Ohio requires 5 years after residency

[mx_599]

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Just thought I might warn some of you that the DO school in Ohio requires a 4 or 5 year commitment for out of staters. I didn't realize this before AACOMAS or I wouldn't have bothered. Plus tuition is more for out of state I think.

Nothing at all against Ohio's program 🙂 ....just thought some of you might like to know.

 

[raDiOnut]

Just thought I might warn some of you that the DO school in Ohio requires a 4 or 5 year commitment for out of staters. I didn't realize this before AACOMAS or I wouldn't have bothered. Plus tuition is more for out of state I think.

Nothing at all against Ohio's program 🙂 ....just thought some of you might like to know.

Unfortunately, I found that out last year AFTER I paid $$$ for my primaries

raDiOnut

 

[Monty Python]

Just thought I might warn some of you that the DO school in Ohio requires a 4 or 5 year commitment for out of staters. I didn't realize this before AACOMAS or I wouldn't have bothered. Plus tuition is more for out of state I think.

Nothing at all against Ohio's program 🙂 ....just thought some of you might like to know.

I'm not a lawyer, but I would think that could be successfully challenged in court. Plus, what if you have a military scholarship to med school, with an 8 year active duty payback after graduation. The military's going to assign you where they need you, not where Ohio says.

 

[FutureDocDO]

I'm not a lawyer, but I would think that could be successfully challenged in court. Plus, what if you have a military scholarship to med school, with an 8 year active duty payback after graduation. The military's going to assign you where they need you, not where Ohio says.

I don't think so. If you signed the contract you are liable and no military could get you out of it. The Supreme Court will ultimately have to decide if the military decides to step in. OU-COM isn't dumb, I'm sure they had legal advice when drafting that contract.

Anyway, the contract is for 5 years. Tuition is higher only for the first year for out of state students. Out of stater can "apply" to be a resident of Ohio and at which point will pay the in state tuition.

 

[Shinken]

There are previous threads discussing this subject, so you might want to do a search to get more info on this.

I just wanted to add that if you go to OU-COM as an out of stater, if after you graduate you decide to do an osteopathic residency at one of Ohio's CORE hospitals, the years you spend there count towards your 5 year committment. If you complete a 3 year primary care residency at the CORE, each residency year counts as 1.5 years towards your committment so you'll be done after residency. Non-primary care counts 1 for 1, and you can buy out of the remainder of your contract (in other words, you can do a 4 year non-primary care residency at the CORE and buy out the remaining 1 year of your committment). Does that make sense?

 

[Monty Python]

I don't think so. If you signed the contract you are liable and no military could get you out of it. The Supreme Court will ultimately have to decide if the military decides to step in. OU-COM isn't dumb, I'm sure they had legal advice when drafting that contract.

Anyway, the contract is for 5 years. Tuition is higher only for the first year for out of state students. Out of stater can "apply" to be a resident of Ohio and at which point will pay the in state tuition.

I would respectfully disagree on two points:

1. the needs and laws of the federal gov't (ie, the military) always take precedence over the needs and laws of the state gov't whenever there is a conflict of interest or conflict of contract law. The military scholarship requires signing a Defense Department contract, which would supercede Ohio's contract if push came to shove.

Separate and apart from conflict in contract law is the federal law specifically dealing with interactions between military members and local civilian jurisdictions. Military requirement from the med school scholarship would supercede whatever residency requirement Ohio might have mandated.

I've been in the reserves 16 years and I'm the ombudsman for my unit on issues such as this.

2. the Supreme Court only hears cases where there is a question of Constitutionality - they don't rule simply on the "rightness/wrongness" of a particular law - only that it does or doesn't violate the Constitution and would therefore have to be remanded back to local court for re-trial, or not.

 

[FutureDocDO]

I would respectfully disagree on two points:

1. the needs and laws of the federal gov't (ie, the military) always take precedence over the needs and laws of the state gov't whenever there is a conflict of interest or conflict of contract law. The military scholarship requires signing a Defense Department contract, which would supercede Ohio's contract if push came to shove.

Separate and apart from conflict in contract law is the federal law specifically dealing with interactions between military members and local civilian jurisdictions. Military requirement from the med school scholarship would supercede whatever residency requirement Ohio might have mandated.

I've been in the reserves 16 years and I'm the ombudsman for my unit on issues such as this.

2. the Supreme Court only hears cases where there is a question of Constitutionality - they don't rule simply on the "rightness/wrongness" of a particular law - only that it does or doesn't violate the Constitution and would therefore have to be remanded back to local court for re-trial, or not.

Good to know. I was just guessing as I'm not in the military nor am I a lawyer.

 

[FutureDocDO]

There are previous threads discussing this subject, so you might want to do a search to get more info on this.

I just wanted to add that if you go to OU-COM as an out of stater, if after you graduate you decide to do an osteopathic residency at one of Ohio's CORE hospitals, the years you spend there count towards your 5 year committment. If you complete a 3 year primary care residency at the CORE, each residency year counts as 1.5 years towards your committment so you'll be done after residency. Non-primary care counts 1 for 1, and you can buy out of the remainder of your contract (in other words, you can do a 4 year non-primary care residency at the CORE and buy out the remaining 1 year of your committment). Does that make sense?

Hey, thanks for the info. This is certainly good news!

 

[mx_599]

Unfortunately, I found that out last year AFTER I paid $$$ for my primaries

raDiOnut

Oh okay...I thought I might have been the only one to not investigate it better prior to AACOMAS submission. It is not that big a deal...but oh well.

 

[mx_599]

I'm not a lawyer, but I would think that could be successfully challenged in court. Plus, what if you have a military scholarship to med school, with an 8 year active duty payback after graduation. The military's going to assign you where they need you, not where Ohio says.

Then you get to come back to Ohio and serve your time when your done with the military!!

A contract is a contract. 😀 You'll be like 40-something when you can finally live where you want.

 

[VUMD2be]

its a huge crock of sh_t to confine someone to practice in a state and then make them pay higher out-of-state tuition... even if it is just for one year.

👎

 

[A1cfox21]

Hey everyone. Just wanted to add a bit about the military scholarship. If you get a HPSP scholarship to OU-COM as an out of state student, why would you declare Ohio residency after the first year? The military will pay full out of state tuition for every year. There's no advantage there. Plus, if you try for a 3 yr scholarship, you'd have to get it all done before you'd be eligible for declaring residency. Just something to think about.