I leave my job here in Lubbock. We are planning to come down in a couple of weeks and spending most of the week looking for a house. We hope to find something within about 5 miles of the school. Could you please tell me what some of the housing districts are called in the area? I know back when my wife interviewed at TCOM we saw a couple of pretty nice houses back toward the east(?) by the police station off of Camp Bowie. Do you happen to know that area? We sure don't want to end up in the ghetto! 😀 I recall it was only about 2-3 miles from the school.


Thanks for the info/help!
 
Your best bet is to stick to Arlington Heights which is 85% out of your price range, but the other 15% are in your price range but can be found if you look hard. Arlington Heights is basically everything on the south side of Camp Bowie running west from the school, between Montgomery on the eastern boundary and going as far west as where Camp Bowie crosses I30. You can also look south of I30 between Clover and Hulen, where there are some cheaper and nice houses as well. If you let me know when you guys are coming I can lend you my Mapsco book, and maybe take you on a short driving tour to get you started. There are a few pockets of houses a little further out that are probably a bit cheaper. I love being 3/4 of a mile from school though and it has made life so easy. I would not trade that for a 10K savings over 4 years I can swear.
 
Hey yall, I will also be attending TCOM next year! 😀 I might be coming up to Ft. Worth with a friend during a weekend that I have off to just check out the city and maybe meet with some more students if they have time. If there is anyone that might want to help me find a nice apartment while I am up there let me know. Also, if there are any future TCOMers that currently live in the San Antonio area let me know. It would be cool to meet some of my future classmates. Later,
Ryan👍
 
You guys should be getting information about Spring Fling pretty soon (cheesy name but lots of good information). I think it's at the end of March. You get a bus tour of the local neighborhoods among other exciting events, and you will have lots of your questions answered, and get a chance to meet some of your classmates.
 
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