Okami WW Game Thread

[Crayola227]

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It’s not tone though. It’s feels. Idk who says “feels”

“Someones voice: Feels”

I used to use feels constantly in early years but haven't for while. Would love for the term to be revived.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I've never made that joke before. Bluntly, if I were to avoid making any joke that you might not parse correctly, I would have to avoid all jokes.

If you never made that joke before, then I don't know why you thought I'd know describing a sole read in its own tier a joke.

And as I've already explained for you, part of my village read is the way that you defended yourself. I can't time travel.

I'm not asking you to. I'm asking to see different behavior in the now and in the future. Things like quit subtly supporting Zenge shading me.

 

[Zenge142]

Actually it was the champs practice game, but it was BoWWling prior to that.

BoWWling doesn’t count. You didn’t die because people were village reading you, you died because Cubs designed the game where we were mechanically required to kill you N1. We had no other choice.

 

[WildZoo]

BoWWling doesn’t count. You didn’t die because people were village reading you, you died because Cubs designed the game where we were mechanically required to kill you N1. We had no other choice.

Well that's not what you asked

 

[Animal Midwife]

Also, your fixation on needing to be defended is very strange, to the point of making me question my read on you.

If you're questioning the read, over something like that, it was never a real one anyway. Don't placate or pretend you can read me.

 

[Truenamer]

If you never made that joke before, then I don't know why you thought I'd know describing a sole read in its own tier a joke.

AM, when has anyone seriously used specific percentages as a part of a read? Or "calculated" a read? People don't do that.

I'm not asking you to. I'm asking to see different behavior in the now and in the future. Things like quit subtly supporting Zenge shading me.

What is this referring to?

 

[Zenge142]

not sure I like Z's play as village-y.

Cray Cray Cray Cray Cray Cray Cray Cray

What can I do to get you to village read me by EOD?

I’ve been 🤔 reacting like…all your posts!

 

[WildZoo]

People are usually too spooked to village read me d1 except for the wolves themselves, and also I am not a threat in terms of wolfhunting, so I'm not a frequent n1 kill. But that doesn't mean it can't happen if a certain someone with a reading card doesn't learn to control himself 😛

 

[samac]

Samac on fluff feels kinda bad in view of the last few posts I been reading and quoting.

Samac, still think fluff is wolfiest? Can you explain to me again why you voted there to begin with?

Wo2 vote feels opportunistic just looking at the tally and not remembering any context for how they got there.

My instinct is to vote alongside genny on AM, because liking genny, and I generally love a reason to vote AM, yet I have to say not getting the wolfing vibe out of her at this point so that doesn't feel right as a vote either.

Also not sure I like zuri and true on Z, but then again not sure I like Z's play as village-y.

I think I'm waffling between Samac, Dubz, and Z at the moment. I need more. I hate to not vote before waffletime though. Also with baby if I don't have a vote down at all times I run the risk of it just not happening at all.

My vote on fluff was salt. I fully admitted it. I moved to dubz though, wanna see how it feels.

Interestingly I’m also interested in Zuri and WO2, I didn’t like WO2’s entrance and tickled my nose hairs. But, they are noobs and I’m trying to resist my urge to pounce because I had a streak of making the game not fun for newer players day 1. Particularly wanted to pounce on Zuri.

 

[Zenge142]

You trying to pocket me Zenge?

Always and forever, wolf mom.

Spoiler

😛

 

[Animal Midwife]

Did I defend genny? Felt more like I gave a thought process and explored my thinking with people on thread.

You said voting me is outside of genny's range. I had to debunk it.

I haven't heard ab update since then.

 

[WildZoo]

My vote on fluff was salt. I fully admitted it. I moved to dubz though, wanna see how it feels.

Interestingly I’m also interested in Zuri and WO2, I didn’t like WO2’s entrance and tickled my nose hairs. But, they are noobs and I’m trying to resist my urge to pounce because I had a streak of making the game not fun for newer players day 1. Particularly wanted to pounce on Zuri.

Wait that was a serious vote? Samac pls.

 

[Crayola227]

Wait obviously.

Idk. Just doesn’t seem super Wolfy. Would wolf genny vote for AM out of the gate? Feels like it could lead to some more high profile interactions that would be better avoided.

Above.

Wolf genny would, I think, because the reason you gave is full of wifom and genny thrives on wifom.

I'm not sure she would white knight me as wolf. When I'm village wolves can practically taste my misyeet.

 

[WildZoo]

Did I defend genny? Felt more like I gave a thought process and explored my thinking with people on thread.

Uh, if this isn't a defense I'm not sure what is. I wasn't even voting her and you said it wasn't a good idea?

I feel good about genny being village. I don’t think that’s a good choice.

 

[Zenge142]

Things like quit subtly supporting Zenge shading me.

Woah woah woah!

How have I shaded you? This hasn’t been my intention in our interactions.

 

[Crayola227]

AM doesn’t like when people vote for her, and her fighting back can get fairly high profile and garner a fair amount of attention. I’m not sure I buy into the idea that Wolf!genny rolls those dice instead of trying to keep a lower profile.

Eh, disagree with the read.

You're not trying to keep the road open for a genny misyeet later, are ya Z?

 

[Zenge142]

Uh, if this isn't a defense I'm not sure what is. I wasn't even voting her and you said it wasn't a good idea?

Yeah, and then I talked through my reasoning with the thread which AM, You, Sporty, and Cray all agreed was a mistake to assume wolf genny wouldn’t vote AM D1. I didn’t argue that. I was looking to explore my thoughts and discuss.

 

[Zenge142]

You're not trying to keep the road open for a genny misyeet later, are ya Z?

I would never

 

[Crayola227]

Genny is also a favored wolf misyeet. Not saying she's easy to misyeet necessarily, but if we rank ease of yeeting her armor isn't on level with dubz. No offense taken I hope genny.

 

[samac]

Did I defend genny? Felt more like I gave a thought process and explored my thinking with people on thread.

I felt like you kinda did.

Also, your fixation on needing to be defended is very strange, to the point of making me question my read on you.

That’s the changing factor?

While I appreciate this sentiment, it feels like this comment is a little tangential for what samac actually said.

You trying to pocket me Zenge?

Omg, this is why I am never in the village blocc. Anyone that even might suggest I am village I auto wolf read for it. 😪

I tried to bring you in the village blocc in criminal minds and you declined.

Wait that was a serious vote? Samac pls.

As AM would say all votes are real

 

[Zenge142]

You said voting me is outside of genny's range. I had to debunk it.

I haven't heard ab update since then.

You gave the update yourself. You backed it up with examples. Dubz Sporty and Cray have all agreed. I’ve taken it as gospel that my interpretation was wrong. I didn’t feel the need to manually update, when I was presented with facts. The facts were an automatic update.

 

[samac]

I was trying to figure out why it felt like the noobs weren’t here other than true. There’s only 4 of them.
Who’s the high posters that’s wolfin?
Which one of you is it?

 

[WildZoo]

Yeah, and then I talked through my reasoning with the thread which AM, You, Sporty, and Cray all agreed was a mistake to assume wolf genny wouldn’t vote AM D1. I didn’t argue that. I was looking to explore my thoughts and discuss.

Well it would be pretty silly to have argued with it. I just meant the initial defense.

 

[Crayola227]

I don’t agree that a player as gutsy as genny would really care about that. Wolf!Zenge, maybe

Yes, and this thinking concerns me for this reason. Like Z is wearing his wolf hat and so all the thoughts in his head have a wolf lens on them. I do this too when wolfing sometimes. Not sure if Wolf Z is prone to that error though

 

[WildZoo]

I was trying to figure out why it felt like the noobs weren’t here other than true. There’s only 4 of them.
Who’s the high posters that’s wolfin?
Which one of you is it?

Well it's not me, Zenge said so

 

[Animal Midwife]

AM, when has anyone seriously used specific percentages as a part of a read? Or "calculated" a read? People don't do that.

I have. As have other people. It just depends on the playstyle and confidence.

What is this referring to?

 

[Zenge142]

Yes, and this thinking concerns me for this reason. Like Z is wearing his wolf hat and so all the thoughts in his head have a wolf lens on them. I do this too when wolfing sometimes. Not sure if Wolf Z is prone to that error though

Not gearing me up for a misyeet, are you Cray?

 

[Crayola227]

It's been years. Couldn't tell you the exact date or game though.

I don't think it's been years. I know I've done it since Z and Shorty been playing and they are going on a year and 9 months of play, right? Like they are the noob class before the current one, right? I consider anything less than 2 years or more less than "years" plural.

Don't have the energy or time to comb games to see

 

[Truenamer]

I was trying to figure out why it felt like the noobs weren’t here other than true. There’s only 4 of them.
Who’s the high posters that’s wolfin?
Which one of you is it?

I think it might be Zenge.

 

[samac]

I have. As have other people. It just depends on the playstyle and confidence.

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That’s a first for me. Damn AM. You do that often?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Wolf genny would, I think, because the reason you gave is full of wifom and genny thrives on wifom.

I'm not sure she would white knight me as wolf. When I'm village wolves can practically taste my misyeet.

She has whiteknighted you multiple times before. What do you mean by "when I'm village"?

 

[WildZoo]

She has whiteknighted you multiple times before.

Oh has she? Welp.

 

[samac]

Not gearing me up for a misyeet, are you Cray?

I think it might be Zenge.

 

[Zenge142]

I was trying to figure out why it felt like the noobs weren’t here other than true. There’s only 4 of them.
Who’s the high posters that’s wolfin?
Which one of you is it?

Why does it have to be any of us?

 

[Truenamer]

I have. As have other people. It just depends on the playstyle and confidence.

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Would love to know how to calculate mathematic percentages when it comes to a social deception game.

Also... yes? I like a lot of posts. It's very easy to cherry pick. I'm not quite on Alley's level, but I will often use reactions as a borderline read-receipt for myself to better keep track of what I've read and what I haven't. I think you're reading too much into it and getting worked up.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Woah woah woah!

How have I shaded you? This hasn’t been my intention in our interactions.

Then why are you discouraging True from village reading me?

 

[WildZoo]

If Zenge has introduced highposting into his wolf meta I'm never giving a read on him again

 

[Truenamer]

Do I get an eye-twitch? 😀

 

[Zenge142]

Like Z is wearing his wolf hat

I’m always wearing my wolf hat. Think like a wolf to catch a wolf 😉

 

[Truenamer]

If Zenge has introduced highposting into his wolf meta I'm never giving a read on him again

Yeah, I acknowledge that my previous sign of "scum-Zenge" is being a little quieter and more blendy. But he also knows that people have that perception of him...

I'm not married to my vote on him, he's just my best guess. And since I don't have PSV or Stoat to sheep, I have to sheep myself, and I actually have a decent D1 track record.

 

[Zenge142]

Well it's not me, Zenge said so

I only alluded to it, thank you very much.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I don't think it's been years. I know I've done it since Z and Shorty been playing and they are going on a year and 9 months of play, right? Like they are the noob class before the current one, right? I consider anything less than 2 years or more less than "years" plural.

Don't have the energy or time to comb games to see

I'm pretty sure it was 2020 or earlier.

 

[samac]

Why does it have to be any of us?

Are we working under the assumption of 2 or 3 wolves?
My original assumption was 3 at 25% but other people disagree?
High activity levels are dubz, you, cray, AM, and true being active AF. Odds seem in the favor of wolf.
I’m not as active as normal but if you wanna count me that’s 6 of us.
That’s half the roster. seems like odds are in favor of a wolf around here.

 

[Zenge142]

I'm not married to my vote on him

@bluestoat would have been shook by the development

 

[Animal Midwife]

That’s a first for me. Damn AM. You do that often?

No, I wouldn't say often, but I do monitor likes at times.

 

[Zenge142]

Are we working under the assumption of 2 or 3 wolves?
My original assumption was 3 at 25% but other people disagree?
High activity levels are dubz, you, cray, AM, and true being active AF. Odds seem in the favor of wolf.
I’m not as active as normal but if you wanna count me that’s 6 of us.
That’s half the roster. seems like odds are in favor of a wolf around here.

I’m working under the assumption of “2 or 3” when 2 are dead and the game hasn’t ended, I’ll know it was 3.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Oh has she? Welp.

Yeah, I don't remember the title but one time genny was buddying up to Cray, cauisng her to village read genny, then after genny flipped, Cray was under a lot of scrutiny.

 

[Truenamer]

I’m working under the assumption of “2 or 3” when 2 are dead and the game hasn’t ended, I’ll know it was 3.

Just go count how many people are in your role PM for us

 

[Crayola227]

I'm not village reading her for either of those things because the Cray read is wholly centered on something Cray said before the game randed. I need more from her including wolf reads.

I gave wolf reads. Admittedly, not feeling the SP wolf read anymore.

Still eyeing Z. And Dubz, plus or minus Samac. I don't want to go after noobs, but admit WO and Zuri have me concerned.

By my own standards I should have a POE no smaller than 4-6 for 2-3 wolves, but it is still D1. As of late vill reads have been more clear to me than wolf ones. If you read my reads list, my village reads I think are fairly obvious by process of elimination.

And the read is not centered on something I said before rand. You are questioning if I am really so protective of noobs, and it is at best, all we can say is it is NAI. It is not a wolfy lie, because what I am saying now tracks perfectly with what I said outside of any gamestate at all. Unless your theory is that I was wolfing in dead chat as a dead villager. Which even I'm going to tell you is overly paranoid.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Would love to know how to calculate mathematic percentages when it comes to a social deception game.

Also... yes? I like a lot of posts. It's very easy to cherry pick. I'm not quite on Alley's level, but I will often use reactions as a borderline read-receipt for myself to better keep track of what I've read and what I haven't. I think you're reading too much into it and getting worked up.

If I'm cherrypicking your reaction to my versus Zenge's points, you're welcome to show you entire reaction history that I omitted.