PA starting Salary

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Hello all, i was just wondering if anyone know what type of starting salary ran PA's have?

 

[MedicineMike]

im pretty sure it depends on what specialty you go into...

 

[DizzyJon]

Check out AAPA.org

http://www.aapa.org/research/index.html

 

[core0]

Check out AAPA.org

http://www.aapa.org/research/index.html

More specifically check out this report:
http://www.aapa.org/research/InformationUpdates08/IU08NewGradIncome.pdf

David Carpenter, PA-C

 

[deleted6669]

ARRANGED A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY COURTESY ADVANCE FOR PA'S MAGAZINE: ( LOOK WHAT'S ON TOP....)
In its 2008 census report, the AAPA reported mean total annual income (MTI) from primary employer for clinically practicing PAs who graduated in 2007 and work at least 32 hours a week. ADVANCE compiled this chart using data from AAPA's individual specialty reports.

Specialty MTI
Emergency medicine $83,951
Cardiovascular surgery $82,423
Radiology $81,300
Occupational medicine $80,932
Nephrology $80,633
Hospital medicine $80,181
Neurosurgery $79,789
Orthopedics $78,462
Urology $77,897
Pain management $77,031
Trauma surgery $76,935
Allergy/Immunology $76,740
Plastic surgery $76,698
U.S. Mean $76,232
Dermatology $75,003
General internal medicine $74,400
Family medicine $73,908
Psychiatry $73,581
Cardiology $72,134
General surgery $72,089
Neurology $71,468
Oncology $71,426
Gastroenterology $71,322
Pediatrics $70,815
Otorhinolaryngology $69,579
Obstetrics/Gynecology $69,564

Source: American Academy of Physician Assistants

 

[deleted6669]

STATS FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT NEW GRADS:
In its 2008 census report, the American Academy of Physician Assistants reported mean total income (MTI) from primary employer for clinically practicing PAs working at least 32 hours per week. ADVANCE compiled this chart using data from AAPA's individual specialty reports.

Specialty MTI
Cardiovascular/Cardiothoracic surgery $110,468
Dermatology $104,474
Emergency medicine $99,635
Neurosurgery $98,024
Critical care medicine $96,984
Radiology $95,214
Orthopedics $94,916
Anesthesiology $93,370
Plastic surgery $92,633
Occupational medicine $92,323
Trauma surgery $91,417
Urology $90,462
General surgery $90,094
Pain management $89,059
Cardiology $87,812
Hospital medicine $87,550
Otorhinolaryngology $86,856
Geriatrics $85,973
Psychiatry $85,361
General internal medicine $85,076
Addiction medicine $84,627
Oncology $84,336
Gastroenterology $84,268
Family medicine $84,173
Pediatrics $83,021
Neurology $81,762
Allergy/Immunology $81,557
Public health $81,387
Rheumatology $81,224
Nephrology $80,842
Obstetrics/Gynecology $79,229
Endocrinology $78,956

 

[DrJosephKim]

It really is a broad range and it depends on geography as well as your specialty/setting.

 

[badasshairday]

STATS FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT NEW GRADS:
In its 2008 census report, the American Academy of Physician Assistants reported mean total income (MTI) from primary employer for clinically practicing PAs working at least 32 hours per week. ADVANCE compiled this chart using data from AAPA's individual specialty reports.

Specialty MTI
Cardiovascular/Cardiothoracic surgery $110,468
Dermatology $104,474
Emergency medicine $99,635
Neurosurgery $98,024
Critical care medicine $96,984
Radiology $95,214
Orthopedics $94,916
Anesthesiology $93,370
Plastic surgery $92,633
Occupational medicine $92,323
Trauma surgery $91,417
Urology $90,462
General surgery $90,094
Pain management $89,059
Cardiology $87,812
Hospital medicine $87,550
Otorhinolaryngology $86,856
Geriatrics $85,973
Psychiatry $85,361
General internal medicine $85,076
Addiction medicine $84,627
Oncology $84,336
Gastroenterology $84,268
Family medicine $84,173
Pediatrics $83,021
Neurology $81,762
Allergy/Immunology $81,557
Public health $81,387
Rheumatology $81,224
Nephrology $80,842
Obstetrics/Gynecology $79,229
Endocrinology $78,956

I wasn't aware that PA's work in Anesthesiology. What would their role be in it?

 

[deleted6669]

I wasn't aware that PA's work in Anesthesiology. What would their role be in it?

very few pa's deliver operative anesthesia(maybe 25 in the entire country who got training back in the 70's through specialty residencies that no longer exist).
most pa's working in anesthesia do pre-op and post-op eveluations. some do interventional pain in a group with docs.

 

[physasst]

very few pa's deliver operative anesthesia(maybe 25 in the entire country who got training back in the 70's through specialty residencies that no longer exist).
most pa's working in anesthesia do pre-op and post-op eveluations. some do interventional pain in a group with docs.

Yep, here at Mayo, we have several PA's working with Anesthesia in the Pain Clinic.

Why anyone would want to do that to themselves, I'll never know...

 

[MRW]

When my wife was at St. Barnabus in NJ giving birth a few weeks ago, there was an anesthesia PA. She works exclusively on the OB floor managing spinals. My wife's was done by the MD with the PA watching, so I am unsure how far her responsibilities go...

 

[MedicineMike]

well they have AA (anesthesiologist assistants) which are like PAs for anesthesiologists. It is a specific field/school you have to go into for it as well.

I think the PA anesthesiologists are becoming extinct...correct me if im wrong?

 

[badasshairday]

Yep, here at Mayo, we have several PA's working with Anesthesia in the Pain Clinic.

Why anyone would want to do that to themselves, I'll never know...

Why do you say that?

 

[deleted6669]

Why do you say that?

have you ever worked with pain clinic or addiction medicine patients.....?

 

[Coastie]

Hello all, i was just wondering if anyone know what type of starting salary ran PA's have?

Most of my friends started 95-110k

 

[deleted6669]

Most of my friends started 95-110k

that's a bit high unless they all work ortho/em/surgery....
many folks never hit 100k....

 

[bradt9881]

I was given 79K base salary plus an annual bonus based on collections. This is for an outpatient internal med position.

 

[poiuyt123]

how many years of experience does it take for a PA to make it to the 90k-100k range?

 

[deleted6669]

how many years of experience does it take for a PA to make it to the 90k-100k range?

depends on specialty and location.
new grad in surgery in major metro area can make that yr 1.
you can work 20 yrs in primary care in some locations and never make more than 80.

 

[Mansi123]

Really?
What if u specialize in cardiovascular? cant u then start out with close to 90 + ?
Also, How can u go about specializing? Is it additional few years after 2 yrs of PA program?

depends on specialty and location.
new grad in surgery in major metro area can make that yr 1.
you can work 20 yrs in primary care in some locations and never make more than 80.

 

[deleted6669]

Really?

Also, How can u go about specializing? Is it additional few years after 2 yrs of PA program?

specializing can be done either through on the job training or through an optional formal 1-2 yr pa residency(see www.appap.org)

 

[Narnian]

In Alaska they are offering 95K plus free housing for anyone! Even a new grad!

 

[deleted6669]

In Alaska they are offering 95K plus free housing for anyone! Even a new grad!

+ loan repayment....if I was single I would be there or a small er somewhere in the NE.
there are locums gigs up there that pay very well also...I have a friend who does 2 weeks once/yr...for 7k+free housing and in state flights(and snowmobile transit...)...not bad for 2 weeks work.....

 

[FutureDO2016]

What is the range of starting salaries for PAs nowadays? For primary care and for surgical specialties?

Correct me if I'm work but I hear it's 80-90K for primary care and 90-120K for surgical specialties?

I'm talking about starting salaries for students fresh out of PA school and board-certified and licensed....

Also is the job market saturated-hard to get jobs? need to take a pay cut? I'm asking about the Milwaukee-Chicago-Indianapolis area?