osteopathic programs

[HP11]

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I don't find any review of osteopathic programs online. Anyone know anything about these programs. I've interviewed at 2 places so far and got the impression that they tend to be strong in some areas, weak in others. They also tend to HEAVILY favor students that have rotated with them. Let's get some feedback on these programs please, especially the ones NOT in ohio and michigan that are known to be solid.

 

[SOUNDMAN]

I don't find any review of osteopathic programs online. Anyone know anything about these programs. I've interviewed at 2 places so far and got the impression that they tend to be strong in some areas, weak in others. They also tend to HEAVILY favor students that have rotated with them. Let's get some feedback on these programs please, especially the ones NOT in ohio and michigan that are known to be solid.

I've heard that the program in Chicago is real solid. My supervising physician is from there, and he's very good.

 

[Bull's eye]

I don't find any review of osteopathic programs online. Anyone know anything about these programs. I've interviewed at 2 places so far and got the impression that they tend to be strong in some areas, weak in others. They also tend to HEAVILY favor students that have rotated with them. Let's get some feedback on these programs please, especially the ones NOT in ohio and michigan that are known to be solid.

I can only comment on the ones that I rotated at:

Dayton: Pretty solid program, attendings can seem a little malignant, only there for a month, travel to Tampa for trauma not sure where they go for peds. Residents seem cool. Diadactics are good.

Kansas City: Hope you like your car, because they drive a lot. I didn't get a good read on the attendings, because there are so many of them. Operate like crazy, poor didactics, loved the residents. Trauma not in KC. not sure where they go.

St. Louis: Attendings are great, residents are great. Do trauma at SLU, Peds at Cardinal Glennon children's hospital (all in St, Louis). Strong didactics. Operate quite a bit, not as much as KC but still a ton. Get to work with J Tracy Watson, MD, Berton Moed, MD, and Richard Howard, DO. (Check your Rockwood and Green on Tibia fractures, your Master's techniques on the Kocher Lachenbach approach, and your Miller review hand chapter, respectively)
Good luck and enjoy your 4th year

 

[HP11]

Thanks for the replys.

Unfortunately, I did not get an interview at any of those places mentioned. Looks like an audition rotation at an osteopathic program is the surest way of getting an interview. 2-3 spots for most programs, means, tough to match.

I don't like the fact that you'd have to do a lot of driving to get to the hospitals in some of these programs. I think the main drawback to the DO programs is not really the orthopedic part, because, you'll become a good surgeon regardless, but, it's the little things, like the amount of didactics, community type settings and peripheral rotations in other hospitals which require driving.

 

[allendo]

What type of board scores and grades to you have to have to get D.O. ortho?

 

[DOctorJay]

If you scroll down the page a previous post says 90th %ile. Seems low for such a competitive specialty, any input from others?

 

[HP11]

you DON'T need 90% boards for ortho. It's more about rotations as I said. A solid application is more about the complete package, meaning, STRONG letters, maybe research and publications, grades, and I think most important of all, rotation at the site and them liking you. I didn't have board scores in 90% range and I still got interviews.

 

[bonefixr]

I would have to agree with the previous post. Some places, like Des Peres for example, haven't taken anyone under 90Th percentile for the last 10 years or so. But, they only have 1-2 spots/year and have that luxury.

From my experience this year it seems the important thing is rotating there and showing you can do the job. Also, being likable. I don't see many attendings putting up with someone's attitude/ conflicting personality just because they had a higher board score. If they have seen you, can get along, and you have decent numbers to be competitive, then your chances are much higher.

The only interviews I had were at the places I rotated. My board scores and grades were strong, so they must have taken the ones they had seen and knew could do the job.