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Hey, I got a couple quick questions. I just took Part II 2 weeks ago, do any of you know when I should be hearing back (exam was computer-based)? Also, I need to take Part III in June before starting residency in the state of Pennsylvania, do I just call the state board to get all the info or wait until the '08 stuff comes out on the NBPME website? Thanks.
 
Hey, I got a couple quick questions. I just took Part II 2 weeks ago, do any of you know when I should be hearing back (exam was computer-based)? Also, I need to take Part III in June before starting residency in the state of Pennsylvania, do I just call the state board to get all the info or wait until the '08 stuff comes out on the NBPME website? Thanks.

You should be contacting the Pennsylvania State Board of Podiatry for a licensure application and a form for the PMLexis (Part III) registration ASAP. You can also download the licensure application from the web at http://www.dos.state.pa.us/bpoa/cwp/view.asp?a=1104&q=433016
The licensure application that you need to download is the Application for a License to Practice Podiatry by EXAMINATION. However, you will still need to contact the PA State Board of Podiatry for the PMLexis application. You do not need to wait until the Part III information comes out on NBPME website before obtaining an application. I would do all of this soon since the deadline for the PA licensure application is due sometime in April and you need to get a bunch of documents to the State Board by then as well. As per the website, it states that the deadline for PMLexis registration is usually 60 days prior to the test date.

For those who are reading this posting and are a TUSPM student, you can obtained the forms from Marva Brown in the registrar office.

A quick statement about PMLexis (NBPME Part III boards). Not everyone is ELIGIBLE to take the NBPME Part III boards. Besides graduating from Podiatry school and passing NBPME Part I and II boards, you need to be obtaining some sort of license (whether it is a training or full license) from a state that accepts PMLexis. For example, in New Jersey, they do not recognize the PMLexis exam. Hence, applicants applying for the NJ license will not be eligible to take the PMLexis exam. Some NJ applicant have tried in the past to register directly with the Chauncey group but when it was time to schedule the exam, they were not permitted to schedule the exam since their names were never submitted by the PMLexis exam accepting state as being eligible to take the PMLexis. So, a New Jersey applicant that wants to take the PMLexis would have to also apply for a Pennsylvania or New York License in order to be eligible to take the PMLexis.
 
DPM/GRAD, thanks so much for the info. Greatly Appreciated!!!
 
4th years, our Part II results were mailed this week. Expect them the latest by Monday. Hope everyone PASSED!!!
 
Just got my Part II results today and thank God I PASSED!!! Anyway, now I need to take Part III in June. Would someone explain the difference between Part II and III to me? They seem so similar. And how much do I need to study for Part III compared to Part II? Thanks.
 
Just got my Part II results today and thank God I PASSED!!! Anyway, now I need to take Part III in June. Would someone explain the difference between Part II and III to me? They seem so similar. And how much do I need to study for Part III compared to Part II? Thanks.

Congrats on passing Part II.

I think that the main difference between Part II and Part III is that you have to make more clinical decisions on Part III than on Part II. For example, if someone presents to the office with so and so, what would you do next.
 
Just out of curiousity, what happens if someone who matches a PA residency fails pt2 or pt3? Can they still begin the residency and re-take durning PGY-1, or do they need to wait until they pass to start the program?

Congrats to all who recently found out they passed pt2 :clap:
 
Just out of curiousity, what happens if someone who matches a PA residency fails pt2 or pt3? Can they still begin the residency and re-take durning PGY-1, or do they need to wait until they pass to start the program?

Congrats to all who recently found out they passed pt2 :clap:

The reason why all Podiatry residents in state of PA (except for the VA residents in PA) must take and pass the June administration of the Part III exam is that they need to obtain a full PA Podiatry State License prior to start of residency, in order to obtain medical malpractice insurance for his/her residency training.

In regards to an incoming resident failing Part II or Part III, most programs will either drop the incoming resident or delay the start date of the incoming resident by 6 months so that he/she can take the December administration of the Part III exam. There are one or two programs that have actually allowed that incoming resident to start the residency training in July but have restructured the training schedule so that he/she are doing rotations where there is minimal or no patient contact (such as medical imaging, pathology, etc....) for the first six months. This situation is very rare because most hospitals do not want to open themselves up to a huge liability situation. For the incoming resident that has been dropped from PA residency program due to inability of passing Part II or III, he/she will either try to scramble into any available residency spots in states that do not require Part III exam during the first year of residency training (such as New York or New Jersey) or just take the year off and try for another residency spot the following year. Failing the Part III exam puts a lot of stress on that incoming resident because he/she does not find out the results of the Part III exams until the end of June, which leaves he/she very little time to scramble for another spot. I had also mentioned that the incoming residents in the VA residency programs in PA do not require the incoming resident to pass Part III prior to start of the residency training. Since the VA residency programs operate under federal guidelines, the incoming residents have until end of the 1st year of residency training to take and pass Part III exam and obtain a full license prior to the start of the second year of residency training.

Lastly, a quick word about Part II exams. For those students interested in doing a residency in PA, you must take and pass the March administration of Part II exam, in order to sit for Part III exam. If he/she waits to take Part II exam in May, it will be too late for that student to qualify for the Part III exam.
 
The reason why all Podiatry residents in state of PA (except for the VA residents in PA) must take and pass the June administration of the Part III exam is that they need to obtain a full PA Podiatry State License prior to start of residency, in order to obtain medical malpractice insurance for his/her residency training.

In regards to an incoming resident failing Part II or Part III, most programs will either drop the incoming resident or delay the start date of the incoming resident by 6 months so that he/she can take the December administration of the Part III exam. There are one or two programs that have actually allowed that incoming resident to start the residency training in July but have restructured the training schedule so that he/she are doing rotations where there is minimal or no patient contact (such as medical imaging, pathology, etc....) for the first six months. This situation is very rare because most hospitals do not want to open themselves up to a huge liability situation. For the incoming resident that has been dropped from PA residency program due to inability of passing Part II or III, he/she will either try to scramble into any available residency spots in states that do not require Part III exam during the first year of residency training (such as New York or New Jersey) or just take the year off and try for another residency spot the following year. Failing the Part III exam puts a lot of stress on that incoming resident because he/she does not find out the results of the Part III exams until the end of June, which leaves he/she very little time to scramble for another spot. I had also mentioned that the incoming residents in the VA residency programs in PA do not require the incoming resident to pass Part III prior to start of the residency training. Since the VA residency programs operate under federal guidelines, the incoming residents have until end of the 1st year of residency training to take and pass Part III exam and obtain a full license prior to the start of the second year of residency training.

Lastly, a quick word about Part II exams. For those students interested in doing a residency in PA, you must take and pass the March administration of Part II exam, in order to sit for Part III exam. If he/she waits to take Part II exam in May, it will be too late for that student to qualify for the Part III exam.
Thanks... very good info.
 
FYI. NBPME Part III (PMLexis) registration forms are available for download at: http://www.nbpme.info/Downloads.htm
Make sure that you download the correct registration form for the state that you are applying for a license in or doing your residency training in.

If you are applying for any type (training, full, etc..) of Podiatric license in these states, you will not be eligible to take the Part III exam:
Alaska, Arkansas, Idaho, Mississippi, New Jersey, Oklahoma, Vermont, Wyoming
 
I am going to be a resident in NJ this upcoming July but I still want to take Part III in June. I was able to register for the exam by putting New York as the state I was applying for a license to. I called the NY licensing board and they were fine with everything and didn't require me to do anything else as far as paperwork for a NY license since I am not doing residency there. FYI for anyone that wants to take the exam but isn't required to by the state they will be in.
 
I am going to be a resident in NJ this upcoming July but I still want to take Part III in June. I was able to register for the exam by putting New York as the state I was applying for a license to. I called the NY licensing board and they were fine with everything and didn't require me to do anything else as far as paperwork for a NY license since I am not doing residency there. FYI for anyone that wants to take the exam but isn't required to by the state they will be in.
Why would you want to take pt3 before you start and pay out of pocket unless it's required?

Won't most residency programs pay for pt3 and/or surgical boards (or at least let you use CME money for the fees)... but only if you take the tests once you have actually begun residency?

...I suppose you will have more study time now than in Nov, but still, $900 is $900.
 
Why would you want to take pt3 before you start and pay out of pocket unless it's required?

Won't most residency programs pay for pt3 and/or surgical boards (or at least let you use CME money for the fees)... but only if you take the tests once you have actually begun residency?

...I suppose you will have more study time now than in Nov, but still, $900 is $900.

The policy on residency programs paying for Part 3 boards or the surgical boards will vary greatly from program to program. To my knowledge, majority of the residents use the CME money (if it is permitted by the hospital since many hospitals are very specific as to what CME money can be used for) to pay for the surgical board exams or simply pay out of pocket. I know of only one residency program in Philadelphia that actually do pay for the surgical board exams if taken at the end of the last year of residency training. As for Part 3, I think that there are more programs that might be willing to cover the cost of the Part 3 exam if taken during the residency. For students who are taking the Part 3 exam before they start residency training (such as those in Pennsylvania), the student will usually have to pay out of pocket because those students have not officially started their residency training. I do know of a few residency programs that do actually reimburse the residents for the Part 3 exam cost once they begin their residency training.

In DRFootball situation, his residency program will probably not pay for his Part 3 exam since NJ does not even recognizes the Part 3 board exam. So, it would not matter if DRFootball takes the exam before he starts or while he is in residency training. If he pays for it now and take the exam before he starts his residency training, he may have more CME money to use towards another conference, books, etc....
 
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