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Do any other medical schools require students to keep a diary or a log of the patients that they see during their clerkships? What format do they require (e.g., hard copy, computer/web-based)?
 
Caffeinated said:
Do any other medical schools require students to keep a diary or a log of the patients that they see during their clerkships? What format do they require (e.g., hard copy, computer/web-based)?
we do. we keep up with it on our palms. it's a pain, but i think its req for accredidation.
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We had a hardcopy one but each coordinator usually just forgets about it as its a lot of work for him/her.
 
yes, with a pda, aka Pain in DA A$$
 
Caffeinated said:
Do any other medical schools require students to keep a diary or a log of the patients that they see during their clerkships? What format do they require (e.g., hard copy, computer/web-based)?

We do for various clerkships as well, and it is a redundant and painful waste of time. Format varies, but generally is something to the effect of a demographic blurb (44 y/o AA femal), Dx, Tx, procedures/type of patient care involved. When the clerkship directors are feeling especially spicey, they also ask for......oh boy, a literature reference!

-PB
 
It is definitely not required for accredidation. A couple of rotations I have been on have "required" it, but no one really cares in the end whether or not you logged the patients you saw. All in all, I think I partially completed 1 log in my OB/GYN rotation 3rd year.
 
At my school they take the logging in crap pretty seriously. We don't have to do this for every rotation but on the rotations we do watch out if you don't log in your BS "patient encounter" and procedures or you will get an Incomplete in the rotation--on my surgery rotation we actually had to get the attendings signature for each encounters/procedures. What a pain in the neck for them. I think it is the administration's way of showing that they don't trust that you are actually doing anything on your rotations.The funny thing is that a lot of the time, these logs would be VERY easy to fake....I guess it's all about appearances folks
 
for those using PDAs, what programs do you use or is it just a memo?
 
We do a log for every rotation but only for procedures observed, assited, or performed. We turn in the log at the end of the rotation or we get an incomplete. If we didn't do any procedures (like path) then we just turn in a log that says "No Procedures". Since we don't have exams for our rotations it is part of our grade along with the attending evaluation.
 
We do a log for every rotation but only for procedures observed, assisted, or performed. We turn in the log at the end of the rotation or we get an incomplete. If we didn't do any procedures (like path) then we just turn in a log that says "No Procedures". Since we don't have exams for our rotations it is part of our grade along with the attending evaluation.
 
Caffeinated said:
Do any other medical schools require students to keep a diary or a log of the patients that they see during their clerkships? What format do they require (e.g., hard copy, computer/web-based)?

We have to keep logs of skills/procedures/diagnoses that are signed off by attendings/residents (i.e. schizophrenia, biliary tract disease, pelvic exams, wound suturing, etc). In order to graduate we have to meet a minimum set of requirements for each rotation (neuro, medicine, surgery etc). Our format is hard copy and PDA.
 
El_Duderino said:
It is definitely not required for accredidation. A couple of rotations I have been on have "required" it, but no one really cares in the end whether or not you logged the patients you saw. All in all, I think I partially completed 1 log in my OB/GYN rotation 3rd year.

We've been told by numerous people that they are required for accreditation. Apparently the people overseeeing medical schools want an idea of the types of patients and cases we are seeing and of the procecdures we are doing.
 
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