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zuriburi said:
fwiw I had read it and simply forgot. (Which I guess also means that I could have a pack yelling at me to fix it and still forget?) I have a tendency to ramble in all settings so getting my votes mixed up in my commentary is an extension of that. as I understand it now, votes should go in separate lines from the commentary, but can be in the same post?
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Yeah, they just need to be clear and distinct for the mods. We're trying to make their lives easy, so that they're kind and gracious to us when we have last minute panic-scrambles
 
Truenamer said:
It would be wildly out of character for AM and I haven't seen fluff pull off that kind of theater in a way that doesn't set off red flags. Not saying she can't, just that she hasn't.
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Yeah, AM wouldn’t do it that early. She got flustered when zenge and I did it once and she didn’t understand why.
I’ve also caught onto fluff’s wolf theater and it lead me to sport sport. They wouldn’t try if they didn’t have to.
 
i feel good about AM.
I don’t know how I feel about genny, but I’m going to let zenge guide me for now.
Fluff doesn’t feel like a wolf.

I feel okay about true, but not enough to put him in the village pile.
Cray has flip flopped like a god damn fish all over the thread. I’m not sure what to make of her.

Zuri is actually feeling better and more just noob today. I dunno.

Visc feels bad.
O2 feels bad, but it’s weak because I don’t have a lot of content.

Sporty at this point is a complete enigma to me. Absent around vote close and feels like there hasn’t been much added today.

My biggest inclination is to get O2 out of the way because he’s low posting, I didn’t like his entrance, and if he says around he’s going to be dragged to end game as either a Low posting wolf or big shiny misyeet bait for the wolves. I don’t have a lot of wolf points to give him, but no village either. Wish we would have flipped him yesterday, but the way his wagon dissipated with miraculous. And lead by cray, just to note. She put the vote down and her screaming reaction test made it go poof
 
zuriburi said:
I barely remeber the incinsisten logic thing but I remember a post where someone was like here’s cray saying one thing and then here’s cray saying the opposite thing. And I answered my suspicion for samac somewhere but their answer satisfied me (a move they made off of Oxy that eoukd have been a really deft wolf play but also makes sense as a villager trying to deal with vote close.)
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Okay I think I remember the thing you’re talking about. I don’t remember what it was but I remember I decided it sounded like typical NAI Cray stream-of-conciousness-considering-all-positions-and-whipping-between-them
 
kaydubs said:
Day 2: Leap Before You Think Tally

zuri (2)-- True, genny
Cray ()
Visc (4) - AM, Cray, Sporty, zuri
WO2 (1)- samac

7/10

Missing: @Viscernable @justafluff @WorthlessOxygen
Leading: @Viscernable

Vote closes TODAY at 9 p.m. CST (~14.25 hours)

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KD I think visc voted for me
 
Viscernable said:
Okay I think I remember the thing you’re talking about. I don’t remember what it was but I remember I decided it sounded like typical NAI Cray stream-of-conciousness-considering-all-positions-and-whipping-between-them
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Yeah that wasn’t my final reason for suspecting cray it was more the argument I laid out for her steering some trains as a wolf.
 
Truenamer said:
hrm.

Yeah. Zuri's been here putting the work in, at least.

@justafluff , can you explain to me again why you yeeted him last night fairly off the cuff, then unyeeted him today? I apologize if you've already explained that to AM or someone.
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He was in my big neutral pile and Zenge being misyeeted pissed me off. I was buying the whole Vis, Zuri pack + or - AM or Sporty or wOxy. But then AM voted vis and Zuri came on thread and defended himself and I actually am very surprised at how perceptive he is. And then he voted vis too. So my pack theory dissipated.

POE right now is:
Wolfy
Vis, wOxy,

Less wolfy (could be wolfing but not compatible with all above)
AM, Sporty

Neutral (could be wolfing but not seeing it)
Zuri, True, Cray

Less village (trust Zenge and feels but not sure)
Genny

Village (pretty sure)
Samac
 
Truenamer said:
The chance of me N1ing Dubz is microscopic. And if I did, I sure as hell wouldn't have been messing around with goofy contingency yeets on her. I'm a better wolf than that.
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I think DubZ was the most dangerous player for wolf-you last game so it’d be really smart if you NK her on N1. She didn’t have mod protection this time. Like the #1 mistake to correct from last time you wolfed, would be to kill her early.
 
Truenamer said:
The chance of me N1ing Dubz is microscopic. And if I did, I sure as hell wouldn't have been messing around with goofy contingency yeets on her. I'm a better wolf than that.
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But night kill wouldn't solely be up to you, right? Plus I think she seemed to be at least willing to consider you as a wolf so I don't even know that I believe your claim that you wouldn't N1 her
 
samac said:
My biggest inclination is to get O2 out of the way because he’s low posting, I didn’t like his entrance
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I know this has been brought up a few times so while I can somewhat react in real-time: I get why you're wolf reading me but both of those are pretty normal for me
 
WorthlessOxygen said:
I know this has been brought up a few times so while I can somewhat react in real-time: I get why you're wolf reading me but both of those are pretty normal for me
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What’s your thoughts on the roster?
 
samac said:
What’s your thoughts on the roster?
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POE: True (obviously), Zuri, Visc
I think I feel ok about: Fluff, AM, Samac
Leaving neutrals as: Genny, Sporty, Cray

Cray I especially don't know what to do with because I keep finding that 50-70% of her posts I agree with and the rest make no sense to me
 
As a mod, I would almost prefer a separate post with a vote in it or tag me direct.

When I’m catching up on multiple pages of thread, I am less likely to miss those two things.

Also, as an FYI for tallies, I try to reflect the order of voting when possible. Didn’t know if that affects how people analyze tallies.
I’ve been considering moving a player who gets voted to when they’re voted:

Example:
X votes Y, then unvotes Y, votes S
A votes Y much later:
Tally: (current)
Y ()
S (1) - X

To be considered:
S (1) - X
Y(1) - A

I don’t know if that will cause more confusion or not.

It may be no one cares.
 
kaydubs said:
As a mod, I would almost prefer a separate post with a vote in it or tag me direct.

When I’m catching up on multiple pages of thread, I am less likely to miss those two things.

Also, as an FYI for tallies, I try to reflect the order of voting when possible. Didn’t know if that affects how people analyze tallies.
I’ve been considering moving a player who gets voted to when they’re voted:

Example:
X votes Y, then unvotes Y, votes S
A votes Y much later:
Tally: (current)
Y ()
S (1) - X

To be considered:
S (1) - X
Y(1) - A

I don’t know if that will cause more confusion or not.

It may be no one cares.
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I really appreciate the effort and the order does matter to me. Thank you, KD.
 
kaydubs said:
As a mod, I would almost prefer a separate post with a vote in it or tag me direct.

When I’m catching up on multiple pages of thread, I am less likely to miss those two things.

Also, as an FYI for tallies, I try to reflect the order of voting when possible. Didn’t know if that affects how people analyze tallies.
I’ve been considering moving a player who gets voted to when they’re voted:

Example:
X votes Y, then unvotes Y, votes S
A votes Y much later:
Tally: (current)
Y ()
S (1) - X

To be considered:
S (1) - X
Y(1) - A

I don’t know if that will cause more confusion or not.

It may be no one cares.
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As a player, I do use the former a lot in analyzing, but my opinion doesn't matter in this game.
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kaydubs said:
As a mod, I would almost prefer a separate post with a vote in it or tag me direct.

When I’m catching up on multiple pages of thread, I am less likely to miss those two things.

Also, as an FYI for tallies, I try to reflect the order of voting when possible. Didn’t know if that affects how people analyze tallies.
I’ve been considering moving a player who gets voted to when they’re voted:

Example:
X votes Y, then unvotes Y, votes S
A votes Y much later:
Tally: (current)
Y ()
S (1) - X

To be considered:
S (1) - X
Y(1) - A

I don’t know if that will cause more confusion or not.

It may be no one cares.
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Order definitely matters to me. It provides a psuedo-tracker if sorts.
 
samac said:
I was saying he keeps putting his votes in wall text and if I was his wolf partner I’d be slapping him.

Yeah I said it, doesn’t mean he read it.

Because I’m voting for Zenge’s other top wolf read as the other wolf read has tried harder?

So is the list ranked from least to most village?
And then you land on voting me or AM? Lol.
Also Visc is in the same noob class as me and has played probably the same number of games as me, if not more. We both sit out a fair amount.

Yeah I didn’t abandon Zenge’s wolf reads completely, I just changed my mind and I’m going for the other one.

Wolf samac 100% would have wanted a zenge misyeet, but probably would have fed into it, not jumped around trying to save him in the last 3 minutes.
I would not N1 dubz cause her and I haven’t got to play together much and I miss her.

It wasn’t. It was commentary on the last game when the thread closed at 7am, locked, and then I was N1’d and pissed that I didn’t get to leave the reads on the thread I want to. I usually don’t hang around too much after close on the weekdays, and catch up in the morning so the game thread closing and locking as I was reading frustrated the **** out of me.
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For the record, I didn't land on voting you or AM. That is why I had my reads list summarized and very clear.

Wall of text later, I thought was clear that it is just deliberations that involves me working through complex and stupid emotions. I think it was important for me to try to work through them.

The list was most wolfy to least wolfy, actually.
 
Truenamer said:
The chance of me N1ing Dubz is microscopic. And if I did, I sure as hell wouldn't have been messing around with goofy contingency yeets on her. I'm a better wolf than that.
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You had me until the last sentence, because a good wolf could rely on the tons of WIFOM inherent in this defense. Just saying.

I think NKing her first night 2 nights in a row might actually qualify as an official dick wolves move though if the same people did it as last time. But wolves gotta wolf, man.
 
WorthlessOxygen said:
POE: True (obviously), Zuri, Visc
I think I feel ok about: Fluff, AM, Samac
Leaving neutrals as: Genny, Sporty, Cray

Cray I especially don't know what to do with because I keep finding that 50-70% of her posts I agree with and the rest make no sense to me
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Is it bad my brain twitched just because it’s 3 people in each individual group and wolves tend to like groups of 3s? It’s probably nothing
 
samac said:
Oh I missed this post.
No I do not think AM and fluff are wolfing together.
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Thanks.

To be clear, I think how I generate some crazy stuff, is I read one post and some theory comes to mind, and then I like to get input to either discard the theory or rank it as more likely. Just my process. PbPa, a post in isolation, allows one to generate more theories than if you take the thread as a whole or add in other context/info like VCA or meta. That is both a strength and a weakness of the method.
 
zuriburi said:
fwiw I had read it and simply forgot. (Which I guess also means that I could have a pack yelling at me to fix it and still forget?) I have a tendency to ramble in all settings so getting my votes mixed up in my commentary is an extension of that. as I understand it now, votes should go in separate lines from the commentary, but can be in the same post?
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Yes they can be in the same post. It just helps if they're not buried in text for the mods who sometimes have to skim without reading to count them.
 
samac said:
i feel good about AM.
I don’t know how I feel about genny, but I’m going to let zenge guide me for now.
Fluff doesn’t feel like a wolf.

I feel okay about true, but not enough to put him in the village pile.
Cray has flip flopped like a god damn fish all over the thread. I’m not sure what to make of her.

Zuri is actually feeling better and more just noob today. I dunno.

Visc feels bad.
O2 feels bad, but it’s weak because I don’t have a lot of content.

Sporty at this point is a complete enigma to me. Absent around vote close and feels like there hasn’t been much added today.

My biggest inclination is to get O2 out of the way because he’s low posting, I didn’t like his entrance, and if he says around he’s going to be dragged to end game as either a Low posting wolf or big shiny misyeet bait for the wolves. I don’t have a lot of wolf points to give him, but no village either. Wish we would have flipped him yesterday, but the way his wagon dissipated with miraculous. And lead by cray, just to note. She put the vote down and her screaming reaction test made it go poof
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The flip flopping is just the process, especially early game.

I agree with this list.

Also willing to stick on a ghosty noob now as well. I mean, we misyeeted Zenge D1 so we hardly need to feel like as a group we're unfairly targeting LHF. Sometimes LHF really are the wolves, like last game. I recognize TN might not meet strict definition as LHF but I already said in my estimation noobs overall are LHF respectively.

Anyway, can't really give people a pass indefinitely and solve the game effectively anyway.
 
zuriburi said:
Yeah that wasn’t my final reason for suspecting cray it was more the argument I laid out for her steering some trains as a wolf.
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Yes but part of your theory was that I would hesitate to steer it your way. Which, I guess you could theorize I wouldn't to not be wolf hypocrite about LHF, except if I'm ever going to put principles aside it's going to be for the benefit of the wolf pack.

I'm still struggling to understand a bit why you find me wolfier than say, WO or other players.
 
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