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Including this one explaining the egg reference, which I believe is why he still had eggs in mind when making the eggcelent joke
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zuriburi said:
And I’m sorry to say that the thing that gives True away is the egg joke. Because he’s claiming to miss my vote, and the record shows that he did not in fact miss my vote.

I went back and checked the history of my reacts.
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???

Huh?
 
SportPonies said:
…can you explain your reasoning for this?

You’re voting for a village read instead of a wolf read because… if you’re village read is a wolf, it clears your wolf read?
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No true is 100% my wolf read. I just could be wrong. And if this sways no one and everyone stays on woxy I can live with it, because a woxy yeet would give us a lot of info either way. I believe woxy will flip village because I don’t buy ghosting’s as evidence for wolfing especially for a newish player. Like I would honestly have been so much more engaged (though probably super clumsily) on d1 if I was wolfing bc it sounds more exciting. But if woxy flips wolf than my entire poe is off so that’s also something I would learn a lot from.
 
zuriburi said:
No true is 100% my wolf read. I just could be wrong. And if this sways no one and everyone stays on woxy I can live with it, because a woxy yeet would give us a lot of info either way. I believe woxy will flip village because I don’t buy ghosting’s as evidence for wolfing especially for a newish player. Like I would honestly have been so much more engaged (though probably super clumsily) on d1 if I was wolfing bc it sounds more exciting. But if woxy flips wolf than my entire poe is off so that’s also something I would learn a lot from.
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What is your POE beyond me? I asked earlier and I don't know if you answered, but I don't remember it if you did.
 
zuriburi said:
No true is 100% my wolf read. I just could be wrong. And if this sways no one and everyone stays on woxy I can live with it, because a woxy yeet would give us a lot of info either way. I believe woxy will flip village because I don’t buy ghosting’s as evidence for wolfing especially for a newish player. Like I would honestly have been so much more engaged (though probably super clumsily) on d1 if I was wolfing bc it sounds more exciting. But if woxy flips wolf than my entire poe is off so that’s also something I would learn a lot from.
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I hate saying this, but I must admit you’re making a solid effort to reason out your reads.
 
zuriburi said:
Including this one explaining the egg reference, which I believe is why he still had eggs in mind when making the eggcelent joke View attachment 358665

frittada
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Zuri, I was clicking reacts while in a meeting. It slipped my mind that you had already voted when I made my vote. I play much, much more carefully when I'm a wolf, and don't vote without checking exactly where the existing votes are.
 
Truenamer said:
What is your POE beyond me? I asked earlier and I don't know if you answered, but I don't remember it if you did.
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Not sure i want to explain that to a wolf right now, because I’m interested in how they might react to this argument Tbh. Would love to her any answers you have to any of the non joke allegations
 
zuriburi said:
Not sure i want to explain that to a wolf right now, because I’m interested in how they might react to this argument Tbh. Would love to her any answers you have to any of the non joke allegations
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That is not how this works, Zuri. You're not explaining it to me, you're explaining it to the entire village. Because when I flip villager, it isn't going to look good for you, and you want to already have a clear POE in place.
 
zuriburi said:
Not sure i want to explain that to a wolf right now, because I’m interested in how they might react to this argument Tbh. Would love to her any answers you have to any of the non joke allegations
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What are your non-joke allegations? Written plainly? I don't want to fight to understand your meaning through fifteen forced egg puns, just spell out why you think I'm a wolf.
 
SportPonies said:
FLUFF I asked you to stop answering for him.
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We honestly haven’t been talking about this stuff or strategizing here I think that is fairly obvious though. And true isn’t just voting for woxy he’s been a vocal advocate for the woxy train for a while. A woxy wolf flip would also 100% clear samac who I’ve generally trusted anyway, and I think clear cray and am as well. I mean I guess it’s possible that some of them would be bussing but unlikely I think
 
zuriburi said:
We honestly haven’t been talking about this stuff or strategizing here I think that is fairly obvious though. And true isn’t just voting for woxy he’s been a vocal advocate for the woxy train for a while. A woxy wolf flip would also 100% clear samac who I’ve generally trusted anyway, and I think clear cray and am as well. I mean I guess it’s possible that some of them would be bussing but unlikely I think
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It’s not a matter of whether you’ve been talking about the game outside the game. It’s just bad play to answer for someone else when they’re getting pointed questions aimed at them.
 
zuriburi said:
We honestly haven’t been talking about this stuff or strategizing here I think that is fairly obvious though. And true isn’t just voting for woxy he’s been a vocal advocate for the woxy train for a while. A woxy wolf flip would also 100% clear samac who I’ve generally trusted anyway, and I think clear cray and am as well. I mean I guess it’s possible that some of them would be bussing but unlikely I think
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It would be a very good mark for Cray but stop just short of clearing her. It would make her a very low yeet priority, at the very least.
 
zuriburi said:
We honestly haven’t been talking about this stuff or strategizing here I think that is fairly obvious though. And true isn’t just voting for woxy he’s been a vocal advocate for the woxy train for a while. A woxy wolf flip would also 100% clear samac who I’ve generally trusted anyway, and I think clear cray and am as well. I mean I guess it’s possible that some of them would be bussing but unlikely I think
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It’s ok Zuri. It’s a big no no and rude cause they want to interact with you not me. Sorry @SportPonies
 
SportPonies said:
Where was the original argument for true? I want to reread it.
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zuriburi said:
Sorry in advance for the mega post, just wanted to lay out my case against true in full. It starts with this joke. Yeah I get it’s a joke, but it feels more like the kind of joke you’d make as a wolf to throw some chaos into the mix than a village joking at the idea of being a wolf.

so this is still very early and he’s following up on my initial post but without any rationale...

And then here he claims to have missed my vote? But I think I was the only one on zenge at this point and I get I hadn’t learned to vote as clearly yet but it seems unlikely that you’d missi it when there was one page to read. Anyway, shrugs it off and moves on to solid egg puns. That’s not wolfy, I think it’s actually pretty well eggxecuted. (though Actually now that I’m hear thinking about eggs, the thing that initially made me vote zenge was responding to his good eggs comment which I misinterpreted as a wolf pocketing, but it seems like if true missed my vote eggs might be less on his mind.)

This is one of a long line of true holding onto the zenge vote without ever giving a real reason.

There’s a bunch of quotes here that are all just kinda random and I don’t know just scrambling a bunch of quotes together without making a case about any one of them feels like something you’d do if you were trying to put in the work to look like a villager without actually wolf hunting.





at this point it seems like true is just stalling for time holding onto the reaction test while enduring hard-boiled pressure from DubZ, which I think ultimately led true to crack and nk DubZ while trying to cover for it with some nighttime banter.


this strikes me as a feggned ignorance of the number of wolves… it doesn’t seem like a high priority to figure out and the extra effort here in calculating the proportion feels over easy analysis of this detail for d1.


to be fair and include the sunny side up along with my suspicions this struck me as a pretty normal joke, uneggceptional.

yolking himself to any leggitimate suspicion of zenge to reinforce the misyeet




lots of hemming and hawing claiming to hold onto the zegge vote with lots of reluctance. Giving all the reasons to not follow through without ever considering a substitute. Also gives Cray a pass here who remains one of my top wolf reads.


after vote close, true immediately flips and sizzles about how sad he is that zenge is dead now before the reveal even happens. almost like he knew… seems a bit fried.



Tires to cover for a DubZ nk but dubz messes around which I think leads to it going bad.


trying to figure out a new misyeet target. with my cray pack theory I think it makes sense to include at least one pack are as your building your sus list when you’re picking out of the dozen.

of course, you’d want to up your strategy and vibe if you wolf back to back. Staying the same is the easiest way to get poached.

This just feels over done.

Ready to crack open the next viable misyeet.

letting am hash out another possible misyeet to jump on.


I appreciate all of true’s kindness and jokes so I feel bad about laying all this out, but in retrospect I think some of this encouragement are just attempts to pocket me and he’s actually a Benedict Arnold.
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zuriburi said:
Not sure i want to explain that to a wolf right now, because I’m interested in how they might react to this argument Tbh. Would love to her any answers you have to any of the non joke allegations
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Yeah gonna second it's important to have your wolf reads said and explained. Very rare exceptions to this rule exist.
 
SportPonies said:
He was in my POE, but zuri is putting forth a massive effort that would surprise me from a first time wolf.

Not that I guess anyone else was really still wolf reading him.
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I agree, this feels much more like "new villager thinks he's caught him one" than "new wolf is going ham trying to get a misyeet."

Remember my ISO/push of you during Bowwling? Similar energy, just moreso.
 
zuriburi said:
And I’m sorry to say that the thing that gives True away is the egg joke. Because he’s claiming to miss my vote, and the record shows that he did not in fact miss my vote.

I went back and checked the history of my reacts.
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i don't think this is the smoking gun you seem to think it is. if you write a wall of text and bury a vote in it, it's very possible to react to part of that text and not realize there was a vote in it
 
SportPonies said:
It’s not a matter of whether you’ve been talking about the game outside the game. It’s just bad play to answer for someone else when they’re getting pointed questions aimed at them.
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Yes to second the point for fluff and zuri's sake, if it's a wolf being interrogated having a villager rush in and offer a villager's perspective and understanding can be a major load off the wolf, who is given a reprieve from needing to invent lies. This is why you see us talking about this "rule" of WW.

When I am wolfing it's one of my favorite things that villagers do for me. So I know just how useful it can be and how much I secretly rejoice at it. So yeah, don't want to help the wolves this way.
 
Truenamer said:
I agree, this feels much more like "new villager thinks he's caught him one" than "new wolf is going ham trying to get a misyeet."

Remember my ISO/push of you during Bowwling? Similar energy, just moreso.
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Do I remember anything, True

I only remember trauma. And being mad at Dubz. Like usual.
 
Ok, so @Truenamer and also to respond to @samac 's request for a simpler breakdown, the biggest one for me is the one I maybe overdramatically laid out over too many posts and screenshots, but that we have this timeline:

  • 8:26 you care react to zenge's post calling you a good egg
  • 8:27 you hmm react my post calling out zenge's post for potential pocketing. You also react to several posts responding to my vote and my responses to those responses.
  • 8:30 you enter just having caught up on wolf chat and risk a joke about it.
  • 8:32 you yeet zenge, spelling out that it was part of a thought process from reading the thread :"I was going to go for a salt yeet but after reading I have a better one: Yeet Zenge"
  • 8:58 you care react to zenge's truey pls.
  • 9:06 you say "don't worry i'm still in the lead" start to soften the impact of your vote
  • 9:08 zenge warns numbers is villains
  • 9:13 you say
    "Ah, missed Zuri's vote.

    Eggcellent, pressure works better when there's real pressure."

Is it possible this is an honest sequence of events? yes. It would likely mean that when truenamer just kinda forgot about my vote when tallying after getting distracted with a meeting. But to me this (maybe egotistically) reads like a wolf realizing that the impulse misyeet train he decided to push after reading my post might actually have some traction and so if he's going to be able to look ok later he'll have to start softening how serious his involvement and insist it was all a reaction test vote and you didn't even realize that it put zenge in the lead....
 
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