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Wiz since you're on, check your PMs. Have some third grade chem questions for you...
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Anybody else have no motivation to study for this test tomorrow? I think I'm suffering from severe burnout here.
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My motivation is in the excel spreadsheet leon put out last week...
Oh, and knowing that all I have to do tomorrow is take the damn thing, zap a few ARS questions, split a head open, and then it's turkey time.
Or time to make a heroic attempt to catch up on TBIII.
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i watched 7 hours of college football yesterday and then went and ate sushi. i didnt start studying until 9 last night so ive got a lot to do today. but yet i still keep finding my way back to the internet. oh and i just read the notegroups over the PI turnover pathway. wtf???
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Hey, guys, I just discovered this thread, and I am hoping to solicit advice and information.
I'll be interviewing on November 29th, and I am wondering if I am going to be SOL for an early acceptance. Are most of the seats filled by now and they are padding the waitlist, or are there still quite a few slots open? I know that I have several friends who have already gotten their acceptance letters... seems like it is filling up fast.
Also, I have done the pre-med committee interview, but that is the only panel interview that I have ever experienced. Does anyone have any good advice? I have only had one interview so far which was at UTSW, but I did not get a good vibe. Those interviews were one on one and somewhat surreal. I have heard that the MS4s on the panel are usually the biggest ball busters.. any truth to that?
Also, I was wondering what distinguishes OU as far as you are aware. Anything unique about the curriculum? Any early clinical exposure? Are there some unique specialties that OU is known for? I know the Sultan of Brunei came here for a procedure once.
Anything that you wish that you had known going into the whole interview/matriculation process?
Sorry for the barrage of questions. Feel free to address any of the above, and I'll be grateful for the response.
I'll be interviewing on November 29th, and I am wondering if I am going to be SOL for an early acceptance. Are most of the seats filled by now and they are padding the waitlist, or are there still quite a few slots open? I know that I have several friends who have already gotten their acceptance letters... seems like it is filling up fast.
Also, I have done the pre-med committee interview, but that is the only panel interview that I have ever experienced. Does anyone have any good advice? I have only had one interview so far which was at UTSW, but I did not get a good vibe. Those interviews were one on one and somewhat surreal. I have heard that the MS4s on the panel are usually the biggest ball busters.. any truth to that?
Also, I was wondering what distinguishes OU as far as you are aware. Anything unique about the curriculum? Any early clinical exposure? Are there some unique specialties that OU is known for? I know the Sultan of Brunei came here for a procedure once.
Anything that you wish that you had known going into the whole interview/matriculation process?
Sorry for the barrage of questions. Feel free to address any of the above, and I'll be grateful for the response.
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Hi, congrats on the interview! Since they're doing things so differently this year, I don't know if any of us can really commit on your chances based on various interview dates -- last year, they didn't even start interviewing until late November. I think at any interview point, though, you have a pretty good chance, so it's not like you're interviewing for the waitlist or anything depressing like that.
As for what makes OU special, the biggest plus for you will probably be that it's cheap. 🙂 We do get early clinical exposure, which is good. In the first year, we do three physician preceptorships (sp), which consist of either doing an overnight rotation or following a physician once a week for five weeks.
I think the big curriculum advantage/disadvantage is test blocks. Overall, I like them, but I could see why you would hate them. They're stressful, but they sort of force you to keep up more than you might otherwise, and the week after test block is pretty nice. 🙂 Other than that, we do have some minimal pbl, which imo is largely a waste of time. Everything else is your traditional lecture-based memorize tons of stuff (you know, typical medical school). The big plus of this is that you generally don't have to go to class -- notegroups supplies notes and mp3s for every lecture hour, and most professors most their powerpoints online.
On yeah, we have letter grading, which can be a negative, but in reality, I don't think it's different from schools with high pass/pass/low pass setups. Straight pass/fail would be great, but that seems to be limited to the really top schools. On a positive note, we don't have a curve, so you're not really in direct competition with your classmates for grades. Also, no one really seems to act overly competitive -- people seem willing to share their information and help out other students.
As for what we're good at, I think OU is your typical state school that's designed to meet the needs of its state citizens. We have some research going on, but not a ton. I doubt it would be hard to find research opportunities if you want to, partially because lots of students here don't seem that interested in research. A little less than 50% of OU grads go into primary care specialties (including people who go into IM who might do a fellowship and specialize). We seem to always have a few people who get the super competitive specialties like derm and ophthal, but most of the non-primary care people seem to go into things like anesthesiology, em and surgery. In sum, we're not the most prestigious school out there, but you can probably get where you want to be from going here.
If you could let us know what other schools you're considering, we might be able to give you more focused answers about OU's strengths and weaknesses. Good luck on the interview!
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From my old cell bio book:
"Inositol triphosphate is water-soluble and quickly diffuses through the cytosol, binding to a ligand-gated calcium channel known as the InsP3 receptor channel in the ER. When InsP3 binds, the channel opens, releasing calcium ions into the cytosol. Calcium then bind to a protein known as calmodulin, and the calcium-calmodulin complex activates the desired physiological process.
The DAG generated by phopholipase C activity remains in the membrane, where it activates the enzyme protein kinase C (PKC). This enzyme can then phosphorylate specific serine and threonine groups on a variety of target proteins, depending on the cell type."
"Most calmodulin-binding proteins are enzymes such as protein kinases and protein phosphatases. The response of a target cell to an increase in calcium concentration depends on the particular calmodulin-binding proteins that are present in the cell."
"Inositol triphosphate is water-soluble and quickly diffuses through the cytosol, binding to a ligand-gated calcium channel known as the InsP3 receptor channel in the ER. When InsP3 binds, the channel opens, releasing calcium ions into the cytosol. Calcium then bind to a protein known as calmodulin, and the calcium-calmodulin complex activates the desired physiological process.
The DAG generated by phopholipase C activity remains in the membrane, where it activates the enzyme protein kinase C (PKC). This enzyme can then phosphorylate specific serine and threonine groups on a variety of target proteins, depending on the cell type."
"Most calmodulin-binding proteins are enzymes such as protein kinases and protein phosphatases. The response of a target cell to an increase in calcium concentration depends on the particular calmodulin-binding proteins that are present in the cell."
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That still doesn't answer the "why do I care?" question. 🙂 What are these "desired physiological" processes? What gets screwed up when these things don't work properly? Hence my total lack of interest in Steinberg's material.
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"Most calmodulin-binding proteins are enzymes such as PKs and protein phosphatases. The response of a target cell to an increase in calcium concentrations depends on the particular calmodulin-binding proteins that are present in the cell. This means that the same change in calcium concentration can produce markedly different effects in two target cells if each possesses different calmodulin-sensitive enzyme systems."
The system is different depending on the tissue. I don't like how Steinberg doesn't give context for his stuff. It makes it very difficult to learn. I remember being extremely interested in this exact same material in Cell bio, but hearing him talk about it makes me want to stick a knife in my throat.
The system is different depending on the tissue. I don't like how Steinberg doesn't give context for his stuff. It makes it very difficult to learn. I remember being extremely interested in this exact same material in Cell bio, but hearing him talk about it makes me want to stick a knife in my throat.
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Another thing I don't like is that even if I learn the concepts of how it works which I really enjoy doing, I will miss a question because I don't memorize what follows what in some inane little pathway. These kind of questions bug me because they don't demonstrate understanding, just that you spent hours memorizing the order of something. When I see something that I don't know about I look it up and learn about it, then I come back realize I read one sentence in the syllabus and spent an hour trying to completely understand it. If only I had a few hundred more hours.
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What distinguished OU from other schools for me? The acceptance letter.. lol jk
If you got an interview in Dallas oos, then I'd say that you have an excellent chance of getting in here with a scholarship offer. The Texas schools are cheaper, and I'm told that they will get you in-state tuition if accepted; but I also heard that UTSW is using URM status as a positive effector this year.
exlaw gave you some pretty good answers. She and I literally almost butted heads over an artery the other day, but I would second most of what she wrote. We do a little bit of PBL and integrated learning, but it hardly factors into how we are evaluated.
We have a couple of faculty who have written books and/or been course directors since the 70's, and as a result, they have kept the curriculum mostly traditional. OUHSC has strong centers in glycobiology and ophthamology (Dean McGee is a top ten facility nationally and draws residents from the northeast), but this won't have a huge effect on your medical education. OU Medical Center is privately owned by HCA and is only affiliated with the school by buying the rights to its name and serving as our primary teaching hospital. Every university hospital will have had a famous or rich person treated there, it's just that privacy laws keep us from knowing about it. The sultan story is cute because apparently they tried to give gold watches to the hospital staff and so forth, but I don't think that he would have gotten better or worse care had he gone to another hospital.
If something sounds like an odd marketing ploy ANYWHERE you go, it is. It's like Boren talking about how the museum has some expensive artwork. This affects education how? Seriously, think about where you might want to practice and what specialty interests you. Here at OU, I believe that all of the resources are provided to us to excel on the step 1 just like every other accredited medical school. I actually preferred the traditional curriculum over some of the other schools I visited, and when added to the prospect of me keeping my job at the hospital (with parking, meal discounts, and a per diem wage), it was the best option for me.
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All I've got to say is that was the largest vertebral artery I've ever seen. Admittedly, I've only seen like three of them, but still.
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I think that's what got it nominated as "the one". I'd love to be a fly on the wall when they open everything up to pick stuff out. "OOOO!! OOOO!! Come look at this one! Where's a tag?"
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Especially since then you would already know what they had tagged... dirty cheater... 😀
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No chit.
I wrote down external carotid at first for the vert art. (seriously) lol
I was sure that one was the chordae tympani (#13)... I have no clue what it was if not that...everyone I talked to said they found the chordae tympani on a body so I thought I was good to go.
Then someone mentioned finding the parotid duct...and I was like "There was a parotid duct? **** !" I thought it was the buccal br of the trigeminal n. Oh well.
This was my highest score on a practical so far...a B- haha
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I heard some people debating whether something was the nerve or artery to mylohoid, and I had no clue that there was anything even remotely close to that tagged. Who knows what I was thinking when I looked at it. Oh well.
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a) no one really knows how they are handing out acceptances this year since they have changed the format they use to interview applicants. my best guess is that those who would have interviewed first in the past (high mcat, high gpa) are getting acceptances and anyone borderline is being deferred until all apps are in and have been reviewed. if you have the bio to get an interview oos at utsw then i would say you will have a good chance to get an an acceptance shortly after you interview (as long as you arent an a$$). but again we really dont know how things are working out this year.
b) read the interview feedback from previous years here for ou to prepare for any difficult questions they may throw at you. i am not a fan of the panel, i preferred 1-on-1 interviews, but really just know your app, why you want to go into medicine, etc. and you should be ok.
c) oklahoma is a good state school like most other state schools across the nation. for most people its benefits are location (close to family) and cost. the students are helpful and i think the atmosphere is pretty relaxed (i mean its medical school so its still high stress, but it could be worse). utsw was my first choice last year, but i was waitlisted. i am pretty sure that i am a lot happier here than i would be there. but given the difference in cost (utsw is about 10k less per year) if you get in there you should go. the only knock on the school is that it is really hard and competitive, so you have to dig that kind of environment to be happy there.
do read through the interview feedback though bc the ethical/moral questions they ask are pretty much to the same every year so its a good idea to have some pre-formulated answers.
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table 3. it was the nerve to the mylohyoid. little bitty thing branching off some other nerve (biochem has entered my brain and i forgot anatomy). anyway the only reason i got it was bc that was my cadaver and chung and odon commented on how pretty our nerve to the mylohyoid was so i knew it would be tagged on our cadaver.
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Asking what draws your interviewers to OU or what they think makes OU unique is a good question to ask your interviewers at the end.
First wave acceptances went out on the 2nd of November which included September and October interviewees. Don't worry about the people with acceptances; A few will withdraw or reject for other schools. Now, I think the timeline for a response will probably be a week or two? That is just my guess though because of the way it worked in the past. Whether they grill you hard or not is ultimately up to how well you've prepared and a little luck.
http://medicine.ouhsc.edu/admissions/ - Check this link. It is out of date as of this post.
Good luck to you on the 29th and prepare well. Having the pre-medical interview and one other interview under your belt helps you a lot - just reflect on what you can improve upon.
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Fo' sho'. My PAC interview at OSU was harder than my interview here, and it was a cinch. However, keep in my mind 2 things: I did more board-interviews in the Army than I care to remember, so that style is my wheelhouse. Also, not everyone was "comfortable". But I remember people that looked like 3-legged cats trying to bury turds on a frozen pond when they came out, and they're here now. Just prepare for the q's you know are coming, think before you speak, be yourself (mostly). Spread out the eye contact. Practice your handshake. Say thank you.
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Admissions Updates
(updated 10/24/06)
Applications Received: 1328
Interviews
Offered: 145
Remaining: 105
Admissions
Offers made: 74
Even though it says last updated 10/24, it really was updated today b/c they didn't have that offers made section filled out until today. So, there ya go guys. That's how we stand.
Sooo much more comforting to know that I'm one of those 145 with an offered interview than one of those needing to squeeze into the remaining 105. Think happy thoughts.
(updated 10/24/06)
Applications Received: 1328
Interviews
Offered: 145
Remaining: 105
Admissions
Offers made: 74
Even though it says last updated 10/24, it really was updated today b/c they didn't have that offers made section filled out until today. So, there ya go guys. That's how we stand.
Sooo much more comforting to know that I'm one of those 145 with an offered interview than one of those needing to squeeze into the remaining 105. Think happy thoughts.
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So, it looks like 74/77 people were accepted from the early application pool! That is so awesome and encouraging for the early applicants next year! So it looks like they have offered a total of 68 interviews so far (excluding the early applicants)! I'm w/ you JWax...it does feel good to be one of the first groups interviewing! 👍
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is your avatar matisse?
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Man it totally sux that every exam there's always some assmonkey who doesn't show and 160 of us have to wait days to find out our friggin score.
I want to know if I scored a 40% or a 45%!!!!!!!👎
We should start a section on hippocrates:
"Block I Assmonkey"
"Block II Assmonkey"
etc...and put their pictures on there
I want to know if I scored a 40% or a 45%!!!!!!!👎
We should start a section on hippocrates:
"Block I Assmonkey"
"Block II Assmonkey"
etc...and put their pictures on there
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Dude, I guess I'm out of luck! I am just gonna have to show that I got soul, you know what I'm sayin'? Peace,yo.
Thanks for the info Benoit...I was just going off of the old info from the OUHSC admissions website.
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What I don't get is why they can't reshuffle the questions for the people who missed the test. Or they could go ahead and post our scantron grades. Supposedly we'll have to wait until after Thanksgiving for biochem because at least one person isn't taking the test until then.
Lol, I admit to having some irritation towards the people who miss the tests. That one guy with biochem last time had already dropped out, and I guess just hadn't made it official yet. So we had to wait an extra day for some guy who wouldn't take the test anyway.
Speaking of which, we are down 3 people so far. Is that normal? 🙁
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there are 3 in our mod that were 2009ers, but they weren't all out this early...
And not all directly academic, I might add.
And not all directly academic, I might add.
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3 people dropped out?
Wow...I had no idea...who was it? PM me their names if you know them.
Damn...now I can't look at the grade charts and feel good about those three people with lower scores than mine 😡
Wow...I had no idea...who was it? PM me their names if you know them.
Damn...now I can't look at the grade charts and feel good about those three people with lower scores than mine 😡
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Yeah, there are some folks who had some unforeseen circumstances arise. I think that about 8-10 students were originally admitted the previous cycle.
I'm also not fond with the way they make up the composite that they put on Hippocrates. They decided to do the white coat thing this year for the first time, put people who had their ID photos taken long ago as staff (like myself) or previous HSC students stand out. I probably wouldn't care, but it seems like everybody I know uses it to stalk. I have much better stalker-friendly photos.
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Yeah, I heard somewhere that we had 10 or so people from the class of 2009 with us. I told my brother that (2000 grad), and he seemed shocked that it was such a large number. Are more people in general remediating?
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I'm sure they had really great reasons for dropping out and all....
But it still PISSES ME OFF that they got accepted and just f***ing quit. I know for damn sure that 3 more people on the waitlist would have been thrilled to have taken their spots.
That is my attitude towards them.Now, watch me end up dropping out........ that would be ironic, yes?
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I'm sure they had really great reasons for dropping out and all....
But it still PISSES ME OFF that they got accepted and just f***ing quit. I know for damn sure that 3 more people on the waitlist would have been thrilled to have taken their spots.
Now, watch me end up dropping out........ that would be ironic, yes?
Yeah, I can see why you feel that way. Adcoms don't always make the right decisions. I think some medical issues might be going on with our current drop outs, though, and you can't really control that.
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I've been listening to Weigel's lectures on diseases of glycoconjugate metab...
and afterwards I can't remember any of it. It's not that it's complicated, it just like a story that never really goes anywhere....or a movie where you never get into it.
i just need some turkey and stuffing. 👍
and afterwards I can't remember any of it. It's not that it's complicated, it just like a story that never really goes anywhere....or a movie where you never get into it.
i just need some turkey and stuffing. 👍
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That just goes to show you how difficult it is to put together a class. 😉
Like someone already mentioned, though, remediations and attrition can't all be attributed to academic performance.
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So what do you guys think our important class meeting is about? It sounds sort of ominous. 
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So what do you guys think our important class meeting is about? It sounds sort of ominous.
No kidding.
Kinda has me worried...it can't be good.
It was CC'd to Dr. Chung and Odon, so I wonder if it's related to anatomy class.
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Yeah, I think you're right with can't be good and having something to do with anatomy.
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So what do you guys think our important class meeting is about? It sounds sort of ominous.
sounds very ominous. it looks like it involves anatomy though.
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Dr. Chung always flips me off when we pass in the hall.
He actually punched me in the gut once and made me hurl
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I am hoping some one knows what dates the interviews are on this year. I'm hoping they have some january or february interview dates. The reason is ou will not recieve my amcas for about a month. For an explanation it's on another thread.
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=341553
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=341553
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