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[deleted547339]

Yup - a bunch of white people mad about a pretty innocuous tweet. Kind of... exhausting?

How is a person in a place of authority tasked with training future ER doctor making a racist comment innocuous?

I don’t understand how this is even up for discussion. It’s black and white. I hate to keep beating the same drum, but I dare you to go tweet “ugh, blacks exhaust me. Lolz”

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[GeneralVeers]

How is a person in a place of authority tasked with training future ER doctor making a racist comment innocuous?

I don’t understand how this is even up for discussion. It’s black and white. I hate to keep beating the same drum, but I dare you to go tweet “ugh, blacks exhaust me. Lolz”

It's innocuous because it's against white people. That's the RACIST double standard we have now.

 

[Birdstrike]

In one of the articles about Dr. Choo and her tweet, it said she was scheduled to speak at ACEP in October. I checked the speaking schedule and she’s not on it. Was that an error and she was never scheduled to speak?

Or was she removed from the speaking schedule?

Does anyone know?

 

[deleted497653]

In one of the articles about Dr. Choo and her tweet, it said she was scheduled to speak at ACEP in October. I checked the speaking schedule and she’s not on it. Was that an error and she was never scheduled to speak?

Or was she removed from the speaking schedule?

Does anyone know?

She’s not on the printed bulletin.

Her tweet was negative and mean spirited. It certainly did not seem like her aim was to change or improve race relations.

As for Dr Ma. It seems he relocated to Ohio state. They used the same blurb from his exit from Oregon as a bio at Ohio. Kudos for killing two birds for one stone...can’t find this link anywhere....

Edited to clarify

 

[enalli]

Everything these days is about "tolerance" or "inclusion". Exceptions are if you are white, male, or voted for the wrong political party. Then you must be shunned and your opinions invalidated. Oregon sounds like a hellhole.

You forget “straight & cis-gender.”

You’re welcome.

Sorry to crash your pity party, but just wanted to remind you two that:
- We currently have a Conservative president (as we have had for 24 of the last 40 years)
- The Supreme Court is now solidly Conservative for the foreseeable future (and has leaned Conservative for 40+ years)
- The Senate has had a conservative majority for the past 3 years (and for 22 of the last 40 years)
- The Conservatives had the House only 2 years ago (as they did for 20 of the last 40 years)
- Conservatives have single-party control of 30 state legislatures
- Gerrymandering just got the A-OK from the Supreme Court, so expect Conservative majorities to increase, or at the very least, remain the same

So forgive me if I don't buy into the idea that conservatives are oh-so-oppressed in present-day America.

(1980 chosen as a starting point for comparisons because Reagan ushered in the modern Conservative movement)

 

[EctopicFetus]

No one wants a pity party for the cis white etc etc. Choo is a poor mans troll with that post. Its cool. IDGAF. she is a no one to me. I find people getting all hot and bothered sad. her pathetic attempt at virtue signaling and her SJW work may fulfill her life. Who cares. EM is roughly half and half on the political scale.

Grouping anyone by race and gender and making sweeping generalizations is racist. I treat everyone with the same level of respect. the Choo-meister should learn the same.

 

[BoardEligibleEventually]

I don't understand how someone can be racist. Like, it's 2019. Why would you choose to hate an entire group of people, just because of the way they all behave?

Levity aside, I stopped following Esther Choo on twitter a month or so ago - really felt like she was going off the deep end with some of her content and it was, ironically, exhausting to read.

 

[deleted547339]

Sorry to crash your pity party, but just wanted to remind you two that:
- We currently have a Conservative president (as we have had for 24 of the last 40 years)
- The Supreme Court is now solidly Conservative for the foreseeable future (and has leaned Conservative for 40+ years)
- The Senate has had a conservative majority for the past 3 years (and for 22 of the last 40 years)
- The Conservatives had the House only 2 years ago (as they did for 20 of the last 40 years)
- Conservatives have single-party control of 30 state legislatures
- Gerrymandering just got the A-OK from the Supreme Court, so expect Conservative majorities to increase, or at the very least, remain the same

So forgive me if I don't buy into the idea that conservatives are oh-so-oppressed in present-day America.

(1980 chosen as a starting point for comparisons because Reagan ushered in the modern Conservative movement)

First off, you are entirely misinterpreting the Supreme Court ruling. The Supreme Court didn’t approve gerrymandering - they said they do not have the authority to rule on it and that it’s a state’s authority to decide. By ruling on this otherwise, they would have essentially been saying that it’s the court’s job to decide on all district boundaries which would be a wild overreach. They did not condone Gerrymandering in any way, shape or form.

Secondly, the political US govt may be slightly right leaning currently, but the vast majority of entertainers, news outlets, academics, etc are very left leaning.

No one is asking for a pity party. But the cultural left has been actively trying to shift the frame of the conversation such that those that are socially conservatives are viewed as bigots instead of respectable people with informed but opposing views. I don't want this to become a debate on abortion, but the conversation has changed from 1) we all think abortion is bad and we would like to limit it, but we think it’s a necessary evil that should be legal to 2) you are a SOB who hates women if you don’t think any woman should be allowed to have an abortion at any time and you have to pay for it with you tax dollars. Anything less and you’re evil. Look at what Biden has said in the past and the fact that he has been supportive of the Hyde amendment until only a few weeks ago.

Again, my point isn’t to derail the thread, it’s simply to address the point that a lot of this stuff depends on how you frame it. Those with different agendas can frame conversations differently. Those that believe in race politics and intersectionality believe that what Dr. Choo said is fine because they believe that white people get anything they deserve. If you actually believe in equality and diversity, you have to call this out as racist and condemn it. What she said is racist. She made a pejorative statement about an entire people group, then doubled down. It is literally the definition of racist. She said it. It’s done. I’m not going to lose any sleep over it, but I am ashamed that an academic EP said it. It makes us all look bad. You can’t do S like this. The fact that OHSU did nothing about it is a black mark on the institution in my opinion.

 

[deleted480308]

Sorry to crash your pity party, but just wanted to remind you two that:
- We currently have a Conservative president (as we have had for 24 of the last 40 years)
- The Supreme Court is now solidly Conservative for the foreseeable future (and has leaned Conservative for 40+ years)
- The Senate has had a conservative majority for the past 3 years (and for 22 of the last 40 years)
- The Conservatives had the House only 2 years ago (as they did for 20 of the last 40 years)
- Conservatives have single-party control of 30 state legislatures
- Gerrymandering just got the A-OK from the Supreme Court, so expect Conservative majorities to increase, or at the very least, remain the same

So forgive me if I don't buy into the idea that conservatives are oh-so-oppressed in present-day America.

(1980 chosen as a starting point for comparisons because Reagan ushered in the modern Conservative movement)

You exhibit little understanding of the gerrymandering decision.

That was a jurisdictional issue, not a “we love gerrymandering” decision and inappropriate district boundaries are in no way restricted to conservatives

I’ll also note govt has recently sued nuns and amish people for birth control pills, tried to crush a baker over a cake, and is seriously talking about ditching the hyde amendment so conservatives have a few valid complaints

 

[Listen2Savage]

First off, you are entirely misinterpreting the Supreme Court ruling. The Supreme Court didn’t approve gerrymandering - they said they do not have the authority to rule on it and that it’s a state’s authority to decide. By ruling on this otherwise, they would have essentially been saying that it’s the court’s job to decide on all district boundaries which would be a wild overreach. They did not condone Gerrymandering in any way, shape or form.

Secondly, the political US govt may be slightly right leaning currently, but the vast majority of entertainers, news outlets, academics, etc are very left leaning.

No one is asking for a pity party. But the cultural left has been actively trying to shift the frame of the conversation such that those that are socially conservatives are viewed as bigots instead of respectable people with informed but opposing views. I don't want this to become a debate on abortion, but the conversation has changed from 1) we all think abortion is bad and we would like to limit it, but we think it’s a necessary evil that should be legal to 2) you are a SOB who hates women if you don’t think any woman should be allowed to have an abortion at any time and you have to pay for it with you tax dollars. Anything less and you’re evil. Look at what Biden has said in the past and the fact that he has been supportive of the Hyde amendment until only a few weeks ago.

Again, my point isn’t to derail the thread, it’s simply to address the point that a lot of this stuff depends on how you frame it. Those with different agendas can frame conversations differently. Those that believe in race politics and intersectionality believe that what Dr. Choo said is fine because they believe that white people get anything they deserve. If you actually believe in equality and diversity, you have to call this out as racist and condemn it. What she said is racist. She made a pejorative statement about an entire people group, then doubled down. It is literally the definition of racist. She said it. It’s done. I’m not going to lose any sleep over it, but I am ashamed that an academic EP said it. It makes us all look bad. You can’t do S like this. The fact that OHSU did nothing about it is a black mark on the institution in my opinion.

 

[enalli]

You exhibit little understanding of the gerrymandering decision.

That was a jurisdictional issue, not a “we love gerrymandering” decision and inappropriate district boundaries are in no way restricted to conservatives

I’ll also note govt has recently sued nuns and amish people for birth control pills, tried to crush a baker over a cake, and is seriously talking about ditching the hyde amendment so conservatives have a few valid complaints

You exhibit little understanding of cause and effect.

It doesn't matter that the Chief Justice said gerrymandering is "incompatible with democratic principles"; the fact that the court decided not to address it, will lead to more, not less, gerrymandering.

 

[Listen2Savage]

You exhibit little understanding of cause and effect.

It doesn't matter that the Chief Justice said gerrymandering is "incompatible with democratic principles"; the fact that the court decided not to address it, will lead to more, not less, gerrymandering.

As was already explained to you, this is outside the purview of the court.

But I'm sure you're cool with judicial activism

 

[jw3600]

Sorry to crash your pity party, but just wanted to remind you two that:
- We currently have a Conservative president (as we have had for 24 of the last 40 years)
- The Supreme Court is now solidly Conservative for the foreseeable future (and has leaned Conservative for 40+ years)
- The Senate has had a conservative majority for the past 3 years (and for 22 of the last 40 years)
- The Conservatives had the House only 2 years ago (as they did for 20 of the last 40 years)
- Conservatives have single-party control of 30 state legislatures
- Gerrymandering just got the A-OK from the Supreme Court, so expect Conservative majorities to increase, or at the very least, remain the same

So forgive me if I don't buy into the idea that conservatives are oh-so-oppressed in present-day America.

(1980 chosen as a starting point for comparisons because Reagan ushered in the modern Conservative movement)

Wow what a misguided post.
I love how you are you so simple minded that you have immediately grouped everyone who thinks Choo's tweet as inappropriate as "conservative."
And you have also concluded that having a "conservative" president/court/senate means somehow every white male is ecstatic with all of their decisions.
That is some of the most disingenuous crap I have ever seen.
People like you (along with people who say things like "You can't be racist to white people") are the reason I do not consider myself a "liberal" anymore.
For the most part all of my sociopolitical views are left leaning but my god do I not want to be associated with people like you.

 

[enalli]

As was already explained to you, this is outside the purview of the court.

But I'm sure you're cool with judicial activism

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As was already explained to you, this will lead to more gerrymandering.

But I'm sure you're cool with gerrymandering.

 

[Listen2Savage]

As was already explained to you, this will lead to more gerrymandering.

But I'm sure you're cool with gerrymandering.

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[enalli]

Wow what a misguided post.
I love how you are you so simple minded that you have immediately grouped everyone who thinks Choo's tweet as inappropriate as "conservative."
And you have also concluded that having a "conservative" president/court/senate means somehow every white male is ecstatic with all of their decisions.
That is some of the most disingenuous crap I have ever seen.
People like you (along with people who say things like "You can't be racist to white people") are the reason I do not consider myself a "liberal" anymore.
For the most part all of my sociopolitical views are left leaning but my god do I not want to be associated with people like you.

I never commented to Choo's post.

For what it's worth, I disagree with Choo's tweet. I don't consider myself a Conservative. Sorry to shatter the straw-man you built of me in your mind.

 

[deleted480308]

You exhibit little understanding of cause and effect.

It doesn't matter that the Chief Justice said gerrymandering is "incompatible with democratic principles"; the fact that the court decided not to address it, will lead to more, not less, gerrymandering.

It’s a jurisdictional question. I’m sorry the nuances of that escape you

 

[enalli]

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[enalli]

It’s a jurisdictional question. I’m sorry the nuances of that escape you

It doesn't. I'm not sure why you think it's a difficult thing to understand. The jurisdictional aspect is how it has been reported from the start, and is obvious in what is probably the best summary of Roberts' point from his own decision:

"But the fact that such gerrymandering is ‘incompatible with democratic principles’ does not mean that the solution lies with the federal judiciary. We conclude that partisan gerrymandering claims present political questions beyond the reach of the federal courts."

Seems pretty clear to me.

I think the issue that you are thinking "liberals are so dumb they could never understand the nuances of our judicial system." But that was never the point I was making. If you look at my original post, I mentioned the ruling in conjunction with the fact that 30 state legislatures are fully controlled by Conservatives (as opposed to 14 by Liberals). The result of this decision is that, if Gerrymandering continues as it has, the Conservative majority in American government is very safe.

I'm sorry if the nuances of that escape you.

 

[deleted547339]

It doesn't. I'm not sure why you think it's a difficult thing to understand. The jurisdictional aspect is how it has been reported from the start, and is obvious in what is probably the best summary of Roberts' point from his own decision:

"But the fact that such gerrymandering is ‘incompatible with democratic principles’ does not mean that the solution lies with the federal judiciary. We conclude that partisan gerrymandering claims present political questions beyond the reach of the federal courts."

Seems pretty clear to me.

I think the issue that you are thinking "liberals are so dumb they could never understand the nuances of our judicial system." But that was never the point I was making. If you look at my original post, I mentioned the ruling in conjunction with the fact that 30 state legislatures are fully controlled by Conservatives (as opposed to 14 by Liberals). The result of this decision is that, if Gerrymandering continues as it has, the Conservative majority in American government is very safe.

I'm sorry if the nuances of that escape you.

I don’t know why we’re trying to argue with you, you have you’re ideas and you’re bending the facts to support you. All of the demographics in the country suggest we’re moving left, and fast.

Regardless, let’s get back to the topic of the thread.

 

[deleted547339]

- Gerrymandering just got the A-OK from the Supreme Court,

the fact that the court decided not to address it

I'm sorry if the nuances of that escape you.

 

[deleted480308]

It doesn't. I'm not sure why you think it's a difficult thing to understand. The jurisdictional aspect is how it has been reported from the start, and is obvious in what is probably the best summary of Roberts' point from his own decision:

"But the fact that such gerrymandering is ‘incompatible with democratic principles’ does not mean that the solution lies with the federal judiciary. We conclude that partisan gerrymandering claims present political questions beyond the reach of the federal courts."

Seems pretty clear to me.

I think the issue that you are thinking "liberals are so dumb they could never understand the nuances of our judicial system." But that was never the point I was making. If you look at my original post, I mentioned the ruling in conjunction with the fact that 30 state legislatures are fully controlled by Conservatives (as opposed to 14 by Liberals). The result of this decision is that, if Gerrymandering continues as it has, the Conservative majority in American government is very safe.

I'm sorry if the nuances of that escape you.

I’m not saying liberals are too dumb to understand nuance.

I’m saying you don’t understand nuance if you claim scotus just gave “the a-ok” to gerrymandering

 

[enalli]

I’m not saying liberals are too dumb to understand nuance.

I’m saying you don’t understand nuance if you claim scotus just gave “the a-ok” to gerrymandering

At this point we're just arguing semantics.

"The Supreme Court's ruling to stay out of redistricting has given North Carolina and Maryland (and likely other states) the A-OK to continue with Gerrymandering."

Is that more palatable to you? This is precisely what I meant and it doesn't change my central point (that the Conservative majority in American government is safe), but I'm happy to spell it out.

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

Which party controls the House, remind me?

Oh, and explain how district lines effect Senators. And maybe the electoral college while you're at it?

 

[enalli]

I don’t know why we’re trying to argue with you, you have you’re ideas and you’re bending the facts to support you. All of the demographics in the country suggest we’re moving left, and fast.

Regardless, let’s get back to the topic of the thread.

I'd be happy to clarify any facts that you think I "bent." I've already spent a lot of time doing so above.

I agree with you that the demographic shifts in the country suggest we're moving left. I'm not sure how to quantify how fast. I would put it to you that our demographics shifting left do not necessarily mean our government is shifting left at this moment. And if it is, nowhere near as fast as the demographic shifts would suggest.

And just because it appears I need to make everything explicit here: the comment above makes no value statement on the meaning of being a Republic, the constitutional basis for the Electoral College, or the separation of powers; but if any of you feel the need to explain those to me, knock yourselves out.

 

[enalli]

Which party controls the House, remind me?

Addressed above:

- The Conservatives had the House only 2 years ago (as they did for 20 of the last 40 years)

Oh, and explain how district lines effect Senators. And maybe the electoral college while you're at it?

They don't.

Happy to answer any other questions you may have.

 

[Rivendell311]

I’ll look at the printed catalog they sent. I don’t remember seeing names on it though.

Her tweet was negative and mean spirited. It certainly did not seem like her aim was to change or improve race relations.

As for Dr Ma. It seems he relocated to Ohio state. They used the same blurb from his exit from Oregon as a bio at Ohio. Kudos for killing two birds for one stone.

where in ohio?

 

[jojo58]

No. OHSU has no reputation as a malignant program.

Dr. Choo is an incredible doc, and a tour de force in gender dynamics in the workplace, health care specifically. She has strong opinions - she is neither dumb, nor racist. Some of the responses in this thread serve as examples of her point.

What she said is literally racist. If a White doc said the same thing about blacks, latinos, whatever ethnicity then he be stripped of his license, humiliated publicly, and essentially his life would be over. End of discussion.

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

Addressed above:





They don't.

Happy to answer any other questions you may have.

Huh, so despite crazy gerrymandering, the democrats control the house. And have for 50% of the last 40 years.

I also don't see this as carte blanche for everyone to gerrymander. Case in point: Pennsylvania.

 

[deleted547339]

What she said is literally racist. If a White doc said the same thing about blacks, latinos, whatever ethnicity then he be stripped of his license, humiliated publicly, and essentially his life would be over. End of discussion.

Yea. I really find ohsu’s response shocking.

 

[Apollyon]

As for Dr Ma. It seems he relocated to Ohio state. They used the same blurb from his exit from Oregon as a bio at Ohio. Kudos for killing two birds for one stone.

I don't find anything - at all - at Ohio State for John Ma. Can you provide a link/source? Likewise, at Oregon's website, at OHSU.edu, it just says he's staying on as faculty, after stepping down from chair.

 

[DeadCactus]

And yet here we are....

You ever listened to David Newman’s lecture on how our job as ER docs is to take care of those that can’t take care of themselves? It’s moving.

Omg. You went there.

I remember when that story broke on SDN. The white male rapist who ejaculated on drugged women got more of a "wait guys, let's hear him out" treatment than this minority woman who had the audacity to make a factual statement that wasn't phrased delicately enough for the gentle sensitivities of the ruling class. It's funny what prompts the pitchforks and torches to come out.

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

I remember when that story broke on SDN. The white male rapist who ejaculated on drugged women got more of a "wait guys, let's hear him out" treatment than this minority woman who had the audacity to make a factual statement that wasn't phrased delicately enough for the gentle sensitivities of the ruling class. It's funny what prompts the pitchforks and torches to come out.

Umm, what waiting did you need when the statement in question came directly from her own Twitter account.

I'm quite certain that is Newman had come out and said "yep, I did that" there would have been no waiting before judgement.

 

[BoardEligibleEventually]

Some people appear triggered. I'm not pointing any fingers. I'm just going to sit here, with the popcorn - watching intently.

 

[deleted480308]

I remember when that story broke on SDN. The white male rapist who ejaculated on drugged women got more of a "wait guys, let's hear him out" treatment than this minority woman who had the audacity to make a factual statement that wasn't phrased delicately enough for the gentle sensitivities of the ruling class. It's funny what prompts the pitchforks and torches to come out.

Factual? So an entire race is specifically exhausting?

 

[deleted859535]

God, this thread got stupid.

 

[DeadCactus]

Umm, what waiting did you need when the statement in question came directly from her own Twitter account.

Disregarding someone as racist and unfit for their professional position as has been blatantly done here is not a measured or proportional response to a single tweet making a factual statement that offended the overly sensitive butterflies. Amazing how quickly some of you rally behind the call for equality when the slightest disadvantage has been shown to the majority class but remain silent when minorities or women continue to be systematically marginalized and disadvantaged.

And yes, I will 100% concede a white male making this statement about a minority group would raise a ****storm. That's what happens when you're in a position of privilege and power: you look like an ass when you act negatively to those lacking your advantages. That's why the response to this is ridiculous and embarrassing. People are rolling around babbling and howling like a soccer player over the slightest offence but don't have anything but excuses or justifications when the tables are turned.

Factual? So an entire race is specifically exhausting?

"White people can be exhausting."
Q: Can white people be exhausting?
A: Yes.

Sounds like a fact if you're not looking for an excuse to fly the great banner of the poor oppressed socioeconomically empowered majority.

 

[deleted547339]

I remember when that story broke on SDN. The white male rapist who ejaculated on drugged women got more of a "wait guys, let's hear him out" treatment than this minority woman who had the audacity to make a factual statement that wasn't phrased delicately enough for the gentle sensitivities of the ruling class. It's funny what prompts the pitchforks and torches to come out.

There’s a huge difference. One was an accusation without proof. The other happened in plain site.

 

[deleted480308]

Disregarding someone as racist and unfit for their professional position as has been blatantly done here is not a measured or proportional response to a single tweet making a factual statement that offended the overly sensitive butterflies. Amazing how quickly some of you rally behind the call for equality when the slightest disadvantage has been shown to the majority class but remain silent when minorities or women continue to be systematically marginalized and disadvantaged.

And yes, I will 100% concede a white male making this statement about a minority group would raise a ****storm. That's what happens when you're in a position of privilege and power: you look like an ass when you act negatively to those lacking your advantages. That's why the response to this is ridiculous and embarrassing. People are rolling around babbling and howling like a soccer player over the slightest offence but don't have anything but excuses or justifications when the tables are turned.



"White people can be exhausting."
Q: Can white people be exhausting?
A: Yes.

Sounds like a fact if you're not looking for an excuse to fly the great banner of the poor oppressed socioeconomically empowered majority.

If you are comfortable in your hypocrisy I will leave you to wallow

 

[DeadCactus]

If you are comfortable in your hypocrisy I will leave you to wallow

It's hypocrisy if you've deluded yourself into thinking minorities and women are in the same socioeconomic position as heterosexual white males in this country. Transport her to a land where Asian women hold the vast majority of power and a small minority of white people continue to fight for equal socioeconomic footing and her statement would be disreputable.

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

Disregarding someone as racist and unfit for their professional position as has been blatantly done here is not a measured or proportional response to a single tweet making a factual statement that offended the overly sensitive butterflies. Amazing how quickly some of you rally behind the call for equality when the slightest disadvantage has been shown to the majority class but remain silent when minorities or women continue to be systematically marginalized and disadvantaged.

And yes, I will 100% concede a white male making this statement about a minority group would raise a ****storm. That's what happens when you're in a position of privilege and power: you look like an ass when you act negatively to those lacking your advantages. That's why the response to this is ridiculous and embarrassing. People are rolling around babbling and howling like a soccer player over the slightest offence but don't have anything but excuses or justifications when the tables are turned.

Do what now?

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

It's hypocrisy if you've deluded yourself into thinking minorities and women are in the same socioeconomic position as heterosexual white males in this country. Transport her to a land where Asian women hold the vast majority of power and a small minority of white people continue to fight for equal socioeconomic footing and her statement would be disreputable.

Oh, I see now.

You realize that Choo has way more money and power than I, a straight white male, have. Right?

 

[Listen2Savage]

Disregarding someone as racist and unfit for their professional position as has been blatantly done here is not a measured or proportional response to a single tweet making a factual statement that offended the overly sensitive butterflies. Amazing how quickly some of you rally behind the call for equality when the slightest disadvantage has been shown to the majority class but remain silent when minorities or women continue to be systematically marginalized and disadvantaged.

And yes, I will 100% concede a white male making this statement about a minority group would raise a ****storm. That's what happens when you're in a position of privilege and power: you look like an ass when you act negatively to those lacking your advantages. That's why the response to this is ridiculous and embarrassing. People are rolling around babbling and howling like a soccer player over the slightest offence but don't have anything but excuses or justifications when the tables are turned.



"White people can be exhausting."
Q: Can white people be exhausting?
A: Yes.

Sounds like a fact if you're not looking for an excuse to fly the great banner of the poor oppressed socioeconomically empowered majority.

 

[DeadCactus]

I think the response to her tweet is overblown and disproportionate to the response generally seen when someone from majority group does or says far worse. I think the majority of the outrage demonstrates ignorance of the innumerable social and economic advantages the majority class have and the constant frustrations of minority groups. Maybe learn to own it and appreciate it instead of gerrymandering things to support the world view that gives you the warm bubblies.

If I'm triggered, at least I'm triggered by the attempted character assassination of a fellow physician doing good work rather than so triggered by a tweet that I'll jump to the worst possible conclusions about a person's character despite the testimony of people who actually know her. I'm at 5 responses in a political thread. I've said my piece, time to disengage.

 

[Birdstrike]

I'm triggered by this meme

 

[Listen2Savage]

I think the response to her tweet is overblown and disproportionate to the response generally seen when someone from majority group does or says far worse. I think the majority of the outrage demonstrates ignorance of the innumerable social and economic advantages the majority class have and the constant frustrations of minority groups. Maybe learn to own it and appreciate it instead of gerrymandering things to support the world view that gives you the warm bubblies.

If I'm triggered, at least I'm triggered by the attempted character assassination of a fellow physician doing good work rather than so triggered by a tweet that I'll jump to the worst possible conclusions about a person's character despite the testimony of people who actually know her. I'm at 5 responses in a political thread. I've said my piece, time to disengage.

homeless
drug addicted parents
mom died when I was young
ward of the state for many years in a shelter

But you'd never know any of that because you'd just see white skin

Racism is disgusting, it might be popular to be racist towards white people nowadays but that doesnt make it right.

You're obviously just parroting the common sjw talking points "power and privilege" bs

Come up with an original thought and by god find jesus

 

[Hamhock]

the attempted character assassination of a fellow physician doing good work rather than so triggered by a tweet that I'll jump to the worst possible conclusions about a person's character despite the testimony of people who actually know her.

Hey Dead, I think you can defuse this fairly easily.

You must agree that Choo's statement was "trollish"/intentionally inflammatory or (even worse for her) showing a complete lack of professional awareness, no?

And if so, then engaging with the reactive posters in this thread will quickly be less necessary.

Perhaps the posters "battling" with Dead will even acknowledge the importance of the word "CAN" in her tweet -- which is much different than saying, "White people are exhausting".

And we all know that if a white physician in Choo's position made a similar statement (even with the word "CAN") about black men or Asian women, there would be a much different response.

May it just be left there? She deserves some loss of respect and maybe a response from her department/OHSU; but not pages of SDN.

HH

 

[Listen2Savage]

Perhaps the posters "battling" with Dead will even acknowledge the importance of the word "CAN" in her tweet -- which is much different than saying, "White people are exhausting".

bro you are completely missing the point

 

[Hamhock]

bro you are completely missing the point

I guess I am.

Being honest here: Other than what I said in my post, what is the point?

I am honestly asking what the point of this all is? As you can tell, I am not taking sides here at all...so I am especially concerned if I am "completely missing the point".

HH

 

[Listen2Savage]

I guess I am.

Being honest here: Other than what I said in my post, what is the point?

I am honestly asking what the point of this all is? As you can tell, I am not taking sides here at all...so I am especially concerned if I am "completely missing the point".

HH

That people are individuals and you can't relegate people into groups due to skin color

pretty obvious shiz

like ive said before, the progressives have begun to eat their own tales