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Trying to organize my thoughts, I would appreciate questions/comments/disagreements:

Village

fluff
AM
Samac

Sporty
genny
Cray
Woxy

Vis
Zuri

Woof
 
Day 2: Leap Before You Think Tally

zuri (3)-- samac, fluff, True
Cray (1) - zuri
Visc (1) - AM

5/10

Missing: exactly half
Leading: @zuriburi

Vote closes tomorrow at 9 p.m. CST (~31 hours)

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genny said:
Spicy!AM

Isn’t regular chess 3d? Unless you’re playing online, I suppose, and you could argue it’s 2d then? So big 3d chess would be like Harry Potter wizard chess, yes? This is still WW though
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3D chess is like Star Trek Spock chess
 
Truenamer said:
Trying to organize my thoughts, I would appreciate questions/comments/disagreements:

Village

fluff
AM
Samac

Sporty
genny
Cray
Woxy

Vis
Zuri

Woof
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I’m debating on TWTBW for zuri
Visc was weird AF at vote close last night.
O2 is a ghost and if I lose to a ghost because they’re a ghost I’ll be pissed
And I agree that cray, genny, and sportsport are a big gray glob in the middle
Not sure how I feel about you
But I think I want you yo be village.
 
samac said:
Is zuri TWTBW or a noob wolf with not a lot of guidance?
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It's hard to see how if it is a 2 person pack with zuri as one member, that it would be a pack with a lot of guidance if the partner is not myself, you, AM. Genny and SP have the experience but probably not the time. Even as a 3 person pack... in 10th Ann I was literally solo wolfing for like the entire first day and night cycle.

Visc has some experience.

I dunno, people massively blow out of proportion the degree that a wolf pack can control on thread behavior. Running every single post by pack chat first? Don't see it happening overall.

I can see the Zuri sus, I don't argue that. I could also see it if he listens closely to Fluff. But nothing about the play makes clear to me what is or is not taking place in any hypothetical pack chat.
 
Truenamer said:
He's showing pretty solid game understanding...

Either way, for some reason I have the feeling that the wolves aren't doing a ton of tight coordinating or planning.

Now that I know zenge is a villager I'm wondering if he's actually right about it being a noob / lowposter pack :/
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**** man not another noob or lowposter pack
 
Crayola227 said:
It's hard to see how if it is a 2 person pack with zuri as one member, that it would be a pack with a lot of guidance if the partner is not myself, you, AM. Genny and SP have the experience but probably not the time. Even as a 3 person pack... in 10th Ann I was literally solo wolfing for like the entire first day and night cycle.

Visc has some experience.

I dunno, people massively blow out of proportion the degree that a wolf pack can control on thread behavior. Running every single post by pack chat first? Don't see it happening overall.

I can see the Zuri sus, I don't argue that. I could also see it if he listens closely to Fluff. But nothing about the play makes clear to me what is or is not taking place in any hypothetical pack chat.
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I think it’s more the knowledge he’s throwing down. Not necessarily that he’s being coached in wolf chat but is what wolf chat discussed/brought up being parroted by him on thread?
I said he lacks guidance, not has a lot of it.
 
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samac said:
I was happy to move back to O2 to save zenge, I didn’t jump at the last second and go “whoops zenge died”. I went for my wolfier read to see if anyone would follow.
I would have jumped back onto O2 to save him but after you moved off and dubz moved off that didn’t seem viable. Then you threw your vote down last second.
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Yeah sorry.

I still want to know about samac wolf meta, what can you tell me?

That's probably my main issue, is not feeling like I have any real idea of that. If I had some idea, I would feel better.
 
Crayola227 said:
Yeah sorry.

I still want to know about samac wolf meta, what can you tell me?

That's probably my main issue, is not feeling like I have any real idea of that. If I had some idea, I would feel better.
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“Hey samac, can you tell me what you’re like when you wolf in case you’re wolfing?”
 
Crayola227 said:
Yeah sorry.

I still want to know about samac wolf meta, what can you tell me?

That's probably my main issue, is not feeling like I have any real idea of that. If I had some idea, I would feel better.
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Honestly I’m not really sure.
I feel like I tend to be less invested and low post
I had a habit of not liking posts so people wouldn’t know when I was on thread or not on thread.
I apparently have a distinctive village tone. I’d say ask PSV cause she sniffed me out in one post before, but she’s modding lol
 
samac said:
I think it’s more the knowledge he’s throwing down. Not necessarily that he’s being coached in wolf chat but is what wolf chat discussed/brought up being parroted by him on thread?
I said he lacks guidance, not has a lot of it.
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I agree, wasn't saying you were saying that. I'm saying that going by my village reads, it checks out he wouldn't have a lot of guidance, actually, so you're probably right. However I've made the mistake of yeeting a noob that seemed too good to be noob villager that ended up being vill multiple times. I just want to think about and talk about and analyze Zuri before pulling the trigger.

I don't find it super compelling as a basis for a wolf read is all I'm saying, and in general using noob wolf play to rule in or out partners on the basis of how much is going on behind the scenes in the pack chat, also limited utility.

I think NK choices, like last game, might have a slightly better edge than post analysis "are they too good/do they have guidance" to be more illuminating for determining pack make up. Does that make any sense?

Like, noob wolves posting out of control (Bioshock) says less if a vet is in the chat or not, because it can really be either way, vets don't control posts that much.

But the NKs can be a better clue who is in the pack because that is rarely up to only one wolf.

Let me be abundantly clear. Last game, I said, what a minute, are we sure about sus on mkg, vis, fluff? Because LHF. I WAS sussing all 3 though. I fall into a trap where someone seems obvs sus to me, and they really are, but I reverse psych myself out of it. As I often do with vill reads. So I have to grind it out in this process.

So I definitely am sus of Zuri and very concerned. I am just trying to be sure because of I have conflicting emotions that might not be good for the game. Like, I don't want to discourage new good noob. I don't want that early misyeet. That doesn't mean I'm convinced it's a misyeet. That doesn't mean those feelings are the best thing to influence my vote for my faction to win. So I'm trying to resolve all of this.
 
samac said:
I kinda like em.

God damn that’s assuming some big 3D chess. That would be a good play as a wolf, vote with zenge while also intentionally getting zenge yeeted. I’ll give you that.
What made you think of that as a possibility?

I really haven’t picked up on her BWE (big wolf energy).
Maybe I’m wrong here but she feels inherently different.
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Wolf energy. Gotta reduce the wolf energy when I wolf. Got it
 
SportPonies said:
“Hey samac, can you tell me what you’re like when you wolf in case you’re wolfing?”
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While this is hilarious, it is a fun question to try to make a wolf answer about themselves while wolfing. Or sidestep. How can they give a good believable answer while not giving themselves away? Lol
 
Truenamer said:
Trying to organize my thoughts, I would appreciate questions/comments/disagreements:

Village

fluff
AM
Samac

Sporty
genny
Cray
Woxy

Vis
Zuri

Woof
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Not disagreeing with this. But are the wolves that unlucky again to have 2 noob players in the pack? Not counting vis ofc. I’m just afraid that there’s another big fish somewhere in the village pile. Esp if Zuri flips village
 
justafluff said:
Not disagreeing with this. But are the wolves that unlucky again to have 2 noob players in the pack? Not counting vis ofc. I’m just afraid that there’s another big fish somewhere in the village pile. Esp if Zuri flips village
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Who are you considering outside of those two?
 
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Viscernable said:
Hmmm from the very of zuri that I saw yesterday, I don’t like him being bottom of reads, especially in combo with another lowposting noob
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##### yeet Vis ####

Feel OK about voting with AM. If she's wolfing, she's done a great job with her tone.

Also feel the worst about Vis posts now that I know Z's Aff.

Also not quite ready to vote with Samac on a noob. This could be my feelings getting in my way.

Also Zuri has 2 votes. Let's see what happens if Vis is tied rather than putting Zuri further ahead.
 
Crayola227 said:
Actually, people do. I have. I thought even earlier I gave odds like 40/60 in this very game?
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Rereading the thread and seeing the Zenge reacts knowing how wrong I was makes me so very sad. I did bad fam.

But also the reading is making me more worried about TN.
 
Viscernable said:
I get that this is a joke but I keep coming back to how it also could be either defense or whiteknighting-now-but-setting-up-for-possible-future-misyeet under the excuse of “just a joke”.
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Reply to Dubz. Noting because it doesn't look good knowing what we know.
 
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samac said:
I read this as I feel better about zuri today and was shook
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because they typed some words that showed an ability to analyze and plan (and an uncanny awareness of the threadstate despite seeming naive yesterday) after their biggest detractor was killed last night? no, there's no way a wolf would do that...
 
Crayola227 said:
Notice I said, "what pressure *here* does", not "how this player responds to pressure"

Kinda spooky the way you responded.
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You're saying you were interested in others' reactions? Did you learn anything from them?
 
Animal Midwife said:
@WorthlessOxygen Since you're back now, could I hear your thoughts on wolves?
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I have to reread some things because I think I missed a lot while catching up.

I did think some of zenge/true's interactions were not v/v.

I get the zuri sus and they're in my POE but I'm not convinced they're wolfing
 
samac said:
Me: Nick I’m playing a werewolf game
Nick: of course you are
Me: and guess what? The person I can never get on the same page with (cray here) voted me early game that makes sense.
Nick: yeah no not surprised
Me: BUT NOW SHES UNVOTED ME AND IS AGREEING WITH ME
Nick: wolf
Me: I KNOW THIS IS WEIRD RIGHT
Nick: I have no idea what the play is, but wolf.
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Just seeing this. Clearly we need to one day get together for couples drinks and Cessna and Nick can commiserate about being WWidowers.
 
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