PCOM vs Low Tier MD School

[Medstudent85]

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Please, can we all try to be civil and not bash any particular program and just discuss your honest opinion.

From what I have gathered reading this forum, PCOM is regarded by most as the top DO school in the nation.

If you were faced with the decision of attending PCOM, or a low tier MD such as any Puerto Rican school (just to cite an example)

Who would you choose? Why ?

 

[TexasTriathlete]

I'd go to PCOM, because of the cool logo. The flame is a force to be reckoned with.

 

[Chocolate Bear]

This could get ugly.

But...PCOM is not necessarily the best DO school. Nor is Harvard/Duke/JH/WashU necessarily the best MD school. No way to objectify this completely.

I would not leave this country in order to be able to practice medicine, unless it was my only hope. Even then, I might consider an ancillary position in healthcare, instead.

 

[TexasTriathlete]

I am fortunate to have been blessed with cool logos throughout my higher education.

There is little doubt that the best logo in the country is the Texas Longhorn head that looks kind of like the outline of a uterus. And now I get the flame for med school. How lucky can one guy be?

 

[Medstudent85]

This could get ugly.

But...PCOM is not necessarily the best DO school. Nor is Harvard/Duke/JH/WashU necessarily the best MD school. No way to objectify this completely.

I would not leave this country in order to be able to practice medicine, unless it was my only hope. Even then, I might consider an ancillary position in healthcare, instead.

Well, you are not leaving the country. They are still 100% accredited US schools. I just cited Puerto Rico as an example. I could also include Meharry or U. East Carolina in that list.

Also, I am fluent in spanish, so that wouldn't be an issue

 

[engineeredout]

Yay I got to do this before everyone else.

 

[beachblonde]

I would pick the school that was a best fit for me, regardless of DO or MD (which, for some people, might be part of the "fit" issue).

You could pick any two or three schools and throw them up and say "which one should I go to?" but it's not that simple. Without knowing what objective and subjective criteria are important to a person, it's impossible to tell.

 

[Chocolate Bear]

Well, you are not leaving the country. They are still 100% accredited US schools. I just cited Puerto Rico as an example. I could also include Meharry or U. East Carolina in that list.

I consider PR to be outside of my definition of the 50 states, which, to me, is "the country."

As for your other schools listed, just go wherever accepts you and you could be happy there.

 

[Medstudent85]

I'm not trying to beat on a dead camel,

Well when I look at a school, I dont care if its DO or MD... I look at what chance do I have of landing certain residencies. I would wear the DO letters just as proud as any MD letter. I'm concerned because so far I have shadowed a few specialties, and it seems like the ones I'm interested in require very competitive scores. So I would be interseted in knowing which shcool could give me a better education, and better chances to land such residencies.

 

[scpod]

.... I just cited Puerto Rico as an example. I could also include....East Carolina in that list....

Hmmm... East Carolina has never taken an out-of-state student in it's entire history. Unless you're from NC, you might as well take it off of your list of "low tier" schools. They don't want you.

 

[Medstudent85]

Its a question that doesnt necessarily apply to me, but It could apply to many

 

[scpod]

.... So I would be interseted in knowing which shcool could give me a better education, and better chances to land such residencies.

I don't know of an American school which doesn't have graduates in good, competitive residencies. It really depends more on you than on the school. If you are hoping that the school's reputation will give you a boost....it may or may not happen.

Remember that when you interview for residency you will be working for several years with the attendings, other residents and staff. They are more impressed by your work ethic and how you fit in than where you went to school. They don't want to work with people from any schools who are asses, regardless of where they graduated.

 

[Medstudent85]

I don't know of an American school which doesn't have graduates in good, competitive residencies. \.

I'm not going to give you names, but there are many MD and DO schools that have not matched Derm or Integrated Plastics for a LOONG time.

 

[JaggerPlate]

Please, can we all try to be civil and not bash any particular program and just discuss your honest opinion.

From what I have gathered reading this forum, PCOM is regarded by most as the top DO school in the nation.

If you were faced with the decision of attending PCOM, or a low tier MD such as any Puerto Rican school (just to cite an example)

Who would you choose? Why ?

So you don't want to get flamed, BUT you're comparing the 'best' DO school with the 'worst' MD school and asking which is better. Nice one.

If you're not going to study medicine in America, the Puerto Rican schools are the way to go. They are accredited in basically every way that US Allo schools are, BUT ... you need to be fluent in Spanish to attend. However, and this is fact:

PCOM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any non-US med school. I'd be willing to say PCOM >>> Many US Allo schools as well.

 

[JaggerPlate]

I'm not going to give you names, but there are many MD and DO schools that have not matched Derm or Integrated Plastics for a LOONG time.

You know absolutely nothing. 1. Going to a US MD school in no way guarantees you can land a competitive residency, 2. the DO derm residencies match differently than MD - meaning that they don't show up on match lists, 3. try matching integrated plastics from a non-US med school, and 4. PCOM actually has a plastics fellowship. God you're the perfect example of a delusional pre-med, just leave the thread before everyone kindly tells you how misinformed you truly are, and once again, don't worry about matching 'plastics and derm' (which is how schools are ranked, right??) you'll never be in the situation to deal with it.

 

[Medstudent85]

wow ... Jaggerplate, you have some anger issues..


🙂

 

[Medstudent85]

I would love to be told how misinformed I am, that way I could understand the situation better.. Isnt that the purpose of this forum??? If I knew everything , then I wouldnt be here asking questions? .. I apoligize for having to stir your hands in the direction of a response.

 

[jwied73]

Please, can we all try to be civil and not bash any particular program and just discuss your honest opinion.

From what I have gathered reading this forum, PCOM is regarded by most as the top DO school in the nation.

If you were faced with the decision of attending PCOM, or a low tier MD such as any Puerto Rican school (just to cite an example)

Who would you choose? Why ?

PCOM... duhhh! without getting into either the MD/DO or "best DO school" debate, PCOM wins hands down. I'd rather stay in the States, and lets face it, DO's get better training anyway. 😀

 

[Medstudent85]

Yea, I'm leaning towards PCOM (or another highly ranked DO school) (assuming I'd get in.... 3.2 gpa , 31 mcats, decent ECs) over not so highly ranked MD schools , because of my specialty interests.

 

[JaggerPlate]

I would love to be told how misinformed I am, that way I could understand the situation better.. Isnt that the purpose of this forum??? If I knew everything , then I wouldnt be here asking questions? .. I apoligize for having to stir your hands in the direction of a response.

I accept your apology ... it was the right thing to do. Here is why you are misinformed:

1. It is the calling card of the pre-med to rank schools based on how many people they match into dermatology and plastic surgery. People who do this are the same people who make threads asking which branch of medicine is paid the highest, and also the one's who compare salaries in orthodontics vs plastic surgery ... but their personal statement will read 'they want to help people.'
2. Thinking that going to an MD school will give you the opportunity to waltz into a derm or plastics residency is laughable. These residencies are extremely hard to get into and unless you have fantastic Step 1 scores, research, good letters of reference, great pre-clinical grades, maybe some AOA action going on ... you can just dream on.
3. DO dermatology matches as a second year after you apply from completing a transitional internship. This means that you NEVER see DO derm on match lists (though last year there were 3-4 MD derm) but a lot of those 'transitional/rotation internships' you see on lists like PCOM are gonna go into derm.
4. You would consider leaving the country to study medicine over a school as well respected and as connected as PCOM simply because it would be a DO behind your name.
5. You ask offensive questions in the DO forums and don't expect to be flamed.

These are some of the reasons why I personally feel you are misinformed. I'm glad your now starting to see why you should attend PCOM (by the way, you better have an acceptance to that school in hand because otherwise this argument is sooo pointless, and if you're just assuming you'll be accepted to PCOM- HA) and hopefully you understand why I hit you.

 

[Medstudent85]

Thanks for your response, I have not been accepted anywhere yet. Based on my stats I am a hopeful in the top DO schools, and in the low Tier MD schools. I really have not asked any questions that may be offensive.

Are you implying that derm or plastic people don't want to help people?

Making them the most competitive surgeries, then that would lead to saying that the top medical students dont want to help people?

you are helpful, but your views are skewed.

 

[Cp22kjer]

Yea, I'm leaning towards PCOM (or another highly ranked DO school) (assuming I'd get in.... 3.2 gpa , 31 mcats, decent ECs) over not so highly ranked MD schools , because of my specialty interests.

Even though PCOM is godlike on this forum you should realize that there are other DO schools that will provide just as good of an education. That being said don't limit yourself if you were to get rejected for some reason at PCOM.

 

[Medstudent85]

Even though PCOM is godlike on this forum .

Yea it seems that way, every post I read pretty much agrees with it being at the top.

 

[Cp22kjer]

Yea it seems that way, every post I read pretty much agrees with it being at the top.

It certainly is at the "top". But this thread has shown how the term "top" is dynamic/dependent on the applicant. And if you are avoiding the FMG route, it may behoove you to look into other DO schools that are comparable to PCOM to ensure you do get in somewhere this year.

I would suggest reading this thread if you haven't already: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=561910

 

[Medstudent85]

it may behoove you to look into other DO schools that are comparable to PCOM to ensure you do get in somewhere this year.

Of course! . I'm applying to PCOM, NSU-COM, CCOM, DMU-COM, and possibly adding others.

 

[rkaz]

I'd be willing to say PCOM >>> Many US Allo schools as well.

Are people referring to PCOM-Philly or PCOM-GA here?? Or are they similar?

 

[Medstudent85]

Pretty sure they mean PCOM-Philly,

 

[JaggerPlate]

Thanks for your response, I have not been accepted anywhere yet. Based on my stats I am a hopeful in the top DO schools, and in the low Tier MD schools. I really have not asked any questions that may be offensive.

I really wouldn't assume that you would be accepted at PCOM just because you have competitive stats. For example, in 2006 4,397 people applied to PCOM with a 6.2% acceptance rate, and 1 in 16 applicants (out of state) were granted admission. (http://www.medschoolready.com/app/schooldetails.asp?ID=189&DH=2 stats may be a little off, but you get my point).
So remember that DO schools are selective, and in no way should you assume you will get in. Your stats are good, but as you can see, it's a selective process. I also think this conversation would be a lot more relevant if you had an acceptance.

Also, about the offensive comment ... despite what you would like to think, your comments are offensive. You are asking a forum of pre-DO and DO students who have busted their asses to get into DO schools, which is better: One of the oldest, most respected, and most selective DO schools, or the lowest, off shore MD school??? See how that might ruffle some feathers??

Are you implying that derm or plastic people don't want to help people?

Absolutely not. Derm and Plastics are two extremely important specialties that help millions of people, my point was that everyone always wants to know how to get into Derm and Plastics because they make good money. The people who ask are generally the pre-meds who don't have the best intentions. It's a common thing around here.

Making them the most competitive surgeries, then that would lead to saying that the top medical students dont want to help people?

Once again, see my above point. It's also interesting to point out though that these two fields are some of the most competitive, and they are also some of the best compensation wise. On the other side of the coin, FP is one of the worst compensation specialties and surprisingly ... it's the least competitive. If you want to be a dermatologist because you truly enjoy learning about skin disorders or have always wanted to be one then that's great ... but if you suddenly want to be a derm because they work 40 hours a week with no call and make good money ... then people will probably question your motives on this board.

you are helpful, but your views are skewed.

I can be very helpful if motivated ... and I really don't see how my views are skewed - being an ass doesn't skew my views.

 

[JaggerPlate]

Are people referring to PCOM-Philly or PCOM-GA here?? Or are they similar?

I was talking about Philly, but PCOM-GA is a new school with a bad ass big brother standing behind it ... I bet they will be great.

 

[Medstudent85]

I said I was a "hopeful" at those schools, I would never assume an acceptance until its in my hand.

There's no need to be an ass to prove me wrong, since I don't know much.

 

[JaggerPlate]

I said I was a "hopeful" at those schools, I would never assume an acceptance until its in my hand.

There's no need to be an ass to prove me wrong, since I don't know much.

Hahah, I'm not trying to be an ass to prove you wrong ... most of the time people just think I'm an ass. Also, you're gonna want to ask to close one of these threads (you have one in pre-Allo also) because its against TOS to create 'cross threads.'

 

[Medstudent85]

Well, I posted it on both threads because it applies to both md and do , so it would be nice to get responses from both fields. If you look , there are people on the MD threat that don't bother to click on the Pre-DO forums,

 

[Medstudent85]

most of the time people just think I'm an ass. .'

THat should give you a clue as to what you are ... hehe.

 

[JaggerPlate]

Well, I posted it on both threads because it applies to both md and do , so it would be nice to get responses from both fields. If you look , there are people on the MD threat that don't bother to click on the Pre-DO forums,

Super idea ... also against TOS.

THat should give you a clue as to what you are ... hehe.

Nope. People just don't like being smacked down for their stupid posts and hate it even more when people are realistic and don't sugar coat.

 

[iatetheworm]

If you're not going to study medicine in America, the Puerto Rican schools are the way to go. They are accredited in basically every way that US Allo schools are, BUT ... you need to be fluent in Spanish to attend. However, and this is fact:

PCOM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any non-US med school. I'd be willing to say PCOM >>> Many US Allo schools as well.

in keeping with your tone of being brutish...

If your comments regarding PCOM being "better" than any medical school outside of this country are 100% sincere, than you're the uninformed pre-med 'round these parts.

Now, maybe you're thinkin..."alright worm, you jerkface, it's my OPINION that PCOM is better than any non-US school." Well, allow me to take the reigns of the dogmatic express from your hands for a moment and tell you why your opinion is wrong...

Karolinska, Oxford, Trinity, Cambridge, Sackler, all the Canadian medical schools...the list could go on. There are some OUTSTANDING medical schools outside of the 'ol US. Are you sure PCOM is better than all of them? The point here is not to get into a pissing contest...it's to pause and think before you hit "Submit Reply."

Now, perhaps you're trying to emphasize to medstudent85 that matching into a US residency might be easier from PCOM than a random foreign school since you have both allo and osteo residencies available...in which case that's fine...but your method of conveying this point is, at best, terrible.

You, my friend, need some qualifiers on your blanket statements. Without them, you kinda sound like "PCOM is my mommy...and mommy is always right. What!?! Somebody is questioning mommy’s greatness? Then they're a poopface d-bag!" when maybe you mean to say "PCOM is a great medical school--do well here and you'll get where you wanna go. Matching from a foreign school might be tough given the way the match process works." Qualifiers: use ‘em.

Oh, and Puerto Rico is part of America.

 

[JaggerPlate]

in keeping with your tone of being brutish...

If your comments regarding PCOM being "better" than any medical school outside of this country are 100% sincere, than you're the uninformed pre-med 'round these parts.

Now, maybe you're thinkin..."alright worm, you jerkface, it's my OPINION that PCOM is better than any non-US school." Well, allow me to take the reigns of the dogmatic express from your hands for a moment and tell you why your opinion is wrong...

Karolinska, Oxford, Trinity, Cambridge, Sackler, all the Canadian medical schools...the list could go on. There are some OUTSTANDING medical schools outside of the 'ol US. Are you sure PCOM is better than all of them? The point here is not to get into a pissing contest...it's to pause and think before you hit "Submit Reply."

Now, perhaps you're trying to emphasize to medstudent85 that matching into a US residency might be easier from PCOM than a random foreign school since you have both allo and osteo residencies available...in which case that's fine...but your method of conveying this point is, at best, terrible.

You, my friend, need some qualifiers on your blanket statements. Without them, you kinda sound like "PCOM is my mommy...and mommy is always right. What!?! Somebody is questioning mommy's greatness? Then they're a poopface d-bag!" when maybe you mean to say "PCOM is a great medical school--do well here and you'll get where you wanna go. Matching from a foreign school might be tough given the way the match process works." Qualifiers: use ‘em.

Oh, and Puerto Rico is part of America.

Which state is Puerto Rico again???
-Puerto Rico (IPA: /ˌpwertoˈriko/), officially the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico is a self-governing unincorporated territory of the United States

-The Supreme Court of Puerto Rico and the Puerto Rican Secretary of Justice determined that Puerto Rican citizenship exists and was recognized in the Constitution of Puerto Rico.

-Its current powers are all delegated by the United States Congress and lack full protection under the United States Constitution

So the Puerto Ricans can be independent citizens of Puerto Rico, are unincorporated into the United States, and not protected by our constitution ... but are part of America.

You're pathetic. My point, as you kinda danced around, was that PCOM was going to give you a much better lift in practicing in the US than any foreign medical school ... and I am right. I'm sure the list you rambled off is fantastic, but try going to oxford, completing a surgical residency in the UK, and practicing over here ... wouldn't work. Also, try applying to the US from Oxford as anything besides an FMG ... wouldn't work.

I also AM not a PCOM fan boy by any means. The reason it was used in discussion is because the OP brought it up. I also was unaware my statements would be picked over so throughly, otherwise I many not have been so preachy in my blanket claims. However, it doesn't change the fact that you are far better off going to any US medical school to practice in the US, you would have to apply to US residencies as an FMG from somewhere like Oxford - which would place you behind DOs in preference, and you cannot complete a residency overseas and then simply practice with a valid license in the US, etc etc etc.

Finally, no one cares what you have to say.

edit: I just realized you joined two months ago and have ten posts ... I shouldn't have wasted my breathe, honestly no one cares what you have to say.

 

[Druggernaut]

Now, maybe you're thinkin..."alright worm, you jerkface, it's my OPINION that PCOM is better than any non-US school." Well, allow me to take the reigns of the dogmatic express from your hands for a moment and tell you why your opinion is wrong...

Karolinska, Oxford, Trinity, Cambridge, Sackler, all the Canadian medical schools...the list could go on. There are some OUTSTANDING medical schools outside of the 'ol US. Are you sure PCOM is better than all of them?

It's better than all those schools for a US resident just because they're graduating from this country, and don't have to jump through the hoops of working in the US after completing their education abroad. It may not be as good academically, but in terms of results as a person who would like to practice in the United States, it's better.

Anyway, for the original poster, keep in mind that PCOM and osteopathic schools in general seem to weigh previous life experiences a fair amount in their selection process. If I remember correctly, something along the lines of 20% of PCOM's accepted students have a master's degree. They also say that they actively look for people who are underrepresented in medicine. I know you say you aren't calling it a sure thing, but not all of your posts sound that way.

You performance determines your residency, not your degree. The emergency department I work for calls a neurosurgery group headed up by a DO when they have the need.

If given the choice between a DO school and US MD school, I'd probably lean towards the MD degree just because the MD degree appears more prestigious (shallow, I know). Plenty of DO schools are more expensive, too, and that would factor into the decision. But I'll be applying widely to both, since I'll be happy to be in anywhere.

 

[BCLumas]

JP delivers some great advice in this thread. I would seriously listen to him. Although he's brash (which is warranted in this case, IMO), he's 100% correct. Also, OP, you asked to be flamed for your comments here. Of course there are tons of people reading these threads looking to post advice for people looking to be accepted into an Osteopathic medical education. You posted a topic title that simply invites people to enter with an already defensive attitude, and continue the topic asking to compare PCOM, which you seem to think is the ultimate DO school, to some of the worst MD schools available to you. Flame worthy, IMO.

If you would really like an honest opinion from someone who does not think that PCOM is the #1, then try this: whatever your goals are, find out how you can get them accomplished and do this. Good luck.

 

[Colbert]

In terms of residencies, it will definitely behoove you to graduate from a school in the United States, so in terms of DO vs. anywhere out of the USA, DO wins.

In terms of "top DO" vs "low MD", it's something that few people besides some really old MDs and most pre-meds care about. You should apply to both, interview at both, disregard the letters that you'll be granted, and go to the school you'll be happiest at. You'll find out that the school you graduate from actually means very little in terms of difference in education or landing a residency, a whole-freaking-lot of medical school success depends on how much work you put in.

Evaluate the teaching styles (PBL vs traditional), the hospital rotations (where you will spend your third and fourth years), and, at least to me, the location is important. I am very happy at TouroCOM-NY even though it is a new osteopathic school because of the environment and location. I would probably be miserable if I went to any school that was more rurally located no matter what the reputation of the school was (and of course there are people who feel the complete opposite). I also plan to work in an urban setting so my clinical years will be much more beneficial if I am in a city and learning about disease/patients/culture/atmosphere here than if I was trained to predominately handle cases you will encounter in a rural setting (and yes, there is obvious overlap in what you will see).

 

[aliDO]

I'm not going to give you names, but there are many MD and DO schools that have not matched Derm or Integrated Plastics for a LOONG time.

My sister just graduated from west virginia (DO) not long ago and matched derm. West Virginia is very big on primary care and hardly ever matches certain specialties (not because it's not a great school, but more because of its mission and its student's choices). bottom line, it's not so much about the school as it is about you. if you're truly "good" enough to match those specialties you will. But honestly, If you want plastics, ect. you might not be happy at a DO school. I don't think PR is a bad choice if you are more interested in those fields. PCOM does rock though!

 

[0529710]

Thanks for your response, I have not been accepted anywhere yet. Based on my stats I am a hopeful in the top DO schools, and in the low Tier MD schools. I really have not asked any questions that may be offensive.

Are you implying that derm or plastic people don't want to help people?

Making them the most competitive surgeries, then that would lead to saying that the top medical students dont want to help people?

you are helpful, but your views are skewed.

Jaggerplate's response regarding why medstudent85 is misinformed was very well-written. Why did it confuse you, medstudent85? Did you even READ it? It sounds like you glanced at it, perceived it as "mean", and decided to call him an ass.

He's totally right: how could you be so *****ic as to possibly think we would NOT be offended by your ridiculous introduction to this thread? It was horribly tactless.

I'm gonna let you in on something, as well: if you want to get into ANY medschool, I don't care HOW pretty your EC's and MCATs are. Fact is, the final hurdle before any school will even consider you is the interview.

And boy, if you are as tactlessly imbecilic at your interviews as you've been in this thread, you better start applying to fold jeans at the Gap, cause there's no medschool that'll even think TWICE about you once they see you in person.

 

[iatetheworm]

Which state is Puerto Rico again???
-Puerto Rico (IPA: /ˌpwertoˈriko/), officially the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico is a self-governing unincorporated territory of the United States

-The Supreme Court of Puerto Rico and the Puerto Rican Secretary of Justice determined that Puerto Rican citizenship exists and was recognized in the Constitution of Puerto Rico.

-Its current powers are all delegated by the United States Congress and lack full protection under the United States Constitution

So the Puerto Ricans can be independent citizens of Puerto Rico, are unincorporated into the United States, and not protected by our constitution ... but are part of America.

Wow, 1/3 of your rant is directed at 8 words. You make some valid points here, but let me briefly respond: Bush and Cheney are PRs heads of state. US minimum wage laws apply. Their official currency is the US dollar. Their military defense is America's responsibility.

You're pathetic.

I know 🙁. Can you teach me the art of arrogance?

My point, as you kinda danced around, was that PCOM was going to give you a much better lift in practicing in the US than any foreign medical school ... and I am right. I'm sure the list you rambled off is fantastic, but try going to oxford, completing a surgical residency in the UK, and practicing over here ... wouldn't work. Also, try applying to the US from Oxford as anything besides an FMG ... wouldn't work.

I did not dance around your point--I just couldn't seem to find one. I do agree with your statement that when applying from Oxford to a US res you're still considered an FMG and it can be a hindrance in the match...that's 100% factual, though not particularly groundbreaking.

I also AM not a PCOM fan boy by any means. The reason it was used in discussion is because the OP brought it up. I also was unaware my statements would be picked over so throughly, otherwise I many not have been so preachy in my blanket claims.

Cool. And for the record I think PCOM is a great school.

However, it doesn't change the fact that you are far better off going to any US medical school to practice in the US, you would have to apply to US residencies as an FMG from somewhere like Oxford - which would place you behind DOs in preference

This tends to depend more on the PD at a given program...but I agree, you should have a pretty compelling reason to attend medical school abroad.

Finally, no one cares what you have to say.

Oh my god you're right. This point, with just a touch of unbridled dogma, culminates another in a series of your spectacular arguments...I'm gonna go find a bridge...

edit: I just realized you joined two months ago and have ten posts ... I shouldn't have wasted my breathe, honestly no one cares what you have to say.

Sacré bleu! My post count is only 10? I clearly I need to enhance this part of me...can you recommend some pills or pumps or something? How could I live without you're respect? Oh how do I....?


Now, before this gets too nasty, I'd like to say that I think you're trying to make good points here. I don't dig the fact that you were too rough with medstudent85 (and no, I don't know him/her). The guys seemed more uninformed than duplicitous. At the same time, I totally understand how people always bringing the MD vs DO stuff to this part of the forum gets pretty old.

Take care man, I'm done with this one.

 

[JaggerPlate]

I know 🙁. Can you teach me the art of arrogance?

Like you said ... it's an art form.

Cool. And for the record I think PCOM is a great school.

Me too.

Oh my god you're right. This point, with just a touch of unbridled dogma, culminates another in a series of your spectacular arguments...I'm gonna go find a bridge...

Can I have your thesaurus after the swan dive??

How could I live without you're respect? Oh how do I....?

Take it one day at a time ...

Now, before this gets too nasty, I'd like to say that I think you're trying to make good points here.

You're too kind.

I don't dig the fact that you were too rough with medstudent85 (and no, I don't know him/her). The guys seemed more uninformed than duplicitous.

Tough love, trial by fire, etc ...

Take care man, I'm done with this one.

Bye.

 

[DannMann99]

I had an elaborate post laid out and my DAMN computer screwed it up.

In short.

PCOM is great.

DO is better then FMG

Listen somewhat to JP. And watch for people who put way too much effort into their posts.

 

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And for the record, the ER club at my school had the program director from MUSC (medical university of south carolina) come speak to us today, and he said that, in his experience, DO's have a much easier time than FMGs landing a residency spot at most programs. An exception could be the northeast, like NY.

 

[ILikeFood]

Go to the low tier md school. More spots for me.

 

[TexasTriathlete]

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[anon y mous]

I said I was a "hopeful" at those schools, I would never assume an acceptance until its in my hand.

There's no need to be an ass to prove me wrong, since I don't know much.

Whereas you have a terrific MCAT for DO, I would think your gpa is at the lower end, or am I wrong?

I didn't even know PCOM was considered the best DO school until i read this thread. Maybe it's because I would never consider going there because i have no desire to be in Philly.

 

[Jwalker9]

QUICK QUIZ...

I'll play since im still up studying for SPOM Test.

1. The appearance of ___trilaminar disk__ indicates the beginning of gastrulation

2. The __posterior___ condensation gives rise to the deltoids, supinators, triceps brachii, and extensor carpi radialis longus and brevis muscles, among others.

3. What are the three classifications of joints? synnovial, fibrous, cartilagenous.

BOOYAH!

And for the record, the ER club at my school had the program director from MUSC (medical university of south carolina) come speak to us today, and he said that, in his experience, DO's have a much easier time than FMGs landing a residency spot at most programs. An exception could be the northeast, like NY.

I can confirm that this is what he said. He did mention that FMG's and DO's can still have some bias when doing elective rotations during 3rd year at academic MD hospitals, but that that is changing rapidly.

 

[DrBowtie]

Just for the record, the PR schools are LCME accredited and lumped in with the stateside MD schools for match statistics and all that jazz. So although geographically it is in the Carib, you can't really compare the educational component to the true Carib schools.