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pay differences in military?

Discussion in 'Military Dentistry' started by pauljeekim, May 16, 2007.

  1. pauljeekim

    pauljeekim New Member 2+ Year Member

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    i am committed to doing the hpsp program, and am still debating between the air force and army. however, there seems to be a discrepancy between what an O-3 will make in the two branches. the air force recruiter says between 65k to 70k and the army recruiter says between 57k and 63k.

    i am somewhat confused because some army residents that i have talked to by phone have also confirmed that their counterparts in the air force make a little bit more. can someone clarify the different bonuses or pays that may exist?
     
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  3. MaxAnn

    MaxAnn 10+ Year Member

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    I have a related question: The Army recruiter told me that the monthly stipend for the hpsp was around $1300 as did the Navy, but the Air Force recruiter said that it was $1400 or so.

    Are there different stipend amounts for different branches or are some recruiters just not using up to date information?
     
  4. jmill0

    jmill0 Licensed to Drill 10+ Year Member

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    Pay is the same across the board, whether it be HPSP stipend or active duty pay. The ONLY difference is the housing allowance. This depends if you have dependents (married and/or children) as well as location. All bonuses are the same.
     
  5. shamrock2006

    shamrock2006 5+ Year Member

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    i think the stipend right now is roughly 1319...and it goes up a little bit every june I believe...although its not really that big of an increase.
     
  6. shamrock2006

    shamrock2006 5+ Year Member

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    oh...and there is also specialty pay....so if ur an orthodontist...you'll get your base pay, allowances, etc...plus added pay for your specialty. I dont know how much it is though. And I've also heard it's easier to get promoted as a specialist.
     
  7. SquidsLife

    SquidsLife Navy to NiTi 2+ Year Member

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    Those guys are just rounding the dollar amount to the nearest hundred. Actually, as a recruitment strategy, the Air Force recruiter is doing a better job by rounding up the dollar amount...making it sound better than it really is. Maybe THAT's why the Air Force fills their slots faster than the other branches;)
     
  8. SquidsLife

    SquidsLife Navy to NiTi 2+ Year Member

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    Well, there's a big difference between being a specialist and being a board certified specialist as far as money goes. You only get the extra money if you're board certified. Being a specialist plays a big part in multi-year retention bonus (MRB)..check this site out and scroll down to dental officers

    http://www.militaryconnection.com/2007-pay-charts/2007-medical-dental-pay.asp

    Did you know that the military gives a higher MRB to a comp/operative dentist than an orthodontist? What a joke, right? It's the military way of trying to get general dentist's to stay in longer....they are more necessary than any other type of dentist...a "go anywhere jack of all trades".
     
  9. MaxAnn

    MaxAnn 10+ Year Member

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    Squids,

    What do you mean a comp/operative dentist? Does only the Navy have this type of certification? I am curious.
     
  10. Midoc

    Midoc Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    He is talking about the 63 bravos. The guys who did the 2 year AEGD programs.
     
  11. MaxAnn

    MaxAnn 10+ Year Member

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    I don't understand. Can you elaborate?
     
  12. Midoc

    Midoc Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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  13. shamrock2006

    shamrock2006 5+ Year Member

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    ok so let me ask a few things about these websites posted above. For the comprehensive dentists as an example, are these things basically geared towards those who believe they will make a career in the military? Are these ways of trying to get dentists to stay in longer? What makes that 2 year AEGD program better than doing the 1 year?
     
  14. MaxAnn

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  15. Midoc

    Midoc Senior Member 7+ Year Member

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    Shamrock - If someone wishes to stay in the military and do their 20 years, there is a very strong push to specialize. You're correct that the 2 year program is primarily geared toward this need. The two year program is more academically oriented and you get more exposure to orthodontic treatments than the 1 year program.


    On the same website I was able to find this information about the airforce comprehensive dentists.
    And on the following website is information about the navy comprehensive dentist.
    http://www.bethesda.med.navy.mil/Careers/Postgraduate_Dental_School/Comprehensive_Dentistry/
     
  16. SquidsLife

    SquidsLife Navy to NiTi 2+ Year Member

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    I don't really know how the other branches operate. The comprehensive dentistry program (2 years) for the Navy is an inservice program at Bethesda. The operative dentistry program for the Navy is an outservice program that is 2 years as well (more biomaterials exposure for the operative program). I've heard that the Air Force program is better than the Navy comp program...more clinical exposure to advanced procedures.

    Anyways, my whole point earlier was that the military is paying more $$ to folks who do these programs with the multi-year retention bonus.....meaning the military WANTS more of these types of dentists, especially in the current state of downsizing....the ultimate general dentist.....drill,fill, and kill :D
     
  17. MaxAnn

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    I think you are right. A friend of mine at the Washington Navy Yard told me that the Navy is getting away from adding more specialists and concentrating on comprehensive dentists. I guess it makes sense, but I wonder is it really possible to be effective as a "jack of all trades?" The bonus money sure is a good incentive.
     
  18. dentalguy

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    So now that I have been exposed to dentistry....1 year of dschool done!! I am strongly considering the 2 yr AEGD with the Army. A couple of questions,

    Is the two year THAT much better than the 1 year AEGD?

    Does the two year involve a research requirement or is it all clinical?

    How competitive are the AEGD's (1 or 2 year)?
     
  19. MaxAnn

    MaxAnn 10+ Year Member

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    I think the Army 2 Aegd is in Hawaii, but the hardest thing would be that the 2 year Aegd will not count towards payback time, which means you would have 6 years of active duty payback. However, this isn't that bad if you end up enjoying Army life and want to make it a career. I know a few people who had no interest in anytime of service past that payback, but found their calling in the military. Stranger things have happened.
     
  20. ChiefSchlep

    ChiefSchlep Banned Banned

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    You may get paid more for the 2-yr AEGD, DentalGuy, but in your case they would dock you a "Schlep" fine for being the biggest schlep in the army. Its a title you are bound to be stuck with during your military tenure. The fine would counteract any bonus you receive for AEGD.

    Have a good day.
     
  21. pmoney

    pmoney Senior Member 10+ Year Member

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    What does schlep fine mean in layman's terms?
     
  22. dentalguy

    dentalguy Senior Member 10+ Year Member

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    Schlep in laymans terms= a dental student who wants to be as good as dentalguy but can never develop his hand skills as fast as dentalguy

    A schlep also would not be granted any mercy when dentalguy decides to bring the pain train
     

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