OOS friendly?

[TheBoneDoctah]

What percentage is considered OOS friendly?

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[TheBoneDoctah]

Anyone?

 

[turayza]

Anyone?

I asked something similar a few weeks ago:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/what-is-considered-is-bias.1072333/

 

[mrh125]

Most public schools don't like OOS, look for schools that emphasize state ties (oregon, WA, TX, ND, CO) and dodge the hell out of them. Depending on where you draw the line in terms of percentages depends on your stats. if you're a 30+ mcat you shouldnt be considering the super low % ones unless they're your dream school.

 

[TheBoneDoctah]

Most public schools don't like OOS, look for schools that emphasize state ties (oregon, WA, TX, ND, CO) and dodge the hell out of them. Depending on where you draw the line in terms of percentages depends on your stats. if you're a 30+ mcat you shouldnt be considering the super low % ones unless they're your dream school.

If I'm above 30 I should consider the super low % ones? Huh?

 

[mrh125]

If I'm above 30 I should consider the super low % ones? Huh?

no if you have a 30+ you shouldn't be considering the super low oos %s because you can probably get in elsewhere w/o the risk.

 

[TheBoneDoctah]

no if you have a 30+ you shouldn't be considering the super low oos %s because you can probably get in elsewhere w/o the risk.

Can you check my post In the md thread. I posted my stats and school list.

 

[mrh125]

Can you check my post In the md thread. I posted my stats and school list.

your gpa is a little low, but your mcat score is over a 30, which is great. From looking at your list i'd definitely take off morehouse (only accepts GA residents), north dakota (unless you're native american and have a tribal ID or are in the WISHE program). Ones like marshall and cooper are a bit iffy (both favor IS and cooper is in a very dangerous area) but they're worth a shot if you really really want to. Ones like Howard and meharry are super iffy, unless you're URM or have a really compelling mission to help the underserved, disadvantaged, and minority groups in medicine. You don't really get to be the non-URM at these schools unless your application is super compelling in those regards.

Missouri-kansas - keep in mind that most OOS are from a BS/MD program, so if you're applying as a regular MD you might not have much a chance.

I've been going through the same process as a CA resident and a lower mcat score than you. Also, if you took community college premed prereqs creighton might not be an option because the MSAR says they don't accept CC premed courses. Though creighton's website isn't clear about it. Up to you.

 

[TheBoneDoctah]

your gpa is a little low, but your mcat score is over a 30, which is great. From looking at your list i'd definitely take off morehouse (only accepts GA residents), north dakota (unless you're native american and have a tribal ID or are in the WISHE program). Ones like marshall and cooper are a bit iffy (both favor IS and cooper is in a very dangerous area) but they're worth a shot if you really really want to. Ones like Howard and meharry are super iffy, unless you're URM or have a really compelling mission to help the underserved, disadvantaged, and minority groups in medicine. You don't really get to be the non-URM at these schools unless your application is super compelling in those regards.

Missouri-kansas - keep in mind that most OOS are from a BS/MD program, so if you're applying as a regular MD you might not have much a chance.

I've been going through the same process as a CA resident and a lower mcat score than you. Also, if you took community college premed prereqs creighton might not be an option because the MSAR says they don't accept CC premed courses. Though creighton's website isn't clear about it. Up to you.

On the MSAR it says Morehouse accepted 12/70 OOS last year. Do you have any schools that I don't have that you would add to the list?

 

[mrh125]

On the MSAR it says Morehouse accepted 12/70 OOS last year. Do you have any schools that I don't have that you would add to the list?

the OOS students may have had some other connection to GA or be from bordering states. It's not really worth the risk. I know I wanted to apply to LSU: Shriver and NO because of their deceivingly low admission stats but they're the same way. You have nearly all of the good OOS schools you have a chance at covered. One other tip I have is don't apply to MD schools in Nevada, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, or New Mexico unless you have some sort of state tie. It's tempting to do that as a way of staying on the west coast, but unfortunately it won't work.

 

[Dr Turkelton]

Take out UMKC, it's a 6 year med program that only rarely takes people not from high school, and even then it's just to fill spots from people who've dropped out.

 

[mrh125]

Take out UMKC, it's a 6 year med program that only rarely takes people not from high school, and even then it's just to fill spots from people who've dropped out.

they do have a very limited regular MD program though.

 

[TheBoneDoctah]

they do have a very limited regular MD program though.

So should I apply there or not?

 

[mrh125]

So should I apply there or not?

I wouldn't recommend it. Based off the MSAR like 9 people OOS who arent in the BS/MD program get accepted. Pretty lousy odds if you ask me.

 

[Marine to MD]

Take out UMKC, it's a 6 year med program that only rarely takes people not from high school, and even then it's just to fill spots from people who've dropped out.

Negative. The issue with UMKC is that it is relatively unknown. I was accepted there, out of state, with zero area ties and good but not a rock star app. A good friend of mine also got in, out of state with 0 ties, below avg stats, and accepted early in cycle.

 

[mrh125]

Negative. The issue with UMKC is that it is relatively unknown. I was accepted there, out of state, with zero area ties and good but not a rock star app. A good friend of mine also got in, out of state with 0 ties, below avg stats, and accepted early in cycle.

interesting, do you have any other advice about schools like that to apply to? Know any others?

 

[Marine to MD]

interesting, do you have any other advice about schools like that to apply to? Know any others?

Not really. My buddy was the one who told me to ignore the stigma with UMKC. ..kinda did it half heartedly but was really impressed by the school. Probably would've went but had too many ties to my current area and was accepted locally.

Edit: that buddy is an ms2 there now.

 

[Dr Turkelton]

Negative. The issue with UMKC is that it is relatively unknown. I was accepted there, out of state, with zero area ties and good but not a rock star app. A good friend of mine also got in, out of state with 0 ties, below avg stats, and accepted early in cycle.

I'll take your word for it. I'm from missouri but I guess I don't know much about the program. Do you know how many people they take for the 4 year program?

 

[3rdarmageddon]

VCU is about half OOS (as is UVA, but UVA is much more competitive). I think I remember Stony Brook also being OOS friendly, and their admitted stats are somewhere between VCU and UVA.