Online sham IQ test?

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Biffer

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umm, I may have greater reason to worry beyond avg ivy gpa as I've just taken an online IQ test (very bored here) and scored very low--around 100.. This is the national average. What surprises me most is that I've taken valid IQ tests in the past and have scored in the 133+ range consistently. The test didn't seem difficult and wasn't geared towards exceptional IQ folks (ie mega society et al) I thought IQ was a stable trait over one's lifetime w. some rare exceptions... I have to believe this test is a sham otherwise I will rescind my med school applications and become a recluse.

in fun, try this test and let me know how you fare,
biffer
 
I would not worry too much, it's only a single test with very few questions. Since I'm at work (and bored) I took it, it only rated me a 115. Granted, I didn't put a whole lot of effort into it, but the "serious"(*laugh*) IQ tests I've taken have always put me in the mid 150's.

You could probably extropolate that to mean, just add 40 points to what you get... viola 😀
 
I guess I scored as I always do. The test only goes to 144, although I doubt it is accurate up that far.

At one time it was thought that IQ was stagnant, however, I read some thing a few months ago that they are finding that varies and can change throughout one's life. Certain people are born with more natural ability than others and I believe people have different maximum potentials, but I do believe that it varies.

But geez, I don't think IQ tests really do that good of a job about predicting future success in med school. At most they may predict your ability to succeed in Elementary - High School, which is what they were originally intended for. However, they do not measure determination and motivation, the most important factors in predicticting success.
 
Yeah, something is up with that test, buddy. It's not just you. AND, there are only 30 questions... hmm...
 
hmm since im bored i guess ill take it...
 
Originally posted by Biffer
umm, I may have greater reason to worry beyond avg ivy gpa as I've just taken an online IQ test (very bored here) and scored very low--around 100.. This is the national average. What surprises me most is that I've taken valid IQ tests in the past and have scored in the 133+ range consistently. The test didn't seem difficult and wasn't geared towards exceptional IQ folks (ie mega society et al) I thought IQ was a stable trait over one's lifetime w. some rare exceptions... I have to believe this test is a sham otherwise I will rescind my med school applications and become a recluse.

in fun, try this test and let me know how you fare,
biffer

Is it the emode test? Everyone scores between 130-140 on that for some reason. I think 135 in the mode score.

Its not a real IQ test at all, just a moneymaking scam to get people to buy their full IQ report.
 
nah---I've took emode a few months ago and have scored in the range you described--maybe not the most accurate test but a hell of a lot better than the link I posted.
 
IQ test are a sham! They are culturally biased tests created to show that Irish immigrants were "less intelligent" that Anglo-Saxon Protestants. So I just take those sorts of thing with a grain of salt 🙂.
 
oops! i didn't bother with reading directions and i took a leak in the middle of it costing me time. i still pulled a 116. normally i end up right around 140 or so. it seemed like it was pretty accurate though.
 
as my brother once said to his friend: 'yeah, the act is biased, against stupid people.'
 
I dont think its a very good test as I scored ~30 points lower than I did when I took a real iq test in HS (and the HS score was ~ the same as all the other tests i have takemn).
 
Seriously, I wouldnt trust ANY online IQ test, most of them are just trying to make money. If you really really have to know, Id just buy a 5-10$ book from Barnes and take the IQ test contained. Sometimes psych depts. will pay you to take them in conjunction with some other test as well (trying to relate IQ to some other trait, which I personally think is dumb).
 
Originally posted by Gleevec
Seriously, I wouldnt trust ANY online IQ test, most of them are just trying to make money. If you really really have to know, Id just buy a 5-10$ book from Barnes and take the IQ test contained. Sometimes psych depts. will pay you to take them in conjunction with some other test as well (trying to relate IQ to some other trait, which I personally think is dumb).

What? Gleevec, it's important to note the positive correlation between IQ score and rectal grip strength!

~AS1~
 
I went to : http://highiqsociety.com/ but it asked if I wanted java or standard html, couldn't decide so I stared at the screen until the screensaver went active.

I tried to go to meensa.org, minsea.org, meinsa.org, m...org, but had trouble spelling it....

Oh well, maybe next time....
:laugh:

Couldn't resist, I'm sitting at work, bored between calls.
 
'yeah, the act is biased, against stupid people.'

dude... regardless of a little15sec wee you got a 116, thats only 7 pts higher than my score and I managed a complete disposal w. sordid romance novella in hand, ha! Plenty of time bro bro, stupid says what?

jokey,
biff (not a teenage girl)
 
i got a 128, and they said it was the 99th percentile. i think the scale is somewhat different than other scales, i.e. the limit of 144 (probably because it can't be reliable beyond >3 SD's above the mean), and is probably too short to be generally reliable
 
Originally posted by Biffer
dude... regardless of a little15sec wee you got a 116, thats only 7 pts higher than my score and I managed a complete disposal w. sordid romance novella in hand, ha! Plenty of time bro bro, stupid says what?

jokey,
biff (not a teenage girl)

you made bears and still got a 109, not too shabby. people who can manipulate shapes in their head are at a distinct advantage in any iq test.
 
Originally posted by Herpeto
Become a member of Mensa or the International High IQ Society and list it on your application. Enjoy the informative links below. The last link details specific information about the intelligence quotient and how tests were developed to measure it.

Dude, the International High IQ Society is a scam. They let people take the tests as many times as they want to, which means that anyone can retake until they get a high enough score. If a person actually has a high enough IQ to get into High IQ society, they probably have a high enough IQ to get into Mensa. I can't imagine that anyone would actually choose to join High IQ Society if they were able to get into Mensa. High IQ Society makes you pay $60 for access to their website (uh....) and to be allowed to publish in their silly newsletter. I've read the newsletter, and it's pathetic. They'll publish absolutely anything a member sends in, and it's all people's opinions on why they're superior to everyone else, and other such drivel. Also, if you check out the credentials of the creators of the test here , you'll find that none of them actually know how to make a valid IQ test. Their credentials all say things like:

Bob Carney (United States): Mr. Carney has a Master's Degree of Management from Northwestern University. He now works as Chief Financial Officer for Biocentric Solutions Incorporated, a high-tech applied biometric-identification enterprise specializing in hardware and software solutions for identity verification via fingerprints. He is a member of Mensa and the Triple Nine Society, and is an especially active member of Paul Cooijmans' Glia Society.

Yeah, Bob Carney obviously has a high IQ, but does he have any clue of how to create an IQ test? Do any of them? When I took their tests, my scores ranged from below average to above the cut off. That just doesn't seem right.
 
Mensa is a joke as well my friend. Although they use standardized exams, their organization is full of many self-deifying individuals. Instead of utilizing the talents they were given, they spend their days mentally masturbating via puzzles and games. It is a shame that the organization doesn't do more to help society.

Herp
 
While it may be a joke, Mensa is actually a social club. High IQ Society is just a scheme to make money off of people who want to be able to tell others that they have a high IQ. I can actually understand why someone would want to join a club to hang out with other people that have something in common with them. If I saw High IQ Society on someone's application (for anything....I'm not an ADCOM member), I would laugh.
 
I would question the character of any individual who associated himself or herself with either Mensa or High IQ Society. It is easy to attain membership into either organization. Unlike High IQ Society however, you must take the IQ test under timed and supervised conditions. With Mensa you have the option of purchasing their home self-IQ tests for $18. You then need to pay another nominal fee for them to score the exam. This gives you an idea of whether you would be a viable candidate. Then you can pay another $30 to take the test in your area. The requirements don't seem that rigorous as on most IQ tests one only need to attain a 130-132 (excluding the Cattell exam). As an alternative, you can join by providing prior evidence of exam scores. For instance, the scores below will allow entrance into the supposed top 2% club. Well, I guarantee there are hundreds of people alone on SDN alone that could join Mensa based upon these prior scores. Mensa also charges membership fees and is money making machine.

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SAT or CEEB scored prior to 9/30/74 1300
scored from 9/30/74 through 1/31/94 1250
scored after 1/31/94 N/A

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LSAT prior to 1982 662
1982 through 5/91 39
Effective 6/91 163

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GRE prior to 5/94 (math + verbal) 1250
scored from 5/94 to 9/01 (math + verbal + analytic) 1875
Effective 10/01 N/A




Herp
 
Took the test. Scored 129. On other tests I had scored much better. Any ways ... 129 is not bad for a dodo.😉
 
Originally posted by dodo2
Took the test. Scored 129. On other tests I had scored much better. Any ways ... 129 is not bad for a dodo.😉

I thought you were extinct?

Did hunting your kind exert evoluntionary pressure to create a race of super-intelligent birds?
 
AAARGH! Got my emode IQ test scores back...I never trusted stupid online IQ tests...

***************
Your IQ score is 78

This number is the result of a formula based on how many questions you answered correctly on Emode's Ultimate IQ test. Your IQ score is scientifically accurate; to read more about the science behind our IQ test, click here.

During the test, you answered four different types of questions ? mathematical, visual-spatial, linguistic and logical. We analyzed how you did on each of those questions which reveals how your brain uniquely works.

We also compared your answers with others who have taken the test, and according to the sorts of questions you got correct, we can tell your Intellectual Type is Mildly ******ed.

This means you are below average ? both in pictures and in numbers. These liabilities combined with your overall sub-optimal performance make it difficult for you to understand the big picture, which is why people do not trust your instincts and turn to others for direction ? especially in the workplace. And that's just some of what we know about you from your test results.
 
Well, I finally whipped out my credit card and bought the full, 15-page Emode IQ report (page 1 pasted below)

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Congratulations on purchasing the detailed version of your Emode IQ report!!!

Your IQ score is: 78
Your IQ score of 78 places you in the 10th percentile of all people! This means that of 100 people you meet every day, you are smarter than 9 of them!!!

Our personality software has analyzed your answers and found that:
Your personality type is: Mildly ******ed

According to our Occupational Strength Assessment (OSA) Program (TM) [see page 5], your intellectual and personality profile is suited for an exciting career in the following profession: Food service/Sanitation

Since you may not have been familiar with the format of the computer based IQ test the first time you took it, for an additional 34.95$ (billed to your credit card ending in: 0852), you can log in to emode.com and retake the same IQ test that you just took. Furthermore, we will send you a "Certificate of IQ Authenticity", suitable for framing to let everyone know your impressive IQ results!!!

Note: It is strongly advised that you review pages 11-13 of this report (Detailed Answers and Explanations to the Emode Ultimate IQ Test(TM)) before you retake the test. The average score increase is 30-50 points!!!

Thank you once again for purchasing the Emode Ultimate IQ test full report, and be sure to look at the next 14 pages for important information about your score.

Have a nice day!!!
 
Nice test. 😕 I like how you get to retake it (after paying them). Nothing like practice for increasing IQ scores, eh? Getting to retake the exact same test definitely says a lot about the test's validity too.... 😉
 
im more amazed at the fact that you paid the 15 dollars to get the full report! 😀
 
ttac,
mildly ******ed? I'm surprised, would think they'd have more tact. Please tell me this is an elaborate ruse
 
That test said I was at 142, but I wouldn't put any weight on that.

Probably should add forty points like someone suggested. (kidding!)

Mensa is for wankers. If you want to prove how smart you are, go do something meaningful in research or academia.
 
Originally posted by ttac
Note: It is strongly advised that you review pages 11-13 of this report (Detailed Answers and Explanations to the Emode Ultimate IQ Test(TM)) before you retake the test. The average score increase is 30-50 points!!!

Now, this is just sad.
 
I remember my psychology teacher saying something about how your IQ can't be accurately tested once you are over the age of 8. Has anyone else heard this?
 
Originally posted by Optimist
Holy crap! That thing is crazy hard.

But rewarding.

Which test did you take? I tried the "Test for Exceptional Intelligence" just for the he11 of it, and lasted about five minutes before I decided that it would take a MUCH more serious effort than I was willing to put in that night...if I could do it at all. 😉 Plus (although this doesn't affect the difficulty of the test but rather its validity), I was a little off-put by the "credentials" of the people who designed the test, as another poster pointed out. I'd like to try it again just to see if I can do it, but I don't know how much stock I'd put in whatever results I'd get.
 
Originally posted by Biffer
ttac,
mildly ******ed? I'm surprised, would think they'd have more tact. Please tell me this is an elaborate ruse

Busted.

I'd never pay any money for an online IQ test or a "detailed score report". I just thought it was funny how nobody posts an IQ less than 100 so I decided to pick a number and be the first... and before you lambast Emode for letting you retake the IQ test for more money, I admit that I made up everything in the second post and copied most of the first post from another online IQ test thread and changed a few words. I'm just trying to ensure that people don't take these online tests too seriously. I fell into that trap a while ago, until I realized that work ethic and motivation trump intelligence almost every time.

ttac
 
Nice. Couldn't agree more!
 
even if you had a 45 IQ and it was the truth, would it have any bearing on what you could do? i mean why let numbers dictate what you can and can't do? as most already know, einstein was thought to have been slow-minded because he wouldn't speak much. it has been said that he didn't feel the need to put things into words and that he lived in a largely spatial vs. verbal world. and i do believe that were it not for his amazing spatial abilities he would not have had the insight into mathematics and physics that earned him his reputation as one of the greatest minds of our time.
 
Actually, Einstein's IQ was far above average... I have read estimates that it was in the 160+ range, however, as the following article states, IQ tests measure thinking speed as a factor, and although Einstein may have thought slowly, he had all the time in the world and that raised his "effective IQ" to 200.

http://www.geocities.com/einstein_library/iq.htm

Check out this link as well:
http://home8.swipnet.se/~w-80790/Index.htm

Anyway, the point of my original statement (IQ is trumped by work ethic) still stands.

This is a really interesting article, but it is long so I will summarize it if you don't care to read all of it:

http://www.eskimo.com/~miyaguch/grady/emptypromise.html

Basically, it says that yes, there are IQ differences between 100 and 130, but the effective difference between 130 and 160 is much less than 100 and 130. If you have someone with an IQ of 130 and a ton of motivation, he or she will almost always surpass a slacker with an IQ of 160 in terms of "real world success".

One snippet from the article:
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The four socially and personally most important most important threshold regions on the IQ scale are those that differentiate with high probability between persons who, because of their level of general mental ability, can or cannot attend a regular school (about IQ 50), can or cannot master the traditional subject matter of elementary school (about IQ 75), can or cannot succeed in the academic or college preparatory curriculum through high school (about IQ 105), can or cannot graduate from an accredited four-year college with grades that would qualify for admission to a professional or graduate school (about IQ 115). beyond this, the IQ level becomes relatively unimportant in terms of ordinary occupational aspirations and criteria of success. That is not to say that there are not real differences between the intellectual capabilities represented by IQs of 115 and 150 or even between IQs of 150 and 180. But IQ differences in this upper part of the scale have far less personal implications than the thresholds just described and are generally of lesser importance for success in the popular sense than are certain traits of personality and character.

The social implications of exceptionally high ability and its interaction with the other factors that make for unusual achievements are considerably greater than the personal implications. The quality of a society's culture is highly determined by the very small fraction of its population that is most exceptionally endowed. The growth of civilization, the development of written language and of mathematics, the great religious and philosophic insights, scientific discoveries, practical inventions, industrial developments, advancements in legal and political systems, and the world's masterpieces of literature, architecture, music and painting, it seems safe to say, are attributable to a rare small proportion of the human population throughout history who undoubtedly possessed, in addition to other important qualities of talent, energy, and imagination, a high level of the essential mental ability measured by tests of intelligence."
 
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