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Just got back from Coldplay, and a little more to do tonight. The funniest patient was this girl from Newfoundland (think Irish accent with a Canadian twist, so it's already funny) who had a vasovagal syncope attack on the stairs and was wearing 6 layers of clothing, complaining of being "hot". Her face was as white as chalk but as soon as we got her lying down w/ some O2 it came right back along with her LOC. Nice when you can actually do something and see a difference. 🙂
 
Praetorian said:
You should try digging around through a 3" incision on the side of base of the neck to find the carotid so you can embalm.....that's the ultimate way to learn vascular anatomy! +pad+

It was cool to see the vertebral arteries as well, but I couldn't find the Circle of Willis.
 
just a lowly MS1, and hate the question all the time do you know what you want to do"...yeah make thru this next semester with my sanity!!!!!!



but really, like others have said EM is way up there ( nearer the top of the list) along with, Peds Intensivist, Trauma Surgery, Cadriac Intensivist...........


please excuse any misspells havent had the coffee yet,but a morning +pad+ always gets the days started right 🙂



*edited due to lack of coffee*
 
EM tops my list along with neonatology (but I DON'T want to do six years post-grad!!!) and general peds. I just think I'd like EM more than either of those. I would like diagnostic rads, but I worry about it getting shipped offshore (oh, and I like patients)!
 
socute--does your school (or any specialty clubs) have any mentoring or shadowing programs? If they do, take advantage of it and spend time in EM, peds, & neonatology. They're pretty different fields in practice & you may be surprised at what you do and don't like.

I did this as an MS1 & found out that I actually absolutely hate what I had as my #1 specialty. It was also through MS1 shadowing that I discovered EM, which I really didn't know much about but thought I *might* like. 😀
 
I've been on the hospital peds ward a lot - liked it ok (but probably not enough to want to do it forever), been in the NICU for a few days - had a tough time, but liked it, working on getting into the ER. The EM club at my school has not been responsive, so I am working on the PD on the advice of my dean (waiting for the PD to return my e-mail). I've been in community peds a lot recently and honestly it makes me want to pull my hair out. I'm surprised because I sort of liked community internal medicine when I volunteered in undergrad.
 
DrMom said:
Finally raining here (we haven't had measurable rain since Oct 1!)

Yup, here too. Same big system, I suspect. All that brown stuff in my yard seems confused yet ever so appreciative.

Take care,
Jeff
 
socuteMD said:
I've been on the hospital peds ward a lot - liked it ok (but probably not enough to want to do it forever), been in the NICU for a few days - had a tough time, but liked it, working on getting into the ER. The EM club at my school has not been responsive, so I am working on the PD on the advice of my dean (waiting for the PD to return my e-mail). I've been in community peds a lot recently and honestly it makes me want to pull my hair out. I'm surprised because I sort of liked community internal medicine when I volunteered in undergrad.


Ah, you're well on your way 🙂
 
DrMom said:
Ah, you're well on your way 🙂

Yeah, I don't think anyone has ever accused me of not knowing what I want 🙂 (I do reserve the right to change my mind, however). For now I am really trying to keep an open mind and work hard in my pre-clinical classes to keep my options open. I figure that no matter what people say, pre-clinical grades could end up being a tipping point. I've got the time, so why not give it my best?

Oh, and the best part is that if I can get in with the PD instead of through the EM club, I might end up being able to spend some time at a major city hospital 🙂. Cross your fingers for me!!!
 
COME ON PEOPLE! Wake up! Post. Entertain/distract me from GLYCOLYSIS. PLEASE!?!?!
 
socuteMD said:
COME ON PEOPLE! Wake up! Post. Entertain/distract me from GLYCOLYSIS. PLEASE!?!?!

I feel for you. I had my glycolysis, TCA, dehydrogenase, hell-fest yesterday. Now it's time to head to the anatomy lab. I spent so much time on the biochem B.S. (still didn't help my grade) that now I'm way, way behind on G.I. anatomy. Good Luck.
 
Eeek...you momentarily interrupted my self-pity. No more anatomy lab for this chica (thank goodness, I HATED IT!). I actually liked abdominal anatomy, though (and loved head and neck).
 
FoughtFyr said:
But when did the 20 "know"? I'm not saying that EMS folks are the majority of EM applicants. What I am saying is that if you asked all M1s what they were going to go into, only a small percentage would know. Of those who "knew" and were heading for EM, the majority (in M1) would have EMS experience. As the students continue, more and more are dawn to the specialty until the EMS folks are in the minority.

But that is just my opinion.

- H

Agreed a lot of people figured it out after m1 and during m2 yr. Then there are a lot of people who figured it out at the last moment. oThe ones who came in 100% EM were def those with EMS background. Thats just my experience with my class though.
 
Well for me I came to med school 100% EM and never stepped foot in an ambo. I was an ED tech for almost 5 years though cause we all know the REAL fun is in the ED 😛
I also know a dental student who switched to medschool after rotating through the ED in his dental training and then becoming hooked. I also know of several PAs who were 100% EM in medschool after their PA training/work. But yeah MOST of us gung hoers are probably EMTs/medics in former lives.
 
I came to med school with several years of emergency medical service as a medic and from the military. I decided to completely forget about EM and take every class and course seriously. I even took 3rd year clinicals so seriously that each one I did I almost convinced myself that I could do that particular specialty. I even took a NHSC scholarship my 2nd year thinking I would do either primary care or rural EM. Then when the government broke the news to me this year that there would be no way to do EM without defaulting, I told them where they could go. I had come full circle and found myself back at the doorstep of EM. But in retrospect, except for the incredibly large check I had to pay to get out of my obligation, it was still worth going this route. I saw too many of my former EMS buddies fall on their faces in med school because all they thought about was "I don't need to worry about that...I'm doing EM". And they were right in many respects, except that they still needed to know that stuff to do well on boards and get some interviews. Several had to go the extra mile to get into an EM program and others flat out did not get in. One is literally in Iraq now as a GMO because he didn't match into EM in the military match a few years back. Its okay to be goal directed, but I would suggest that for your first 2 years at least you think very little about what specialty you want to enter and instead think about what test is on Friday. You can always worry about specialty later if you do well with grades and scores, but its hard to work backwards.
 
corpsmanUP said:
I saw too many of my former EMS buddies fall on their faces in med school because all they thought about was "I don't need to worry about that...I'm doing EM". And they were right in many respects, except that they still needed to know that stuff to do well on boards and get some interviews. Several had to go the extra mile to get into an EM program and others flat out did not get in. One is literally in Iraq now as a GMO because he didn't match into EM in the military match a few years back. Its okay to be goal directed, but I would suggest that for your first 2 years at least you think very little about what specialty you want to enter and instead think about what test is on Friday. You can always worry about specialty later if you do well with grades and scores, but its hard to work backwards.

I'd go a little farther than that. EM is the widest specialty of all. You need to pay attention and do the work in years 1 and 2, because you're going to need it.

I use anatomy, micro, path, pharm every day. Biochem, well. . .sometimes
 
corpsmanUP said:
I came to med school with several years of emergency medical service as a medic and from the military. I decided to completely forget about EM and take every class and course seriously. I even took 3rd year clinicals so seriously that each one I did I almost convinced myself that I could do that particular specialty. I even took a NHSC scholarship my 2nd year thinking I would do either primary care or rural EM. Then when the government broke the news to me this year that there would be no way to do EM without defaulting, I told them where they could go. I had come full circle and found myself back at the doorstep of EM. But in retrospect, except for the incredibly large check I had to pay to get out of my obligation, it was still worth going this route. I saw too many of my former EMS buddies fall on their faces in med school because all they thought about was "I don't need to worry about that...I'm doing EM". And they were right in many respects, except that they still needed to know that stuff to do well on boards and get some interviews. Several had to go the extra mile to get into an EM program and others flat out did not get in. One is literally in Iraq now as a GMO because he didn't match into EM in the military match a few years back. Its okay to be goal directed, but I would suggest that for your first 2 years at least you think very little about what specialty you want to enter and instead think about what test is on Friday. You can always worry about specialty later if you do well with grades and scores, but its hard to work backwards.


I quote myself in response: 🙂

socutemd said:
I figure that no matter what people say, pre-clinical grades could end up being a tipping point. I've got the time, so why not give it my best?

The reason I do want to spend some time shadowing is that it is a good reminder of why I am putting myself through this hell, and at times can be an inspiration to work harder.
 
corpsmanUP and BKN thanks for the advice.....I like coming here to read because for the most part people here have the same sense of humor as I do (and is a good study break) and after just looking thru the pre-osteo and osteo threads, all are to whiney for me( which I will not do again)......plus like socute said, its good inspiration to be here to remind me why I am going thru stuyding on a beautiful Saturday afternoon instead of being poolside or at the beach.........alright well back to blood coagulation
 
BKN said:
I'd go a little farther than that. EM is the widest specialty of all. You need to pay attention and do the work in years 1 and 2, because you're going to need it.

I use anatomy, micro, path, pharm every day. Biochem, well. . .sometimes


I like the "little bit of everything" aspect of EM. It has been good to go into every rotation knowing that I'll be learning *something* useful to EM. Heck, I'm even going to do a hematopathology elective & the attending has told me all kinds of things important to EM that she can cover with me.

But I'm glad to hear that biochem isn't a daily issue. 😉
 
But I'm glad to hear that biochem isn't a daily issue. 😉[/QUOTE]
amen to that!
streetdoc
 
DrMom said:
I like the "little bit of everything" aspect of EM. It has been good to go into every rotation knowing that I'll be learning *something* useful to EM. Heck, I'm even going to do a hematopathology elective & the attending has told me all kinds of things important to EM that she can cover with me.

When are you doing your hemepath elective? I start mine on Monday! I am so excited. Maybe we can compare notes. 🙂

I just noticed that you are located in the midst of an ass spasm. 😕 :laugh:

Sorry to those of you that are studying biochem. :barf: It will be over soon!
 
beary said:
When are you doing your hemepath elective? I start mine on Monday! I am so excited. Maybe we can compare notes. 🙂

I just noticed that you are located in the midst of an ass spasm. 😕 :laugh:

Sorry to those of you that are studying biochem. :barf: It will be over soon!


I'm doing hemepath in March. The attending is an acquaintance of mine & she's wanting to cater to my EM needs. She also said that if she can find a pt who'll agree to it I can do a bone marrow aspiration 😀

Since you're doing yours first, maybe you can give me some pointers after a while. 🙂
 
Big party at my house tonite.. Not too much space but we can find a way to fit in 20 or so people! Should be great. I have a lot of liquor and wine and I dont want to have to move it. This will be the last "rager" at my house with the exception of the annual "kegs and Eggs" event we do for St pattys day which typically ends up with a few good stories, people getting thrown out of bars by 2 pm and of course little vomitus, NB/NB..
 
Off to babysit. Cross your fingers for me that NO ONE gave them SUGAR today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Soup said:
I had my glycolysis, TCA, dehydrogenase,

Hmmm, these words that you speak seem somehow familiar in a very distant sort of way. Almost as if at one point in my life I was forced to shove them into my brain only to be regurgitated again and promptly forgotten shortly thereafter.

Nah, I think I just read them in a post one time. 🙂

Thank God that stuff is over for me. You'll get over it soon enough as well.

Take care,
Jeff
 
No time to update our standings today, though I am sure we are doing quite well. Ill update tomorrow evening! Time to get Crunk as my people say 🙂
 
EctopicFetus said:
Big party at my house tonite.. Not too much space but we can find a way to fit in 20 or so people! Should be great. I have a lot of liquor and wine and I dont want to have to move it. This will be the last "rager" at my house with the exception of the annual "kegs and Eggs" event we do for St pattys day which typically ends up with a few good stories, people getting thrown out of bars by 2 pm and of course little vomitus, NB/NB..

Party over here at my house as well. Just picked up some mini-kegs from the liquor store and they're getting nice and frosty in the fridge right now. I wish you luck!
 
EctopicFetus said:
No time to update our standings today, though I am sure we are doing quite well. Ill update tomorrow evening! Time to get Crunk as my people say 🙂

While you're getting crunk, I can certaintly post that for you.

Us - 33,454

Them - 35,159

That's a difference of 1,705, good job everyone. +pad+ Any predictions for when 1,000 will fall?
 
Hey Ectopic and Leviathan:
Could you please, please, please have some for me, I am stuck again showing how pathetic my life is and switched from blood coagulation, to heart and mediastinum stuck at school ( at least there are others here too so I am not alone).... till I read your posts I was looking forward to going home and having a glass of wine and then going to bed ....I have become such a cheap date that if I drank more then that it would be all over..........thanks for contributing to the wannabe deliquency of MSI's :laugh:

Hope you all have fun tonight :laugh: and dont do a lot of :barf:
 
EctopicFetus said:
Time to get Crunk as my people say
Wait...I thought you were Jewish? 😕 I've never heard a Jewish person say that. OK, maybe one of the Beastie Boys.... :meanie:
 
Tired, home from babysitting, kids were kinda difficult AGAIN, but at least I have money in my pocket (especially helpful now that all the Christmas gift cards are running low!).
 
1993 🙂 a year I REALLY don't remember. There were no Olympic games associated with it. Whereas 1992 was the year of Kim Zmeskal's big choke at the Barcelona games and Shannon Miller's surprise performances. 1994, I believe was the year that Nancy Kerrigan got clubbed in the knee.
 
1996 was the year of the "Mag 7". It was pretty cool to watch our team win gold, but it would have been a bit sweeter had it come before the fall of the Soviet bloc.

Shannon Miller and Dominique Moceanu petitioned their ways onto the team due to injury. I was at the trials, and was very disappointed not to see them! Once in Atlanta, Dominique M. unveiled a new floor routine to the tune of (southerndoc ought to appreciate this) "Devil Went Down to Georgia." It was, as expected, a HUGE hit with the crowd.
 
On a side note, during the 1996 Olympics I was stuck in a gym that was up a fire escape, had no windows, and only one door to the outside. It was about 9 billion degrees outside and who knows how many inside. I was training 8 hours a day. We got an hour for lunch break, which we would all spend at someone's house, crowded around the TV watching the tapes from the previous night. I spent more hours training that week than my dad spent at work
 
socuteMD said:
On a side note, during the 1996 Olympics I was stuck in a gym that was up a fire escape, had no windows, and only one door to the outside. It was about 9 billion degrees outside and who knows how many inside. I was training 8 hours a day. We got an hour for lunch break, which we would all spend at someone's house, crowded around the TV watching the tapes from the previous night. I spent more hours training that week than my dad spent at work
I think you just gave yourself away.
 
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