OMFS MD general surgery year question

[java1]

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I was looking at the USC OMFS program website and found out that for the 6 year program the general surgery year is a separate application and match process, and could be completed anywhere in the country depending on the match. What would happen if the resident didn't match?? Are there any other OMFS programs that do the same thing? I have not seen this for any other program (the ones I am researching).
Also USC has 1-4 yr position and 2-6 yr but only one PASS entry, so how would one specify if they are applying for 4 or 6, or do they fill the 6 year spots before they fill the 4 year?
Thanks in advance for your time.

 

[shabu2]

On a side note, is there anyone who knows if you CAN do a gen surg year away from your program? That sounds kinda interesting.

 

[ItsGavinC]

I'm obviously not qualified to give any good info on this, but I've never heard of this possibility from any OMFS resident that has ever posted on SDN.

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

On a side note, is there anyone who knows if you CAN do a gen surg year away from your program? That sounds kinda interesting.

The Australian/New Zealand OMS training program which is overseen by the RACDS allows their trainees to do 1-2 of their training years in another accredited OMS dept if they wish.

The RACDS (OMS) is analogous to the ABOMS.

There are accredited OMS training positions (accredited residency spots) in many hospitals in Australia and New Zealand. The OMS board at the RACDS oversees the structure of the overall OMS training program in both Australia and New Zealand. When you finish your residency training program you then sit for your final exams (Final Fellowship exams of the RACDS (OMS) which is the same as becoming board certified in the US).

Afterwards if you pass these final exams you may use the post-nominals "FRACDS (OMS)"

Example: Gary Bouloux, DDS, MD, MDSc, FRACDS (OMS)
Emory Professor of Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery

Anyways... the RACDS allows Australian and New Zealand OMS residents to apply a year in advance if they desire to do a year in a different OMS dept. For example... If I was based in Sydney and I wanted to get more craniofacial experience I may want to apply to do one of my training years in Melbourne, or if I was in Melbourne and I wanted more H/N experience I might apply to do a year in Sydney... etc. Since all the positions are accredited spots which are standardised... if you are a pgy3, as long as there was an open pgy4 spot where you wanted to go, or if they were willing to do a 1 for 1 switch.. then it works out well.

Aus/NZ OMS training is currently 5-years (not including years spent in medical school which is usually 2.5-3 years).. for a total of 8 years. (btw: didn't UCSF OMS under Pogrel used to be 7-8 years long?)

I think its great that they allow this flexibility in the training program as it allows you to tailor your training a bit and also if your spouse were to get a job somewhere else.. having this option could also help out.

I haven't heard of this sort of flexibility in any of the US programs... It would be interesting to find out if USC is allowing something like this. Keep us updated. 👍

by the way shabu2, how are you enjoying your program?

 

[shabu2]

Med school rocks. Program is super busy and scope is great. No regrets here. Hope all is well.

 

[libre]

USC OMFS: back in the day, residents used to be able to apply out for g-surg prelim year (cedars, harbor ucla, huntington, etc). the g-surg year has been moved to USC (mandatory) which is great b/c its 8 months of gen-surg and 4 months of omfs. i am in my prelim g-surg internship now and had to apply but it was a guaranteed spot through our program. hope this helps.