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I know this is an ongoing question in many peoples minds, but I've got an interesting situation- any advice would be great.

Just got accepted into a PA program, but have some DO apps still pending. The PA program is down the street, but the DO programs are a long way away. I'm 35, and don't think I'll have the time (and especially not the money) to go from PA to DO if I decide that I need to do so. I've got a HUGE debt from undergrad and grad school (over 100k!) already. I'm engaged to be married and she is attending school here in a PhD program. If I try to go DO, we will most likely be living very far apart. And we do want to start a family someday-

I know I can get into a DO school, but at what cost? I'm really attracted to the PA profession, especially in terms of less cost, less time, can attend school here and stay together, and was impressed with the program itself. I had my heart set on DO, but I know PA is a good option, and whats more, its my first acceptance. Any thoughts?
 
Sounds like you answered your own question...sort of. I say go for the PA. It is a good field, and life is too short to be away from the one's we love.

🙂
 
Can your fiancee transfer PhD programs? You'll have WAY more options as a DO than as a PA. Most practicing PAs would agree. Depends on what you want as a healthcare provider. I know several DOs who completed family practice and OMM residencies that were very low stress. They're now running highly successful private practices. PAs cannot practice autonomously. Balancing career and family is tough. Gotta weigh the options. Good luck.
 
If u are 22, then DO is the way to go. But when ure 35, u gotta do PA. It makes sense. Besides, the job is that much more different and if u have to choose a career, asumming money and age arent an option, DO has to be a better choice to make. I made that choice and knew it was the right one cause I am still young. But if I couldnt become a DO, PA would definitely be it for me. Its the only profession in healthcare that is close to what docs do (treating, diagnosing, and prescribing meds.) Key word: close.
 
MHC said:
I know this is an ongoing question in many peoples minds, but I've got an interesting situation- any advice would be great.

Just got accepted into a PA program, but have some DO apps still pending. The PA program is down the street, but the DO programs are a long way away. I'm 35, and don't think I'll have the time (and especially not the money) to go from PA to DO if I decide that I need to do so. I've got a HUGE debt from undergrad and grad school (over 100k!) already. I'm engaged to be married and she is attending school here in a PhD program. If I try to go DO, we will most likely be living very far apart. And we do want to start a family someday-

I know I can get into a DO school, but at what cost? I'm really attracted to the PA profession, especially in terms of less cost, less time, can attend school here and stay together, and was impressed with the program itself. I had my heart set on DO, but I know PA is a good option, and whats more, its my first acceptance. Any thoughts?

Also must consider the autonomy ... will you be happy with your PA or will you want to have that DO to do "more" in the practice. Have you talked to PA's in the area about the working conditions? They are different conditions in different areas. I know some in a less urbanized setting who are happier than those in a urban setting. I don't see 35 as that late and maybe you can do your 2 years at the DO school and rotations closer to home? Research it 🙂 And good luck.
 
OP:

Why not just chill out till she's done? Early in the marriage is a difficult time to spend apart. If you truly want to be a DO (and it sounds like it), then just wait a while. They would let you defer an admission you get this year. One year will make no difference in 30 years. One year apart could negatively affect your relationship. That will be remembered in 30 years.
 
Thanks for the feedback! A lot to think about...
 
I think, as long as years from now you're not saying "I could have.... should have... would have if it not for...." then go to PA school.

If you think that you may regret your decision later, or resent your fiance in any way - don't do it.

Too many ppl walk around talking about all the things they could have done with their lives... 35 is NOT old - especially if you don't have kids.
 
35 is NOTHING. We have a new attending who just got out of residency and he is no less than 50.
Go with your heart...
 
MHC said:
I know this is an ongoing question in many peoples minds, but I've got an interesting situation- any advice would be great.

Just got accepted into a PA program, but have some DO apps still pending. The PA program is down the street, but the DO programs are a long way away. I'm 35, and don't think I'll have the time (and especially not the money) to go from PA to DO if I decide that I need to do so. I've got a HUGE debt from undergrad and grad school (over 100k!) already. I'm engaged to be married and she is attending school here in a PhD program. If I try to go DO, we will most likely be living very far apart. And we do want to start a family someday-

I know I can get into a DO school, but at what cost? I'm really attracted to the PA profession, especially in terms of less cost, less time, can attend school here and stay together, and was impressed with the program itself. I had my heart set on DO, but I know PA is a good option, and whats more, its my first acceptance. Any thoughts?



If you had your druthers, what would you do? Probably DO school by the sounds of it or you wouldn't be having this debate with yourself. If PA school was your first choice, you wouldn't have even bothered to apply to DO programs. I agree with Orthofixation, simply wait until she is done with her PhD program, let her get a job, and live a more financially comfortable life while you attend medical school. Good Luck! L. 🙂
 
MHC,

Please seriously consider your choice before you take a spot away from someone that is really seriously dedicated to the PA profession. We had one gal drop out of out our PA class on day #2 because she was accepted into medical school. She upset a lot of us (our class only consists of 48 people) because we all learned of her decision after the fact & felt that it was a bit shady on her part.

There were quite a few people on our waiting list that would to have loved to have had that spot. I was actually acquainted with one of those people on the waiting list in the #1 slot & she was told that it was too late to be accepted. She did get accepted the next year, but it was devastating news for her at the time.

I know this is the worst case scenario, but based on your quote "I had my heart set on DO", you should go for it and not look back. Time is relative, you are young & will probably never be totally content if the Physician Assistant profession is not your ultimate goal.

Take care,
M
 
Thanks for all your feedback. I've decided that I really do want to go DO, so am declining my PA spot at Chatham, so if anyones waitlisted- theres one more spot for you. Since I made the decision, I've already got two DO interviews lined up. Good luck to everyone!
 
I wish you the best success and satisfaction in life MHC.
Good luck to you in your chosen path to become an Osteopathic physician. 🙂

TUCOM-Nevada
Class of 2009
 
MHC said:
I know this is an ongoing question in many peoples minds, but I've got an interesting situation- any advice would be great.

Just got accepted into a PA program, but have some DO apps still pending. The PA program is down the street, but the DO programs are a long way away. I'm 35, and don't think I'll have the time (and especially not the money) to go from PA to DO if I decide that I need to do so. I've got a HUGE debt from undergrad and grad school (over 100k!) already. I'm engaged to be married and she is attending school here in a PhD program. If I try to go DO, we will most likely be living very far apart. And we do want to start a family someday-

I know I can get into a DO school, but at what cost? I'm really attracted to the PA profession, especially in terms of less cost, less time, can attend school here and stay together, and was impressed with the program itself. I had my heart set on DO, but I know PA is a good option, and whats more, its my first acceptance. Any thoughts?

Looks like you already made up your mind, you just want someone to agree with you at this point. No one can really make up your mind for you. I think that you can be really happy as a PA, but it really depends on your personality.
 
Monika said:
MHC,

Please seriously consider your choice before you take a spot away from someone that is really seriously dedicated to the PA profession. We had one gal drop out of out our PA class on day #2 because she was accepted into medical school. She upset a lot of us (our class only consists of 48 people) because we all learned of her decision after the fact & felt that it was a bit shady on her part.

There were quite a few people on our waiting list that would to have loved to have had that spot. I was actually acquainted with one of those people on the waiting list in the #1 slot & she was told that it was too late to be accepted. She did get accepted the next year, but it was devastating news for her at the time.

I know this is the worst case scenario, but based on your quote "I had my heart set on DO", you should go for it and not look back. Time is relative, you are young & will probably never be totally content if the Physician Assistant profession is not your ultimate goal.

Take care,
M

WHy is it shady, she had the ability to make it to PA school, your friend didn't. If she changed her mind to MD so be it.
 
tupac_don said:
WHy is it shady, she had the ability to make it to PA school, your friend didn't. If she changed her mind to MD so be it.

I agree. All is fair in love, war, and admissions!! Who could blame someone for having a backup plan? She did nothing wrong...end of story.
 
PA school should not be a 'backup' plan for becoming a doctor....regardless of your situation Matt, you have to admit your experience is the exception to the rule. Most PA-C's end up staying PA-C's because that is what they truly wanted in the first place. I know we are trained in the same model & docs are our bosses, but at the end of the day they are NOT the same profession.

I just simply don't understand how anyone seriously wanting to become a physician & having gone through the grueling pre-med process would even fathom accepting PA school as their consolation prize. Sounds like pure misery, plus a waste of their precious time & money.

If you want to be a doctor & you KNOW it from the start... go all out to make it happen...likewise for one wanting to pursue the PA profession.

🙂 M
 
Monika said:
PA school should not be a 'backup' plan for becoming a doctor....regardless of your situation Matt, you have to admit your experience is the exception to the rule. Most PA-C's end up staying PA-C's because that is what they truly wanted in the first place. I know we are trained in the same model & docs are our bosses, but at the end of the day they are NOT the same profession.

I just simply don't understand how anyone seriously wanting to become a physician & having gone through the grueling pre-med process would even fathom accepting PA school as their consolation prize. Sounds like pure misery, plus a waste of their precious time & money.

If you want to be a doctor & you KNOW it from the start... go all out to make it happen...likewise for one wanting to pursue the PA profession.

🙂 M

You can thank your friendly neighborhood PA admission committee for allowing in these undecided youngsters with no medical experience to boot. PA schools have been forced to take more inexperienced applicants since they have moved to a bachelor's admissions. In doing this, you are going to attract a lot more of the undecided premeds instead of the seasoned medical professionals like medics, RT's, RN's, etc..
 
PACtoDOC said:
You can thank your friendly neighborhood PA admission committee for allowing in these undecided youngsters with no medical experience to boot. PA schools have been forced to take more inexperienced applicants since they have moved to a bachelor's admissions. In doing this, you are going to attract a lot more of the undecided premeds instead of the seasoned medical professionals like medics, RT's, RN's, etc..
have to agree with matt on this one......
 
Monika said:
PA school should not be a 'backup' plan for becoming a doctor....regardless of your situation Matt, you have to admit your experience is the exception to the rule. Most PA-C's end up staying PA-C's because that is what they truly wanted in the first place. I know we are trained in the same model & docs are our bosses, but at the end of the day they are NOT the same profession.

I just simply don't understand how anyone seriously wanting to become a physician & having gone through the grueling pre-med process would even fathom accepting PA school as their consolation prize. Sounds like pure misery, plus a waste of their precious time & money.

If you want to be a doctor & you KNOW it from the start... go all out to make it happen...likewise for one wanting to pursue the PA profession. 🙂 M
I completely agree, but to be Devil's Advocate, there are still going to be some people who are attracted to both professions, and get to feeling like it's time to fish or cut bait. I happen to think it would be shady to apply to both PA and med school, or at least it would bespeak a potentially shady lack of focus. But still, there could a person who honestly would be happy doing either, right?
 
Monika said:
PA school should not be a 'backup' plan for becoming a doctor....regardless of your situation Matt, you have to admit your experience is the exception to the rule. Most PA-C's end up staying PA-C's because that is what they truly wanted in the first place. I know we are trained in the same model & docs are our bosses, but at the end of the day they are NOT the same profession.

I just simply don't understand how anyone seriously wanting to become a physician & having gone through the grueling pre-med process would even fathom accepting PA school as their consolation prize. Sounds like pure misery, plus a waste of their precious time & money.

If you want to be a doctor & you KNOW it from the start... go all out to make it happen...likewise for one wanting to pursue the PA profession.

🙂 M

With respect to others who have commented on this (feb, emed, pac2), I think this notion is complete hooey.

It is probably safe to say that the core competence or vital motivation to both the MD/DO and PA professions is the practice of medicine. I choose those phrases carefully because the "level" of competence as well as the degree of motivation is the key difference in the two. If you are highly motivated to seek the highest competence, then you choose MD/DO; if you are still vitally interested in the practice of medicine but are less motivated (literally to undertake the decade of intense academics and personal sacrifice it taKes to become an MD) then the next level of competence which allows you to practice is PA.

This question is not at all easily answered and it is a personal one which many, many people struggle with (just look here on SDN). The choice involves personal circumstances across many variables. Just look at this thread and you have PAC2DOC who was a PA-C and is now becoming Doc; you have EMEDPA who is an ace PA who could easily and may one day become an MD; you have Febrifuge who at the outset of his post-bacc still doesn't know; and myself in the same boat. For me, at least today, I am torn because at 34 with two baby boys and a wife with a great career, I am not sure that I personally can intellectually and emotionally divorce them for the next decade while I finish pre-reqs, do med school and then residency.

But to the point I made at the beginning, the point to both professions is the practice of medicine. That many (or at least enough to make a point) PAs go from PA to MED school would illustrate the point that the urge for the greater challenge and upward (professional) mobility is a strong one. For myself, as a person with the desire to be a doctor but the life circumstances that mitigate toward PA, the one thing I've never questioned is my desire to practice medicine.

If I do choose MD it will not be without having given very serious consideration to being a PA. Likewise, a decision to be a PA will at least, and increasingly with greater mastery, make me wonder what if...?

Questions like these are never as easy as Monika makes them seem...and as for the gruelling pre-reqs, isn't knowledge a virtue in itself...?

OckhamsRzr
 
nice post and a good summary of where a lot of folks are at right now.....
 
As the original question is being a Physician Assistant versus being an Osteopathic Physician...I think for one, being a DO is a very different thing than simply "going to medical school".
While YES I am a Doctor...I am also a DO. It is strange the fraternity that most DO's have. Really. Even though I am completing my residency at an allopathic institution, my greatest pride in the world would be for my son to become a DO. There is so much history, there is the secret handshake, there are the philosophies on healing (whether you believe them or not).
It is a true ART and a true defined Profession. I guess while I see the certain life factors that play into everyones equation, I can't help but to return to the original question...to me the answer is simple...being a DO and entering into that type of brotherhood and the full practice of medicine is the best thing that I have ever done and there is no comparison nor is there a substitute.
That is the ultimate question...do you see your profession as you JOB or as a part of you? Being a DO is very much a Part of me...being an Emergency Physician is my skill.
 
ockhamsRzr said:
With respect to others who have commented on this (feb, emed, pac2), I think this notion is complete hooey.

It is probably safe to say that the core competence or vital motivation to both the MD/DO and PA professions is the practice of medicine. I choose those phrases carefully because the "level" of competence as well as the degree of motivation is the key difference in the two. If you are highly motivated to seek the highest competence, then you choose MD/DO; if you are still vitally interested in the practice of medicine but are less motivated (literally to undertake the decade of intense academics and personal sacrifice it taKes to become an MD) then the next level of competence which allows you to practice is PA.

This question is not at all easily answered and it is a personal one which many, many people struggle with (just look here on SDN). The choice involves personal circumstances across many variables. Just look at this thread and you have PAC2DOC who was a PA-C and is now becoming Doc; you have EMEDPA who is an ace PA who could easily and may one day become an MD; you have Febrifuge who at the outset of his post-bacc still doesn't know; and myself in the same boat. For me, at least today, I am torn because at 34 with two baby boys and a wife with a great career, I am not sure that I personally can intellectually and emotionally divorce them for the next decade while I finish pre-reqs, do med school and then residency.

But to the point I made at the beginning, the point to both professions is the practice of medicine. That many (or at least enough to make a point) PAs go from PA to MED school would illustrate the point that the urge for the greater challenge and upward (professional) mobility is a strong one. For myself, as a person with the desire to be a doctor but the life circumstances that mitigate toward PA, the one thing I've never questioned is my desire to practice medicine.

If I do choose MD it will not be without having given very serious consideration to being a PA. Likewise, a decision to be a PA will at least, and increasingly with greater mastery, make me wonder what if...?

Questions like these are never as easy as Monika makes them seem...and as for the gruelling pre-reqs, isn't knowledge a virtue in itself...?

OckhamsRzr

Couldnt have said it better. Most ppl call me a sell out when they found out I applied to both programs but I tried to explain to them that there are both sides to every story. Both are excellent professions with one commonality. That being to practice medicine. For me to give up on both proffesions simply because med school didnt work out is ridiculous. I still want to be involved in medicine as well as treating patients. Whether it was becoming a PA or a Dr. was a matter of fate. Im just happy it worked out the way it did. I hope others out there see it the way some of u guys and myself see it as well.
 
djquick83 said:
Couldnt have said it better... Both are excellent professions with one commonality. That being to practice medicine.
I totally agree. Good post, Ock. You hit the nail on the head. 👍

I would just prefer to have the question answered for myself, and to my own satisfaction, sooner rather than later. As DocWagner says, there's something one has to know about oneself that is key: if doctoring is going to be a core part of one's identity, MD or DO (maybe, especially DO) is clearly a better fit. Of practicing medicine is going to be more of a vocation, albeit a very satisfying and challenging one, then PA is an excellent choice.

I just can't figure out how newbies like us are supposed to project ourselves into the future and answer that one. 😕 Gotta go with the gut, I suppose. Ock has damn good reasons for choosing PA, and Quick has a reasonable and logical point about trying for both.
 
Febrifuge said:
I totally agree. Good post, Ock. You hit the nail on the head. 👍

Hey Feb --I've been meaning to email you.

In the centrifuge of my life I've recently decided to turn 180 degrees and am now staring down the barrel of the med school path rather than PA school. A couple of reasons (with no offense to anyone in either camp):

1. This issue of mastery: Philosophically I believe that life should be the slow (fast is fine too though) progression of whatever one's life work is toward mastery. As I thought about this, I kept hitting an intellectual ceiling with the constraints of PA. PAC2DOC had made a specific comment that I really didn't like but he didn't mean it as such. He said in an earlier post regarding DrNPs and PAs that, "I am actually loving this development by NP's to attain DNP status, because it just means more jobs for PA's who know what it means to be subordinate and respectful to their physician colleagues. A subordinate stance goes a long way toward enhancing acceptance and gaining priviledges [sic]."

Now while I have a really hard time with that sentiment (the notion of subordinate=privileges...WHAT?...ability should equal privileges and any job where it doesn't I don't want to toil), I do respect PAC2DOC for his perspective. What the quote made me start thinking was how such an attitude reflected in a larger sense on the real and perceived role of a PA and how that role grated against my idea of mastery in one's chosen profession. What I mean is that were I to choose PA and become the absolute best PA who ever lived, I would still, structurally and by definition be "subordinate". In a very real sense there would be a ceiling to the level of mastery that I could ever possibly attain, for I would always be subordinate to an MD.

This is diffent for a nurse, for example, because they are trained under a different paradigm with different goals. For a nurse, mastery is an ongoing progression, but for a PA, educated under the medical paradigm, mastery has a limit; and that limit is the structural boundary (or distinction if you prefer) between the PA and the MD.

2. The cost-benefit of both paths: Assuming that the prereqs are pretty similar and the that the first two years of both are similar in terms of committment, I end up looking further down the road. The point at which I feel the cost-benefit ratio of DO overtakes PA is when I consider the unprecended career options one enjoys as an MD/DO: policy, public heath, administration, sub-specialization, international practice, personal practice, etc. That is not to say in anyway that PAs are locked down. In fact I found the ability to change specialties by virtue of changing jobs as one of the key benefits of PA (I still do). But taken to a logical end, regardless of multi-specialty flexibility in PA, I perceive the mobility as inherently limited by the structure of the job itself. For me, the additional cost in terms if years and dollars to pursue MD/DO (DO for me) is worth it in the longer run.

3. The academics of it all: they are to some degree my ballywick. This is my first (and final) semester back at school in more than 10 years. I had a great GPA then and, now back after an extended hiatus, am finding that the academics that used to come so easily have not betrayed me with age. That I am also taking and loving BioI and doing great has served to embolden my feeling that I can sustain the protracted challenge of med school. On my lab days I am literally at school straight-out from 9am to 9pm and when I leave I am exhilarated. I'll finish my undergrad at UMass Boston in late May, start EMT training at Northeastern in late March, am planning on joining an archeological field study in Belize in June (3 weeks) and then hopefully join an ED as a tech once I return. From there it's post-bacc in the fall to finish my prereqs. Somehow, as challenges become experiences I feel like med school and not PA school is the challenge I'm increasingly primed for.

Yup, it's a personal decision and as DocWagner says, it's the degree to which you align your sense of self with your profession versus, as you mention, the degree it remains vocational. I think for me I can't separate my work from myself--consider it a character flaw...

Sorry for the long-ass post,

OckhamsRzr
 
DocWagner said:
As the original question is being a Physician Assistant versus being an Osteopathic Physician...I think for one, being a DO is a very different thing than simply "going to medical school".
While YES I am a Doctor...I am also a DO. It is strange the fraternity that most DO's have. Really. Even though I am completing my residency at an allopathic institution, my greatest pride in the world would be for my son to become a DO. There is so much history, there is the secret handshake, there are the philosophies on healing (whether you believe them or not).
It is a true ART and a true defined Profession. I guess while I see the certain life factors that play into everyones equation, I can't help but to return to the original question...to me the answer is simple...being a DO and entering into that type of brotherhood and the full practice of medicine is the best thing that I have ever done and there is no comparison nor is there a substitute.
That is the ultimate question...do you see your profession as you JOB or as a part of you? Being a DO is very much a Part of me...being an Emergency Physician is my skill.


:clap: :clap: :clap: how i feel exactly
 
ockhamsRzr said:
...were I to choose PA and become the absolute best PA who ever lived, I would still, structurally and by definition be "subordinate". In a very real sense there would be a ceiling to the level of mastery that I could ever possibly attain, for I would always be subordinate to an MD.
Yep, I am also coming up against that idea more and more, as I talk with the PA's where I work. If I think about 2009, hey, there's a big difference between being a new PA with a long coat and a DEA number, and being a lowly clueless MS3. But let's say it's 2015, and I am an awesome PA, much like my friends. It gives me pause to think that people might describe me (as my friends are described sometimes) as "better with patients than some of the attendings in this place" or "way beyond the residents in skills and confidence." That's a great compliment, but by 2015 I could be one of the residents. And then there's 2020 to think about... So I am also leaning back toward med school.

One big difference is that for me, the academics are more an unknown variable. In my liberal-arts schooling, it was all about work product, less about process. And my process sucked. I need to learn how to study math & science, at the same time I'm learning the math & science. Thank god my Post-Bac is specifically designed for people like me, eh?
 
DocWagner said:
As the original question is being a Physician Assistant versus being an Osteopathic Physician...I think for one, being a DO is a very different thing than simply "going to medical school".
While YES I am a Doctor...I am also a DO. It is strange the fraternity that most DO's have. Really. Even though I am completing my residency at an allopathic institution, my greatest pride in the world would be for my son to become a DO. There is so much history, there is the secret handshake, there are the philosophies on healing (whether you believe them or not).
It is a true ART and a true defined Profession. I guess while I see the certain life factors that play into everyones equation, I can't help but to return to the original question...to me the answer is simple...being a DO and entering into that type of brotherhood and the full practice of medicine is the best thing that I have ever done and there is no comparison nor is there a substitute.
That is the ultimate question...do you see your profession as you JOB or as a part of you? Being a DO is very much a Part of me...being an Emergency Physician is my skill.

Damn E, that was the best post you have ever produced. i could never have said it near as eloguently! This is what I think I would like to tell anyone contemplating the journey to medicine. The journey to physicianhood is long but goes by very fast. You have to embrace the fact that the journey is just as important as the light at the end of the tunnel. I try not to get bogged down counting days to graduation like my friends. Each day I try to impact someone's health in a way that few other students do, and each day I try to learn a little more. True, the day I graduate next year I will still have way less priviledges than say a new grad PA. But just because a new grad PA is making more dough and having less oversight does not mean that I there journey is more pleasant. The physician journey is a distinct path with a beginning, a middle, and an end. Its the best ride imaginable and only one that can be understood and shared by my colleagues. Being a PA is just a job. The journey is officially over once you graduate because technically you have no more oversight that day than any future day in your life. But on the flipside, you will never gain any new rights as you progress as a PA. Thats why the PA journey is so irregular and only for those looking to avoid the long journey of medicine. As a 3rd year med student now, I make as much a difference in my patient's lives as I did when I was a PA, if not more. So don't think that you are somehow not going to have any satisfaction until you reach the end of the journey. To me, a bad life as a doctor is better than the best day as a PA. The PA role is so undefined, so misunderstood, and so less than rewarding at times. But that is just me. Enjoy the journey, because it consumes a large part of your life!
 
Thank you...what I wrote is very sincere...you become retrospective prior to finishing residency.
 
PACtoDOC,

Thanks for such a great post! You expressed many of the thoughts that I've had a hunch about recently. I especially value your insight becaue you've had a foot in both camps and can honestly speak to the realities that each poses.

Ockham

PACtoDOC said:
Damn E, that was the best post you have ever produced. i could never have said it near as eloguently! This is what I think I would like to tell anyone contemplating the journey to medicine. The journey to physicianhood is long but goes by very fast. You have to embrace the fact that the journey is just as important as the light at the end of the tunnel. I try not to get bogged down counting days to graduation like my friends. Each day I try to impact someone's health in a way that few other students do, and each day I try to learn a little more. True, the day I graduate next year I will still have way less priviledges than say a new grad PA. But just because a new grad PA is making more dough and having less oversight does not mean that I there journey is more pleasant. The physician journey is a distinct path with a beginning, a middle, and an end. Its the best ride imaginable and only one that can be understood and shared by my colleagues. Being a PA is just a job. The journey is officially over once you graduate because technically you have no more oversight that day than any future day in your life. But on the flipside, you will never gain any new rights as you progress as a PA. Thats why the PA journey is so irregular and only for those looking to avoid the long journey of medicine. As a 3rd year med student now, I make as much a difference in my patient's lives as I did when I was a PA, if not more. So don't think that you are somehow not going to have any satisfaction until you reach the end of the journey. To me, a bad life as a doctor is better than the best day as a PA. The PA role is so undefined, so misunderstood, and so less than rewarding at times. But that is just me. Enjoy the journey, because it consumes a large part of your life!
 
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