pediatric specialties income

[immd2005]

i am considering going into peds and then specializing, but not sure in what tho. however, i know that peds make like no money, and was wondering if anyone knew what the avg income for someone that specializes in certain peds depts is? like possible neontatolgy, gi, cardio, or pulm? i wanna make over 200 and dont knwo if i will be able to if i do pediatric subspecialty! is it just worht doing IM and then specializing instead?

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[bewitched1081]

goodness! if you want to go into peds dont let a salary under 200 impede you.

 

[LukeWhite]

This is anecdotal, rather than statistical: neonatologists generally make at least a few hundred thousand dollars, with unit directors potentially making in excess of $500,000/yr after production bonuses, etc.

 

[KyGrlDr2B]

Moving to peds.

 

[Homunculus]

Originally posted by immd2005
i am considering going into peds and then specializing, but not sure in what tho. however, i know that peds make like no money, and was wondering if anyone knew what the avg income for someone that specializes in certain peds depts is? like possible neontatolgy, gi, cardio, or pulm? i wanna make over 200 and dont knwo if i will be able to if i do pediatric subspecialty! is it just worht doing IM and then specializing instead?

i know a group of pediatric intensivists that each make over 300k/year

 

[edmadison]

Originally posted by Homunculus
i know a group of pediatric intensivists that each make over 300k/year

I assume this is in a private hospital. The starting salary at our quatenary facility: 85-90K. Ouch.

Ed

 

[Homunculus]

Originally posted by edmadison
I assume this is in a private hospital. The starting salary at our quatenary facility: 85-90K. Ouch.

Ed

it's private, but more than that they're also the only game in town.

and they also do some academic work with the peds residency that's at the hospital. one recently published a study of activated protein c in kiddos. cool stuff.

 

[edmadison]

Originally posted by Homunculus
one recently published a study of activated protein c in kiddos. cool stuff.

Xigris -- its a beautiful thing!

Ed

 

[NRAI2001]

Is there a such specialty as pediatric plastic surgery? Or do regular plastic surgeons treat children?

 

[jackjinju]

Anyone know the income for Peds GI docs??

 

[DireWolf]

A family friend who is a pediatric cardiologist makes <200K/year, and he's been in private practice for about 20 years. He told me when I started medical school that you don't go into pediatrics for the money; you go into it because you love it.

 

[eddieberetta]

Originally posted by NRAI2001
Is there a such specialty as pediatric plastic surgery? Or do regular plastic surgeons treat children?

Yes, peds PRS (and some ENTs) do the craniofacial recon stuff. It is a fellowship of PRS or ENT (not peds), so I wouldn't count it as a pediatric subspecialty.

 

[mellantro]

Originally posted by lukealfredwhite
This is anecdotal, rather than statistical: neonatologists generally make at least a few hundred thousand dollars, with unit directors potentially making in excess of $500,000/yr after production bonuses, etc.

Wow, is this true? I work with a bunch of neonatologists and I had no idea they were making that much.

What are the strongest neonatology programs? Does it necessarily follow that CHOP and Boston Children's would have the strongest programs?

 

[jdog]

To the person who originally posted the quote of peds makes "like no money".

You are exactly right. Many pediatricians have a net income of $0 in this day and age of decreasing reimbursement. Many have lost their homes, now drive 1988 Cutlass Supremes, and shop at the Salvation army store for their threads.

I think you would "just be better off" in IM subspecialty. The IM subspecialty that make significantly more than peds only work about 90 hours a week, so you should be happy there.

 

[jdog]

My second post of the morning. I am on rounds and doing this to avoid falling asleep from boredom.

To the question, does it follow that CHOP and BC are best. In my opinion and the opinion of others, if you want to go into academics and do research in NEO than a big academic center with big wigs is the way to go.

If you know you want to do NICU in a community hospital that is not a level 4, than often you will often be better at a program less concerned with research and more clinically based. some programs really make you do a lot of research at the expense of clinical.

And can I add that BC and CHOP while great hospitals, but there are many big academic centers just as good, and in some opinions, better clinically. Their research is tops if that flotats your boat.

 

[bla_3x]

Peds IC and neonatology: Do they have ridiculous malpractice premiums?

 

[Iriz]

Remember even ur mom makes better than $0, and Peds is chosen by people who are pure at heart and is willing to serve the initial stages of human race. IM docs exploit even cases like AIDS or HIV to fill their bags. IM guys do all the filthy groundwork, suck the patient and send him to another specialist for his turn. IM is like the pimp speciality, the middlemen to all other specialities, GL with that dear JunkyardDog.

 

[oldbearprofessor]

Peds IC and neonatology: Do they have ridiculous malpractice premiums?

Most peds intensivists and many neonatologists operate within academic centers in which their malpractice is entirely covered for them as part of their academic contract. As such, I honestly don't know how much malpractice insurance costs for us. I would note that traditionally, neonatologists were usually not named in malpractice cases. Rather, there was a tendency to prefer to get the neonatologist to assist in developing a case against the delivering obstetrician. I do not think that is still the case.

Regards

Oldbearprofessor