OU closing down?

[DrRick]

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My good friend is on faculty in OU's Department of Paleontology, and he recently informed me that a topic of frequent discussion in Department Chair and Deans' meetings is the priority closure of the dental school. Budgetary cuts are hitting the institution hard as they are nation wide, with science funding slashed significantly for the '09-'10 fiscal year. The medical school is decreasing their 2010 entering class seats by approximately 30%, and debate is ongoing as to whether the dental school will simply follow suit or go a big step further by actually closing down. Can anyone on campus or with further knowledge on the topic substantiate this? Has it come up in interviews? It seems to be a great dental school but also somewhat of a secret, as I don't see much discussion on it. Any info would be much appreciated.

Dr. Rick... out

 

[njens]

are you talking about oklahoma? or ohio, oregon....?

 

[bebebebebebe]

are you talking about oklahoma? or ohio, oregon....?

That's exactly wat I was thinking! OU?!

 

[War Eagle]

That's exactly wat I was thinking! OU?!

OU=Oklahoma
OHSU=Oregon
tOSU=Ohio State

 

[bebebebebebe]

OU=Oklahoma
OHSU=Oregon
tOSU=Ohio State

thanks😛
Thank god nobody said; " oh u don even know what is OU and u r a predent? hon dont go to dental school cuz u r doomed"

 

[heatwheat]

OU=Oklahoma
OHSU=Oregon
tOSU=Ohio State

👍

 

[dentstd]

My good friend is on faculty in OU's Department of Paleontology, and he recently informed me that a topic of frequent discussion in Department Chair and Deans' meetings is the priority closure of the dental school. Budgetary cuts are hitting the institution hard as they are nation wide, with science funding slashed significantly for the '09-'10 fiscal year. The medical school is decreasing their 2010 entering class seats by approximately 30%, and debate is ongoing as to whether the dental school will simply follow suit or go a big step further by actually closing down. Can anyone on campus or with further knowledge on the topic substantiate this? Has it come up in interviews? It seems to be a great dental school but also somewhat of a secret, as I don't see much discussion on it. Any info would be much appreciated.

Dr. Rick... out

Let's see how this plays out. In the past several decades, it's been the private schools that've been closing. In the current economic slump, the public schools feel it more, because the state government's been cutting funding. The private schools are managing, because they have their own private funding sources, but public schools rely heavily on government funding. I've looked up various public dental schools, and they're all experiencing budget cuts. I hope the public dental schools don't end up closing due to W's failures.

 

[TheGreenWave]

don't end up closing due to W's failures.

Are you really blaming the international economic crisis on one person?

 

[Epictetus21]

Let's see how this plays out. In the past several decades, it's been the private schools that've been closing. In the current economic slump, the public schools feel it more, because the state government's been cutting funding. The private schools are managing, because they have their own private funding sources, but public schools rely heavily on government funding. I've looked up various public dental schools, and they're all experiencing budget cuts. I hope the public dental schools don't end up closing due to W's failures.

Yeah, because it wasn't the Wall Street executives' fault for taking excessive risks on bad loans to people with terrible credit. 🙄 Go take Finance and Econ 101. W's policies had much less to do with the financial collapse than Clinton's programs of encouraging banks to approve everyone and their dog for home loans, regardless of their credit history. There is a reason that people have bad credit scores, and it's not because they aren't nice people, its because they have bad money management skills. Clinton's policy advisers didn't seem to understand that. Sorry to get off topic, but the conclusion to this post was just ******ed.

 

[alanan84]

Are you really blaming the international economic crisis on one person?

Everything bad in the world is Bush's fault.

Oh and Obama's going to fix it all...

 

[bandofoutsiders]

Epic is pretty much spot on. This is coming from a pretty liberal guy here.

I don't think the war has helped the situation either.

 

[DrReo]

Are you really blaming the international economic crisis on one person?

We all know it was Clinton 😀

 

[doc3232]

Everyone stop talking about politics before this thread is locked please.

I actually want to hear about OU.

 

[DrMom]

My good friend is on faculty in OU's Department of Paleontology, and he recently informed me that a topic of frequent discussion in Department Chair and Deans' meetings is the priority closure of the dental school. Budgetary cuts are hitting the institution hard as they are nation wide, with science funding slashed significantly for the '09-'10 fiscal year. The medical school is decreasing their 2010 entering class seats by approximately 30%, and debate is ongoing as to whether the dental school will simply follow suit or go a big step further by actually closing down. Can anyone on campus or with further knowledge on the topic substantiate this? Has it come up in interviews? It seems to be a great dental school but also somewhat of a secret, as I don't see much discussion on it. Any info would be much appreciated.

Dr. Rick... out

I haven't heard anything about either the dental school closing or the medical school cutting class size. In fact, from what has been in the news, the medical school is expanding.

 

[dentstd]

Are you really blaming the international economic crisis on one person?

I blame everything bad in the world on W.

Obama's supposed to make everything go away. Praise the Lord! [does the wave]

 

[dentstd]

Dunno about OU, but here's the UC version:

"Acting on the recommendation of University of California President Mark G. Yudof, the UC Board of Regents today (Jan. 14) approved plans curtailing undergraduate enrollment growth, and freezing the salaries of top administrators and significantly restricting compensation for a large group of senior leadership. The plans, approved via a special teleconference meeting of the Regents, are part of UC's efforts to cope with insufficient state funding for enrollment growth and continuing budget cuts."

"The State of California is in the throes of a dire budget crisis. The current deficit is in excess of $15 billion, and analysts project that the number will reach $40 billion within 18 months unless the Legislature and Governor take remedial actions. In the absence of such actions, the State may be issuing IOUs in lieu of cash payments to its employees and vendors by March 2009."

UCLA and UCSF are feeling some financial woes, but I doubt health program enrollment will be affected first. It's the undergrads that're likely to feel it the greatest, because undergrads...don't save lives. Dentists do *cough, cough* yea!... UCSD, UC Irvine, etc.

 

[eternalxdemon]

Dunno about OU, but here's the UC version:

"Acting on the recommendation of University of California President Mark G. Yudof, the UC Board of Regents today (Jan. 14) approved plans curtailing undergraduate enrollment growth, and freezing the salaries of top administrators and significantly restricting compensation for a large group of senior leadership. The plans, approved via a special teleconference meeting of the Regents, are part of UC’s efforts to cope with insufficient state funding for enrollment growth and continuing budget cuts."

"The State of California is in the throes of a dire budget crisis. The current deficit is in excess of $15 billion, and analysts project that the number will reach $40 billion within 18 months unless the Legislature and Governor take remedial actions. In the absence of such actions, the State may be issuing IOUs in lieu of cash payments to its employees and vendors by March 2009."

UCLA and UCSF are feeling some financial woes, but I doubt health program enrollment will be affected first. It's the undergrads that're likely to feel it the greatest, because undergrads...don't save lives. Dentists do *cough, cough* yea!... UCSD, UC Irvine, etc.

thank god i'm graduating this year from uci... 😎

 

[xhamburgersamx]

It's hard to imagine UC is in such a huge deficit when their endowments are in the billions!

As for OU, finally there is a school that is in worst shape than USC. Woohoo

 

[DROCKINDAHOUSE]

Thank God. Maybe their undergrad will close too that way Texas won't have to play them every year.

Obama IS going to fix everything people.

 

[chund]

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[tikanika]

Everyone stop talking about politics before this thread is locked please.

I actually want to hear about OU.

second that. I actually want ot hear about OU as well 😕

 

[ousooners]

I contacted the oklahoma dental admissions coordinator this afternoon just to verify when classes start because i'm planning a vacation for June. She said everything is set to go for orientation june 29th, with the first day of anatomy june 30th.

I also contacted my dental "mentor" who sits on the OU adcom...he said they've got 56 spots filled for this years class (which is normal...usually have between 56-58 per incoming class). although i didn't come out and ask "is ou dental possbilby closing??" neither of them seemed hesitant or weary about anything.

I really can't forsee anything bad here; the oklahoma economy is still thriving compared to the rest of the country due to oil and gas, and i don't think david boren would allow one of his colleges to close while he's at the helm.

 

[tikanika]

I contacted the oklahoma dental admissions coordinator this afternoon just to verify when classes start because i'm planning a vacation for June. She said everything is set to go for orientation june 29th, with the first day of anatomy june 30th.

I also contacted my dental "mentor" who sits on the OU adcom...he said they've got 56 spots filled for this years class (which is normal...usually have between 56-58 per incoming class). although i didn't come out and ask "is ou dental possbilby closing??" neither of them seemed hesitant or weary about anything.

I really can't forsee anything bad here; the oklahoma economy is still thriving compared to the rest of the country due to oil and gas, and i don't think david boren would allow one of his colleges to close while he's at the helm.

Thank you for the reply. Are you going to be D1 this summer? I am planning to attend as well. PM me if you want to talk about June😉

 

[bvf]

I am a second year at OU. It is not closing down. This is 100% false. OU is in great shape. In fact the school just received a over a million dollar donation to implement a new software scheduling/administrative system in the school. All the clinics are busy every day and we have plenty of faculty to keep things running smoothly.

 

[njens]

I am a second year at OU. It is not closing down. This is 100% false. OU is in great shape. In fact the school just received a over a million dollar donation to implement a new software scheduling/administrative system in the school. All the clinics are busy every day and we have plenty of faculty to keep things running smoothly.

sweet action. that's what i like to hear! thanks....

 

[Emutt]

Glad to hear...I'm getting pumped to go to OU!

 

[xdreammba]

It wouldn't make sense that OU is closing down specially when we need more dentists in regions like Oklahoma or New Mexico...

 

[socket]

My good friend is on faculty in OU's Department of Paleontology, and he recently informed me that a topic of frequent discussion in Department Chair and Deans' meetings is the priority closure of the dental school. Budgetary cuts are hitting the institution hard as they are nation wide, with science funding slashed significantly for the '09-'10 fiscal year. The medical school is decreasing their 2010 entering class seats by approximately 30%, and debate is ongoing as to whether the dental school will simply follow suit or go a big step further by actually closing down. Can anyone on campus or with further knowledge on the topic substantiate this? Has it come up in interviews? It seems to be a great dental school but also somewhat of a secret, as I don't see much discussion on it. Any info would be much appreciated.

Dr. Rick... out

OU College of Dentistry is not closing down, however they are going to take 2 out of state students less than last year... for a total of 56 matriculants.

 

[bvf]

OU College of Dentistry is not closing down, however they are going to take 2 out of state students less than last year... for a total of 56 matriculants.

We took a transfer student from UCLA who is a 2nd year with me so that counts for one. I don't know why OU is taking 2 less...

Also, just to give you an peek into the life of a 2nd year OU dental student.

This past week:

Monday: Exodontia lecture 8-9am, Clinic 9am-12pm - gave anesthesia and performed an occlusal composite on tooth #2. Geriatric dentistry lecture 1-2.
Tuesday: Ortho 8am-12pm - transitional dentition cast analysis, 1-3pm Oral Pathology lecture and quiz (Endo Lab work till 9pm)
Wednesday: Removeable Prosth. 8am-12pm - lecture, quiz, making my first set of dentures, 1-5pm Fixed Prosth - prepped an MOD onlay on #30 on my typodont in simulator and made a provisional crown out of Polymethyl Methacrylate (PMMA).
Thursday: Periodontics 8-9am - lecture, Clinic 9am-12pm - assisted my partner in clinic to work up a new patient. Poured up patients impressions in stone and mounted them on articulator to be evaluated by faculty during work up process. Oral Pathology EXAM 1-3pm (Endo lab work 3-6pm)
Friday: Endo - 8am-12pm - lecture then lab. Started endo procedure on an extracted mandibular incisor. Removeable Prosth 1-5pm - continue working on denture fabrication

So all of you heading to OU, rest assured you will gain an excellent clinical education.

 

[ou_jay]

I know this thread is old but I want to make sure that all misinformation in the original post is cleared up:

1.) Oklahoma University is a gigantic university. There are 28 colleges. Departments head don't all meet together because the are hundreds of departments. The Paleontology director would most likely have no interaction with the dental department heads.

2.) Oklahoma College of Medicine is actually increasing not decreasing its class size significantly due to the addition of a new community medicine program.

3.) Oklahoma College of Dentistry is not even remotely close to being closed. In fact they are spending lot of money to upgrade the clinic software (to provide the opportunity for paperless records in the near future) and to add digital radiology.

4.) The College of Dentistry has taken 58 students for many years. In the years 2004-2007 they took 60. It has been decided that 58 was better,and now they are going back to 58.

 

[Aceofspades]

It really doesn't make sense for a dental school to close down because of finances today. If a dental school was really in trouble they could just raise tuition, and the students WILL PAY. That's it. Unless they raise tuition to a level which students are unwilling or unable to borrow enough money to pay then all dental schools should be fine. If people are willing to pay for NYU and USC, I'm sure the tuition + living expense cap is not even close to being reached.

 

[DrReo]

It really doesn't make sense for a dental school to close down because of finances today. If a dental school was really in trouble they could just raise tuition, and the students WILL PAY. That's it. Unless they raise tuition to a level which students are unwilling or unable to borrow enough money to pay then all dental schools should be fine. If people are willing to pay for NYU and USC, I'm sure the tuition + living expense cap is not even close to being reached.

How about accept less instate and more out of state 😀. At IUSD, it takes 2 Indiana residents to equal an out of state. But schools have to accept so many instaters...