PeaceCorps before Medical School

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Hey Guys,

I really need some advice. I'm going to be a senior next year in undergrad, I'm planning to take 5 years because I added a minor and I'm doing a thesis project for research. I'm done with all my prereq classes, but I haven't taken the MCAT yet.

This year, I think life has been pulling me to a new direction. Traveling has always been something I really loved doing and though I still have a lot extensive research to do on this, I really feel that I have a calling to serve for the PeaceCorps. I would really love to put my whole heart into serving others without the notion of school always in the back of my head. And it would be really amazing to live in a foreign country for 2.5 years. I talked to my dad about the possibility of dedicating the 27 or so months in the peace corps to do this, but he pretty much told me that I could forget about medical school. =( I'm a little frustrated at this, but in a way his words kinda scare me with my main goal of becoming a physician in mind. I definitely still want to be a physician, but I feel this is calling that I can't turn my back on.

Has anyone ever served the PeaceCorps and then applied for medical school? How did you do it? How much did the peacecorps impact you? Did it take away your passion to become a physician? Or strengthen it?

Thanks guys, I really appreciate it.
 
Hey Guys,

I really need some advice. I'm going to be a senior next year in undergrad, I'm planning to take 5 years because I added a minor and I'm doing a thesis project for research. I'm done with all my prereq classes, but I haven't taken the MCAT yet.

This year, I think life has been pulling me to a new direction. Traveling has always been something I really loved doing and though I still have a lot extensive research to do on this, I really feel that I have a calling to serve for the PeaceCorps. I would really love to put my whole heart into serving others without the notion of school always in the back of my head. And it would be really amazing to live in a foreign country for 2.5 years. I talked to my dad about the possibility of dedicating the 27 or so months in the peace corps to do this, but he pretty much told me that I could forget about medical school. =( I'm a little frustrated at this, but in a way his words kinda scare me with my main goal of becoming a physician in mind. I definitely still want to be a physician, but I feel this is calling that I can't turn my back on.

Has anyone ever served the PeaceCorps and then applied for medical school? How did you do it? How much did the peacecorps impact you? Did it take away your passion to become a physician? Or strengthen it?

Thanks guys, I really appreciate it.

I know someone who served in the Peace Corps before med school. From talking to him and another person (who was not a pre-med) I get the impression that the Peace Corps has a lot of problems, so it can be discouraging and draining. It could be motivating, but I don't get the impression that this happens as much as it probably could. Personally, I would investigate programs for medical students to serve in international programs before I would join the Peace Corps.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/project/content/project/peacecorps/daily/1104voiceag.html
Second, the Peace Corps in the early 1960s, and to this day, continues to send volunteers alone to extremely remote rural areas, often without significant local language capability, usable skills or meaningful support. I have never understood the rationale behind these assignments; they're too dangerous.

Third, the Peace Corps has always had a problem assuring volunteers and itself that the job assignments overseas were real and meaningful. Too often Peace Corps assignments have been marginal and sometimes nearly nonexistent — with ill-equipped young people having to fashion a job on the spot under the watchful eyes of local people.

At other times, the Peace Corps has sent "experts" to "help" local people who were more experienced and more expert than they. I can understand how this can happen in the first few years of the Peace Corps; it is difficult to justify four decades later.

Fourth, most Peace Corps volunteers experience serious illnesses, something not understood by the public. The Peace Corps may well be one of the most important experiences of an individual's life, but it exacts a price that the Peace Corps rarely acknowledges. And rarely, if ever, does the Peace Corps follow up with the huge number of volunteers to check on their health.

Fifth, the Peace Corps seems to remain oblivious to the difficulty many volunteers have in returning home. They receive little preparation and little Peace Corps support once they do.

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Proceed with caution and consider alternatives.:luck:
 
Now, I'm being completely serious here for a change but have you folks considered military service as something to do before you start medical school? Other than the obvious risk of being seriously injured or killed, I believe that you will gain more maturity, leadership skills, and a real respect for other people while serving as a Marine or a Soldier, particularly as a trigger-puller or a door-kicker.

An enlistment in the Marines is four years of which the first six months if you go infantry, armor, or artillery is basic and specialty training. You will make decent but not spectacular money. If you factor in not paying rent and eating at the chow hall I probably had the same disposable income as I do as a resident and the MGIB can take some of the financial pressure (but not all) off of paying for medical school.

The fact that you have a college degree doesn't mean that you have to be an officer either. The Military, particularly the combat units, are full of intelligent people who are just not interested in higher education at that point of their lives. Which is kind of the point. Medicine is a pretty decent job once you get through all of the hoops but you are setting yourself on a path the ruts in which will get deeper the more you progress. Getting off the path will be more difficult with every passing year and you may look back, thirty years from now, and wish you had been part of an armored column racing towards Bagdhad or spent some time creeping through a Central American jungle with a real purpose in life.

I'm just saying.
 
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The Peace Core is a very big commitment and may not involve glamorous work. Ie. you could spend 2 yrs digging latrines somewhere. Have you had any mission work experience? Backpacking in Europe isn't like spending years living in an isolated area. However, if it really is for you, there shouldn't be any problems with med school The only thing to remember is that your MCAT score is only valid for 3yrs, so you might want to take it when you get back. On a side not, spending an extra years tution to get a minor, which is worthless, is not likely to be worth the time and money.
 
I know someone who served in the Peace Corps before med school. From talking to him and another person (who was not a pre-med) I get the impression that the Peace Corps has a lot of problems, so it can be discouraging and draining. It could be motivating, but I don't get the impression that this happens as much as it probably could. Personally, I would investigate programs for medical students to serve in international programs before I would join the Peace Corps.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/project/content/project/peacecorps/daily/1104voiceag.html
Second, the Peace Corps in the early 1960s, and to this day, continues to send volunteers alone to extremely remote rural areas, often without significant local language capability, usable skills or meaningful support. I have never understood the rationale behind these assignments; they're too dangerous.

Third, the Peace Corps has always had a problem assuring volunteers and itself that the job assignments overseas were real and meaningful. Too often Peace Corps assignments have been marginal and sometimes nearly nonexistent — with ill-equipped young people having to fashion a job on the spot under the watchful eyes of local people.

At other times, the Peace Corps has sent "experts" to "help" local people who were more experienced and more expert than they. I can understand how this can happen in the first few years of the Peace Corps; it is difficult to justify four decades later.

Fourth, most Peace Corps volunteers experience serious illnesses, something not understood by the public. The Peace Corps may well be one of the most important experiences of an individual’s life, but it exacts a price that the Peace Corps rarely acknowledges. And rarely, if ever, does the Peace Corps follow up with the huge number of volunteers to check on their health.

Fifth, the Peace Corps seems to remain oblivious to the difficulty many volunteers have in returning home. They receive little preparation and little Peace Corps support once they do.

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Proceed with caution and consider alternatives.:luck:

1. PC does have a lot of problems but there is a cost-benefit ratio that each individual must weigh.

2. PC has strong rules to ensure volunteer safety. There have actually only been a handful of deaths (less than a dozen I believe) in 40 years with thousands having served. About 6-7000 people are in the field at any given time. I think you are safer in the PC than in Miami. They have a section on safety on their website. Read it.

Some of the rules to ensure volunteer safety include having a phone in the village and the ability for the volunteer and PC staff to communicate at all times. All PC volunteers are covered with good health care which includes medevac-ing.

2.5. The 2 years (for teachers) and 27 months (for specialists) include 3 months of language and skills training. Village and city placements are not decided until the end of training so people with strong(er) skills or backgrounds in different areas go to the best mutually beneficial place. E.g. a nurse gets placed at a nursing school, a polyglot gets placed in an area where he will need to learn 2 languages, etc. I am not saying that the 3 months training is all perfect and well organized but there is some preparation. Part of PC and being a good volunteer is having initiative. Initiative includes figuring things out yourself- learning the language if you want to communicate and integrate (they give you texts and access to more advanced materials)- starting your own project if you are bored. There are resources if you ask for them but no one is going to coddle you.

3. Yes, I think every volunteer feels a little useless at some point. Thats why they call it the easiest job you will ever hate, playing off the real slogan. I felt like living propoganda sometimes. However, see 2.5 and having initiative. PC can be a metaphor for life- are you going to do something or just sit there?

I think the "experts" you are talking about are the specialists, those with a degree or work experience in health, business, environment, community development, or teaching (teacher trainers). If you are not an "expert" then you can only serve as an English teacher.

The way that specialists (and teachers) "help" is by integrating themselves, learning what the locals are doing, and adding their ideas where they are useful. No one (or no one who stays for long) goes in with the mindset that they are in the country to set things straight or to overhaul the local system. The most successful projects and placements are those that have a great deal of community involvement and are in fact managed by the locals. It is not as patronising as you might think. However you might be thinking of the crisis corps, "experts" who are so qualified because they are returned volunteers who go back to their country of service for a short term stint to help in a crisis for which they have the skills to assist in.

4. I dont know where you get the fact that "most" volunteers experience a serious illness. This is simply not true. You have access to medical care 24-7 or ability to speak to a doc who can get it to you within 24 hours. When else in your life will you have your own medical professional on-call for you? There are the aforementioned medevac services, PC will fly (and pay for) a volunteer to get to the nearest PC staffed med facility at a moments notice, you have a medical kit, restocked whenever you want, etc. Sure, there are a lot more opportunities to pick up giardia and to cut yourself when you have to chop your own wood but PC health care is pretty solid. Full physical and dental checks at least every year, beginning before you arrive. And, in order to get your readjustment allowance ($250 per month of service to be paid on return to the US) you have to complete a full physical and dental check. PC also pays for any med care needed for illnesses from service even after you get back. If you get pregnant, they pay for prenatal care while you fatten up stateside.

5. What support should PC give for RPCVs (returned PC volunteers)? You get money, which isnt a lot but is really useful ($5-6K for full service) to restart your US life. They have newsletters, job listings, fellowships, etc. There are strong RPCV networks and resources if you look for them.

My real two cents- Oncocap- if you didnt do it, dont speculate and use hearsay as evidence.

OP- research it, talk to a recruiter, do it if you want.

And yes, I served, came back and applied successfully to med school.
Sorry for the long response.
 
will assuredly increase your candidacy but the opportunity cost is tremendous. not to mention ppl may view you as a granola...

I'm not a believer in nonprofits myself
 
Hey Guys,

I really need some advice. I'm going to be a senior next year in undergrad, I'm planning to take 5 years because I added a minor and I'm doing a thesis project for research. I'm done with all my prereq classes, but I haven't taken the MCAT yet.

This year, I think life has been pulling me to a new direction. Traveling has always been something I really loved doing and though I still have a lot extensive research to do on this, I really feel that I have a calling to serve for the PeaceCorps. I would really love to put my whole heart into serving others without the notion of school always in the back of my head. And it would be really amazing to live in a foreign country for 2.5 years. I talked to my dad about the possibility of dedicating the 27 or so months in the peace corps to do this, but he pretty much told me that I could forget about medical school. =( I'm a little frustrated at this, but in a way his words kinda scare me with my main goal of becoming a physician in mind. I definitely still want to be a physician, but I feel this is calling that I can't turn my back on.

Has anyone ever served the PeaceCorps and then applied for medical school? How did you do it? How much did the peacecorps impact you? Did it take away your passion to become a physician? Or strengthen it?

Thanks guys, I really appreciate it.


I did it! Actually there were 20 people in my group, 3 of us that wanted to go to med school and all 3 of us did. It's actually more common than you'd think.

There are lots of reasons not to - it's a long commitment and very frustrating at times. It becomes your home and you experience all of the frustrations and elations you would have at home, somewhat magnified because you don't have the support system you normally would. I definitely think it had more of an impact on me than I had on the people there but I wouldn't necessarily say that's a bad thing - I learned a lot, I had friends and family visit me who wouldn't otherwise have seen/known the country, I talk about it all of the time at home. I think it will definitely affect the way I treat my patients in the future - with a lot of respect for those who are away from friends/family and may have had to learn a new language.

In response to some of the issues that were brought up, I never had a serious illness and was in better health than in the states, at times. Best medical care of my life, without a doubt. Also, reintegrating at home wasn't a problem.

Anyway, those are my thoughts, let me know if you have questions. I just finished my first year of med school and I've chosen to work in a developing country for my summer break, so the impact definitely carries over!

Good luck deciding and choose what's right for you.
 
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Moving to Pre-Allo as this is a pre-med issue. Allopathic medical students can follow and reply there.
 
OP-

What exactly are you hoping to gain from Peace Corps? If you are genuinely interested in experiencing a different part of the world, learning a new language, being challenged, growing as a person, seeing firsthand the health system in a developing country, then I would say do Peace Corps. These are things that you are almost guaranteed to get out of it.

If you are looking to be technically challenged and directly use the knowledge you gained in college, you might be disappointed. I have a Master's of Science in Public Health and was looking forward to doing technically challenging things that would test my knowledge. This didn't happen so much. I did however get to see health from a different vantage point and the work was extremely difficult, just not in any of the ways that I imagined.

But, I was able to see what being a doctor really is and have now decided to apply to medical school. I think it was advantageous to me because I'm not one of those applicants that says "I spent 50 hours in an ER and it changed my life" or other such cliche reasons for wanting to go to medical school. I grew a lot as a person and I think that will show in interviews.

That being said, I don't think that you should do it just to get into school. If your motivations aren't pure, you will be unhappy and leave Peace Corps early.
 
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I actually wanted to serve in the peace corps before medical schools, but found a huge problem-- I couldn't afford to. You get a stipend that allows you to live comparably to local people, and I bet local people don't fly to the US eight times a year. Unless you have some outside funding, you will not be able to fly to your interviews. This means that you would have to wait to apply after you were done serving, adding another year onto the two and a half years you are already waiting. It sounds like a cool opportunity, but three-four years of additional wait time is just too much for me.
 
Just an interesting tidbit...I interviewed at DMS this year and all they talked about was how much they loved PeaceCorp people. I really think it was brought up 10 times!

Regardless, I would totally do it if I were you.

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