Paramedic vs. EMS/EMT for aspiring premeds (what is your perspective?)

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General question from some conversations:

A few premed applicants have expressed concern that there is greater value in being a "paramedic" versus an EMT. For those who might be interested, can you provide your thoughts about the differences (whether one is "better" than the other for medical school preparation)?

What do you wish non-clinical application screeners knew about the difference?

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Maybe it’s just me but it seems like clinical experience in a hospital, OP surgery center, clinic or hospice is more applicable to actual medical school? Applicants are trying to become physicians not paramedics. I’m sure I’ll get downvoted here.
 
Current MS3 and former paramedic here. I'm not on any admissions committees so I can't speak with much authority to that, but I don't think most adcom members understand or care very much about the distinction between an EMT and a paramedic unless they worked in EMS themselves.

Obviously, a paramedic has a lot more education than an EMT, and that might offer a slight advantage once you've matriculated. This is especially true for skills like interpreting EKGs and procedural skills (e.g., starting IVs, intubating). However, these make up a pretty small segment of medical education, so I think there's limited value there. Additionally, a lot of the operational skills that EMTs and paramedics learn (e.g., drawing up meds, attaching monitors) are simply not necessary for a physician, since in the hospital, these tasks are much more commonly performed by nurses and techs.

In a traditional EMS model, paramedics have much more of a leadership role than EMTs during a patient encounter. That might mean directing other people, determining when to escalate/de-escalate responses, making judgment calls on differential diagnoses and treatment plans, and taking final responsibility for decisions. Since physicians are generally expected to take on a similar degree of responsibility, being a paramedic might better prepare an applicant for adopting the "physician mindset."

I do not think that most medical students are expected to take this level of responsibility or leadership, so the added value of being a paramedic (vs. an EMT) is certainly not necessary, but it can definitely set someone apart. It could also potentially be a positive if viewed by an adcom member who places a higher-than-average value on leadership.

Speaking for myself, I was a non-traditional applicant with a pretty bad undergrad GPA, so I leaned really heavily into my leadership experiences. I don't think this would have had as much benefit for a more traditional applicant, but I used it to my advantage.

To sum it up, upgrading from EMT to paramedic can offer value in a few niche circumstances, but probably isn't worth the extra 1–2 years of schooling for most prospective medical students. However, if the student falls into one of those niche circumstances, there can be considerable value.
 
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Not really anything to add after @seanm028 other than from an adcom perspective- clinical experience is clinical experience. I wouldn't spend more time in school becoming a paramedic because you think that will set you apart drastically on its own.

However, everything else seanm028 said is also true- my classmates who were nurses/PAs/paramedics/etc have a lot of practical knowledge that I've had to attempt to learn from scratch (and am still trying to learn). And of course leadership experience. I imagine a paramedic intern would freak out less at a code than I will one day...........
 
Not really anything to add after @seanm028 other than from an adcom perspective- clinical experience is clinical experience. I wouldn't spend more time in school becoming a paramedic because you think that will set you apart drastically on its own.

However, everything else seanm028 said is also true- my classmates who were nurses/PAs/paramedics/etc have a lot of practical knowledge that I've had to attempt to learn from scratch (and am still trying to learn). And of course leadership experience. I imagine a paramedic intern would freak out less at a code than I will one day...........
That's the key. Actual hands-on patient clinical experience. I don't care if you're a CNA doing scutwork. You're actually interacting with and taking care of patients.
 
Paramedic here. I concur it is unfortunately not weighed as much vs EMT experience or any other experience in the same amount. I was lucky- at my program an adcom told me they did consider it to be slightly advantageous over being an EMT/scribe/medical assistant. But they also told me that most other programs either wouldn't care or legit know the difference.

I think it's a darn shame this is the case. Paramedics are described as being an extension of the physician into the prehospital setting. I do not know of any other pre-med activity that has such a comparison to being an actual doctor- not even a nurse or midlevel. Being a paramedic and doing critical care level stuff is so valuable coming into med school. And don't forget the real-life experience. And it's not to diminish other clinical activities per se. Granted I'm sour- I only got into one school by the edge of my teeth and got passed over by 29 others. I get the vibe many didn't care that much about my 14k hrs of paramedic work- maybe they would've preferred I traded half of that time to doing lab-based research or elevating my 512 MCAT to a 520, which is a double damn shame.

My colleagues on the national stage for EMS consider us to be the bastard childs of healthcare. Ngl, this phenomenon of indifference towards paramedicine by adcoms supports that sad case.
 
I'm an M1 EMT who happened to matriculate into med school with one of my paramedic coworkers who started work at the same time as I did. I did not feel it would be worthwhile to do the extra years of school, knowing that I would eventually be doing 4 years of med school. As others have pointed out, adcoms don't really perceive a difference between the two, and I know the medical director wrote both of us similar LORs. I've asked my coworker if being a paramedic has given them an advantage thus far and they say not specifically, other than standardized patients and SIMS--which is the same experience I have. We're only 2 blocks in so maybe this will change as we get into more advanced clinical skills, but so far there isn't much difference as we have similar comfort levels with patients and simulations. Although, in my agency EMTs had probably just as much face to face patient interaction and opportunities for BLS leadership so I was able to gain those valuable skills. Also, my coworker got their paramedic as part of a 4 year degree (which is kind of ideal imo), so they most definitely don't have any regrets about getting a higher level cert knowing they'd go to med school at some point.
 
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