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[CalpardNY]

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Does anyone know how to find Penn's curriculum or have access to it of some sort? I know most schools post it on their website but I can't seem to find it!

I asked one of the interns where I worked and she said if she had her code she could get it for me but she doesn't - so is it only available to students? As i'm sure most of you can appreciate I am a dork and like to review that stuff before interviews!😛

Thanks!

 

[BobDog]

They will give this to you at your interview.

 

[weirdhobo]

Why is a degree received at Penn called a VMD?

 

[hanakanapuna]

they said at the interview its because Penn's program was originally based on their med school programs, hence VMD (Veterinary Medical Doctor). No other schools followed suit so its the only VMD program.

 

[Shanomong]

Does anyone know how to find Penn's curriculum or have access to it of some sort? I know most schools post it on their website but I can't seem to find it!

I asked one of the interns where I worked and she said if she had her code she could get it for me but she doesn't - so is it only available to students? As i'm sure most of you can appreciate I am a dork and like to review that stuff before interviews!😛

Thanks!

I tried but everything I found you needed a passcode for, sorry!

 

[CalpardNY]

Good to know - thanks bobdog!

And thanks for trying anyway shanomong.

 

[amberspyglass]

Good luck to everyone who has an interview today!!!!

 

[PAThbrd]

SUMMARY OF CORE CURRICULUM

FIRST YEAR (Class of 2011)
Fall Semester
VANB601 Gross Anatomy
VANB602 Histology
VANB603 Developmental Biology
VANB605 Biochemistry
VMED600 Intro to Clinical Veterinary Medicine I (ICVM I)

Quarter 3
VANB601 Gross Anatomy (Cont.)
VANB604 Neurosciences
VANB606 Physiology
VMED601 ICVM II

Quarter 4
VANB604 Neurosciences (Cont.)
VANB606 Physiology (Cont.)
VMED602 ICVM III
VMED603 Introduction to Radiology
VMED605 Nutrition
VPTH604 Immunology


SECOND YEAR (Class of 2010)
Fall Semester
VPTH602 General and Systemic Pathology
VPTH603 Parasitology
VPTH605 Microbiology
VSUR601 Surgical Principles

Quarter 3
VANB607 Pharmacology & Toxicology
VMED608 Intro Poultry
VMED611 Medicine/Surgery I
VPTH606 Clinical Pathology
VSUR603 Orthopedics

Quarter 4
VANB607 Pharmacology/Toxicology (Cont.)
VMED606 Epidemiology
VMED607 Veterinary Public Health
VMED609 Infectious & Metabolic Diseases
VMED611 Medicine/Surgery I (Cont.)
VPTH606 Clinical Pathology (Cont.)
VSUR604 Anesthesia

THIRD YEAR (Class of 2009)
Quarter 1
VMED604 Vet. Medical Genetics
VMED610 Reproduction
VMED612 Med/Surg II
VSUR602 Clinical Exercises
ELECTIVES

Quarter 2
VMED613 Med/Surg III
VMED614 Lab. Animal Med
VMED615 Dermatology
VMED616 Clin Animal Behav.
VMED617 Vet. Ethical Issues
VSUR602 Clinical Exercises (Cont.)
ELECTIVES

Quarter 3
NEW BOLTON CENTER
Large Animal Block
ELECTIVES

Quarter 4
PHILADELPHIA
Small Animal Block
ELECTIVES

FOURTH YEAR (Class of 2008)
TWENTY-FIVE TWO-WEEK CLINICAL ROTATION BLOCKS: 6 FOUNDATION; 18 for MAJOR REQUIRED or ELECTIVE; 1 VACATION


SUMMARY OF ELECTIVE CURRICULUM

FIRST YEAR (Class of 2011)

Fall Semester
VCSP655 Introduction to Wildlife Medicine I
Quarter 3/4
VCSP656 Introduction to Wildlife
Medicine II

SECOND YEAR (Class of 2010)
Quarter 3 Quarter 4

VCSN630 Equine Neonat. & Int. Care
VCSN661/662 Swine Neonatology
VCSN663/664 Swine Husbandry

THIRD YEAR (Class of 2009)
Quarter 1
VANB635 Biochem Basis of Disease
VANB636 Cardiovascular Physiology
VPTH633 Ecotoxicology for Vets.
VPTH634 Microbial Pathogenesis
VCSP630 Hematopoiesis
VCSP631 Intermediate Biostatistics
VCSP632 Diag. of Common Vet Intox.
VCSN631 Ecological Epidemiology
VCSN637 An. Production Systems
VCSN661/662 Swine Neonatology
VCSN663/664 Swine Husbandry

Quarter 2
VANB633 Sem. in Develop. Biology
VCSP634 Perspectives on Vet.
Comp/Alternative Med.
VCSP635 Intro to Companion Avian
Medicine
VCSP636 Intro to Reptile & Amphibian
Medicine
VCSP637 Professional Foundations
VCSP638 Legal Issues for Veterinarians
VCSN632 Dis & Mng Sheep & Goats
VCSN633 Animal Health Economics
VCSN634 Clinical Biostatistics
VCSN635 Eq. & Farm An. Anesthesia
VCSN652 Emerging & Exotic Diseases
of Animals
VCSN661/662 Swine Neonatology
VCSN663/664 Swine Husbandry

Quarter 3
VPTH640 L.A. Pathology
VCSN640 L.A. Medicine
VCSN641 Adv. Poultry Medicine
VCSN642 Dairy Cattle Nutrition
VCSN643 L.A. Reproduction
VCSN644 L.A. Reproduction
VCSN645 L.A. Surgery
VCSN646 Equine Lameness
VCSN647 Equine Orthopedics
VCSN648 Exercise Physiology
VCSN649 L.A. Diag. Imaging
VCSN650 Principles of Aquaculture
VCSN661/662 Swine Neonatology
VCSN663/664 Swine Husbandry

Quarter 4
VPTH635 Intro. to Fish Diseases
VCSN636 Clin. Appl. of Pharmacology
VCSP640 Laboratory Animal Medicine
VCSP641 S.A. Pediatrics
VCSP642 Topics in Neurology
VCSP643 S.A. Clinical Nutrition
VCSP646 S.A. Surgery
VCSP647 S.A. Surgery/Anesthesia Lab.
VCSP648 S.A. Anesthesia
VCSP649 Emergency/Crit. Care Med.
VCSP650 S.A. Dentistry/Oral Surgery
VCSP651 Practice Management
VCSP652 Intro. to Shelter Animal Med.
VCSP654 S.A. Critical Care Med.
VCSP657 Case Studies in Sp Species
VCSP658 Pet Sm Mammal Med&Surg
VCSN661/662 Swine Neonatology
VCSN663/664 Swine Husbandry

FOURTH YEAR (Class of 2008)
Small Animal Medicine (4 weeks)
Small Animal Soft Tissue Surgery (2 weeks)
Large Animal Medicine (2 weeks)
Large Animal Surgery (2 weeks)
Large Animal Emergency (2 weeks)
(The above rotations are required for all majors)

VCSP700 7091 Small Animal Internal Medicine - Foundation
VCSP710 7191 Small Animal Internal Medicine
VCSP712 7132 Small Animal Intensive Care Medicine Service
VCSP714 7154 Small Animal Pediatrics/Medical Genetics Service
VCSP715 7115 Small Animal Cardiology Service
VCSP716 7116 Dermatology/Allergy
VCSP718 7118 Small Animal Neurology/Neurosurgery Service
VCSP770 7701 Small Animal Internal Medicine - Clinic
VCSP771 7721 Small Animal Oncology Service
VCSP772 7723 Small Animal Intensive Care Medicine
VCSP774 7745 Small Animal Pediatrics/Medical Genetics
VCSP775 7751 Small Animal Cardiology Service
VCSP776 7761 Dermatology/Allergy
VCSP778 7781 Small Animal Neurology/Neurosurgery Service
VCSP789 7711 ULAR - Laboratory Animal Medicine
VCSP790 7791 Small Animal Medicine Holiday Rotation
VCSP798 7798 Small Animal Neurology Holiday Rotation
VCSP800 8090 Small Animal Soft Tissue Surgery - Foundation
VCSP810 8190 Small Animal Soft Tissue Surgery
VCSP811 8191 Small Animal Orthopedic Surgery
VCSP813 8193 Small Animal Emergency Service
VCSP814 8194 Small Animal Radiology Service
VCSP815 8195 Small Animal Anesthesia Service
VCSP817 8172 Small Animal Dentistry and Oral Surgery
VCSP870 8701 Small Animal Soft Tissue Surgery
VCSP871 8705 Small Animal Orthopedic Surgery
VCSP872 8741 Small Animal Ophthalmology Service
VCSP873 8703 Small Animal Emergency Service
VCSP874 8721 Small Animal Radiology Service
VCSP874 8723 Small Animal Radiology Service - 2nd, 3rd rotation
VCSP875 8731 Small Animal Anesthesiology Service
VCSP876 9705 Small Animal Behavior Clinic
VCSP877 8727 Small Animal Dentistry and Oral Surgery
VCSP878 2200 Special Species Service
VCSP880 8780 Shelter Animal Medicine - PAWS
VCSP890 8790 Small Animal Surgery Holiday Rotation
VCSP893 8793 Small Animal Emergency Service Holiday Rotation
VCSN700 7092 Large Animal Medicine
VCSN701 8093 Large Animal Emergency/Critical Care - Foundation
VCSN713 7193 Field Service
VCSN715 7155 Diagnostic Ultrasound in Large Animals
VCSN770 7702 Large Animal Medicine Clinic
VCSN773 7708 Field Service
VCSN774 7741 Large Animal Clinical Reproduction
VCSN775 7755 Diagnostic Ultrasound in Large Animals
VCSN776 7754 Ultrasonography in Large Animals
VCSN777 7724 Large Animal Neonatal Intensive Care Rotation
VCSN780 7732 Ration Evaluation and Formulation
VCSN800 8096 Large Animal Surgery
VCSN870 8702 Large Animal Surgery Clinic
VCSN871 8704 Equine Surgery Clinic
VCSN872 8745 Sports Medicine/Imaging
VCSN873 8713 Large Animal Emergency/Critical Care
VCSN874 8722 Large Animal Radiology
VCSN875 8732 Large Animal Anesthesiology Service
VCSN876 8733 Food Animal Anesthesiology
VCSN877 9701 Food Animal Medicine and Surgery
VCSN878 8708 Sports Medicine Clinic
VCSN879 8706 Equine Podology
VCSN880 9703 Dairy Production Medicine Clinic
VCSN881 6701 Food Safety and Quality Assurance
VCSN882 9725 Swine Production Medicine
VCSN883 9726 Advanced Swine Production Medicine
VCSN884 9728 Swine Production
VCSN890 8792 Large Animal Medicine & Surgery Holiday Emergency
VPTH710 5191 Small Animal Pathology Service
VPTH711 5192 Farm Animal Pathology
VPTH770 5702 Small Animal Pathology
VPTH771 5703 Farm Animal Pathology
VPTH772 5772 Small Animal Clinical Pathology Service
VPTH775 7705 Poultry Diagnostic Technique
VPTH780 9727 Poultry Production Medicine
VPTH790 5791 Small Animal Pathology Holiday Rotation


I think you're looking for something like that in the way of curriculum. I don't think anyone will be willing to give you their PennKey as that would give you access to their grades, financial aid, etc. But they should give you a supplementary bulletin with course descriptions, etc. when you interview and/or matriculate.

 

[CalpardNY]

PAThbrd - that is exactly what I was looking for, thank you. Acutually texlaevis PM'd me and then emailed me the pdf of the bulletin - which was really helpful and had that information in it!

But thank you for helping as well!

 

[yoshi1230]

I got the call from penn today around 8:30. Im in!

 

[Shanomong]

I got the call from penn today around 8:30. Im in!

Yay congrats!!!!!!

Calpard, any news????

Sorry I didn't get on here in time to wish everyone luck, I hope it went well today!!!!

 

[CalpardNY]

Yay congrats!!!!!!

Calpard, any news????

Congrats also Yoshi!

No - no news yet...🙁 - ill keep you posted though!

 

[researchvet]

It seems like Penn has many fewer electives than some other schools (Cornell and Davis, for example. Do Penn folks feel like they get broad exposure to less traditional fields (public health, wildlife med, etc.)?

 

[CalpardNY]

For anyone who is interested...

I got an email about 3:30 today saying I was offered alternate status. I replied saying I would be very interested in staying on. I also asked them more information on how that works.

So if any of you who haven't made final decisions but are wavering about Penn, I would be happy help convince you to go to whatever other school it may be 😛😉 (Ok shameless plug over with - moving on now!)

 

[pupsforseeing]

CalpardNY--I will be deferring my spot at Penn in the next few days. Hope that opens up a seat for you in this year's class!!

 

[cows93]

Congrats CalpardNY. Good luck with getting in. Are you accepted anywhere else?

 

[Shanomong]

For anyone who is interested...

I got an email about 3:30 today saying I was offered alternate status. I replied saying I would be very interested in staying on. I also asked them more information on how that works.

So if any of you who haven't made final decisions but are wavering about Penn, I would be happy help convince you to go to whatever other school it may be 😛😉 (Ok shameless plug over with - moving on now!)

Congrats!!! I'll keep my fingers crossed!

Hopefully Pupsforseeing's deferment helps you out, update us when you know for sure!

 

[BigGreenVet]

For anyone who is interested...

I got an email about 3:30 today saying I was offered alternate status. I replied saying I would be very interested in staying on. I also asked them more information on how that works.

So if any of you who haven't made final decisions but are wavering about Penn, I would be happy help convince you to go to whatever other school it may be 😛😉 (Ok shameless plug over with - moving on now!)

Congrats! There's a chance I'll be deferring as well, so that might be another spot for you. Good luck!

 

[CalpardNY]

Thanks guys!

Cows: Yes i was accepted to Ross (but declined) and was in the process of deciding between Illinois and Glasgow when i heard about the penn interview. Penn is my top choice so i guess the waiting game continues. But i will make a decision between Illinois and Glasgow for now (i was having a hard time doing so before!). I was hoping to be able to decline both and open up spot sooner for other people - but i guess that is the vicious cycle of vet school admissions! 🙄

Pupsforseeing/Biggreenvet: Thanks guys for letting me know! I can understand how hard the decision to defer is but hopefully I will then be able to see you both next year!

I emailed Ms. Herpen and she said they don't rank until after the alternate deadline of April 11 and that they can give me my rank probably sometime in late april - so i expect it to be a bit of time before i know!

 

[hanakanapuna]

For anyone who is interested...

I got an email about 3:30 today saying I was offered alternate status. I replied saying I would be very interested in staying on. I also asked them more information on how that works.

So if any of you who haven't made final decisions but are wavering about Penn, I would be happy help convince you to go to whatever other school it may be 😛😉 (Ok shameless plug over with - moving on now!)

I just received my alternate status today, but I am IS, don't know if that really matters at this point. I figure the IS list will move a heck of a lot slower. Roseanne Herpen told me the same thing, and hopefully I will know ranking by the end of April. Keeping my fingers crossed for all those still waiting! Like Calpard said, I would be glad to convince you to give up your seat.😛 Waitlisted st Penn and Mich, guess I will prepare my stuff to reapply!

 

[CalpardNY]

I just received my alternate status today, but I am IS, don't know if that really matters at this point. I figure the IS list will move a heck of a lot slower.

Congrats on your alternate status as well! I can tell you that when i interviewed on friday Dean Keiter told us that we were all OOS (that they didnt invite any IS for the final interview day because they had offered all the positions to IS). I dont know how that affects the waitlist, but hopefully some of those IS with outstanding acceptances need some discouragement for penn!

I will keep my fingers crossed for both of us!

 

[2012VMDhopeful]

I received an email today notifying me of my position of "alternate". I guess the waiting game continues! I am IS. How many alternates do they have?!?

 

[CalpardNY]

I received an email today notifying me of my position of "alternate". I guess the waiting game continues! I am IS. How many alternates do they have?!?

I asked that question but I didn't receive a specific answer. Also I am assuming (since at my interview on friday they said they had sent out all their IS offers) that their are two separate lists! Hopefully we will find out more after the April 11th deadline!

 

[pika8]

wait, is penn's deadline april 11 or april 14???

 

[CalpardNY]

Their deadline to let them know about their offer for alternate is April 11th.

 

[cows93]

I also was offered an alternate position. IS. I replied this morning declining the alternate position. Hope it helps some of you that are still waiting. Good Luck

 

[2012VMDhopeful]

has anyone heard anything about Penn's alternate list? can we call to find out where we are on the list? any other Penn alternates out there?!? let the waiting game continue!

 

[CalpardNY]

has anyone heard anything about Penn's alternate list? can we call to find out where we are on the list? any other Penn alternates out there?!? let the waiting game continue!

Rosanne Herpen told me that they were ranking after the deadline and it would be available to us at the end of April. i was going to probably call the end of this week or beginning of next. Keep us updated if you call and hear first.

 

[2012VMDhopeful]

Rosanne Herpen told me that they were ranking after the deadline and it would be available to us at the end of April. i was going to probably call the end of this week or beginning of next. Keep us updated if you call and hear first.

thanks! i'll just wait a little bit longer before i bother them! (what's another week or two after waiting this long!)

 

[Chessie219]

has anyone heard of an acceptance from the Penn alternate list? Just wondering if it has started. Thanks.

 

[hanakanapuna]

E-mailed Roseanne Herpen today, and found out I am officially #7 on the IS list. Not looking good as she told me that the IS doesn't move much, and that she has seen years where no one was accepted off the list. I am keeping my fingers crossed, and hoping that this is one Lucky Number Seven!

 

[CalpardNY]

E-mailed Roseanne Herpen today, and found out I am officially #7 on the IS list. Not looking good as she told me that the IS doesn't move much, and that she has seen years where no one was accepted off the list. I am keeping my fingers crossed, and hoping that this is one Lucky Number Seven!

OOH good to know! I was putting off asking until friday because my mom convinced me monday was "not late april!"...but if they are giving out IS rankings i assume they are giving out OOS - ill call tomorrrow!. I'll keep you all updated...

Hanakanapuna - i will also hope 7 is lucky for you ! I don't know if it helps but I think you were waitlisted at Glasgow? I forgot to post it (ill go do it now), but I declined admission there yesterday - if i didnt get confused and it was you I hope that helps (if Penn doesn't come through of course)!

 

[hanakanapuna]

Thanks for the well wishes. I was waitlisted for both Glasgow and MSU. Right now I am very much on the fence if Scotland calls, but I guess you have to go where you get in! Best of luck to you as well and hopefully our wait for a position is a short one.😀

 

[CalpardNY]

So I just called Roseanne Herpen myself to find out about my rank...officially #8 (out of 18 if anyone was curious...i was so i asked!) She said the class is solidly booked so right now they aren't delving into the alternate list. She said historically they have seen years where they don't touch the waitlist and years where they have delved into it! OY! She told me to call back in a few weeks/a month and check back.

Im kinda in that limbo mode still...1 or 2 rank i would say - hmmm maybe i have a shot...and if i was like 14 or 15 i would move on as i have another great offer...but since penn is my top choice 8 is like right freaking in annoying-land! At least i guess i can stop obsessing with wonder right now.

hanakanapuna maybe we can just pray cornell keeps going through their oos rejection lists and some of those penn people switch over 😉! 7 is one of my lucky numbers so im with you on the ! And about Glasgow - i totally understand your fence but i still hope you get it and have to cross that bridge anyway!

 

[2012VMDhopeful]

7 + 8 = 15... unfortunately, 15 is my number on the list!!! just found out today 🙁 ...
best of luck to the rest of you!

 

[Chessie219]

I emailed Ms. Herpen and found out I am #3 on the IS list. She gave me the same info about the IS not moving some years and moving in others. So she wouldn't give me an actual evaluation of my chances, which I guess is just about as honest as she could be. So more waiting I guess, and trying to not get my hopes to high haha.

 

[catlover25]

Hey everyone~

I am going to be a first year at Penn this fall and I recently signed a lease on a 3 bedroom apartment at Spruce and 42nd (about 5 minute walk to the vet school). There are two of us who will be living there so far but we need a third person!!! It's a year lease, starting June 1. A little about the apartment... it is two levels, with one level being the three bedrooms and a half bath. The other level has a big living area/kitchen and a full bath. There is a laundry room directly attached to the apartment. It has hardwood floors, central air and is pet friendly. I will be bringing my cat and so will the other girl who will be living there. If you have a cat, that would be fine too. A dog may be okay, depending on how big it is and if it is cat friendly. We would prefer a female roommate. Your part of the rent would be $518.33/month + gas/electric/cable & internet. It's a great price and in a great area. If you would like to know more about myself or the other roommate or just the apartment in general, please feel free to PM me or email me ([email protected]). Thanks!!! 🙂

~Michelle

 

[2012VMDhopeful]

has anyone heard anything about the UPenn waitlist?!?
just curious! Thanks!

 

[CanadianGolden]

Only that it's not moving.

 

[KitKat71]

If anyone is looking for housing near Penn, my friend is looking for a roommate. She lives at 42nd and Pine. PM me if you're interested.

 

[Shanomong]

Hey everyone,
I just realized I never updated this after my post-mortem in May. Basically I was right in my speculations about why I didn't get in. I was told that my GPA and GRE are both good, but that the schools I went to were lower-tier, and that my history major left me deficient in the upper-level sciences department. If i had either gone to a better school with my major, or if I had completed a bio major at my schools, I would have been in better shape. The evaluator I met with was extremely helpful and even offered to look over my application before I submitted it this cycle. She did look it over, and she made some very helpful suggestions. To correct my application I was told to take Biochemistry and Microbiology at a higher tier school, so I took Orgo 2 over the summer at Drexel and am now taking Biochem and Microbio there. I was also told to talk a lot more about the veterinary profession in my essay and less about my past. Sorry I didn't post this in time to help this years applicants, but hopefully this info helps future applicants. Good luck to everyone beginning the UPenn wait with me this cycle!!

 

[MooSuga]

I was just curious and wondering if it's not tooooo personal, those who got accepted to u penn. What were your stats? And if they let you enroll without a undergrad degree and with just the prereq's?????

GPA, GRE, etc?

Cause it would help me alot! Much thanks in advance!

 

[RemyRipper315]

I'm a 2nd year now, but these were my stats when I applied:
GRE 1190, GPA 3.80 (1st GRE score was 1010 😱 before I retook it)
I applied during my senior year of undergrad, so I had my degree before starting.

 

[Emio]

I was just curious and wondering if it's not tooooo personal, those who got accepted to u penn. What were your stats? And if they let you enroll without a undergrad degree and with just the prereq's?????

GPA, GRE, etc?

Cause it would help me alot! Much thanks in advance!

there's a student in our class that applied his junior year, and after finishing his first year of vet school, got his BS. he was a student at Penn undergrad, so maybe it's limited to those students, but he didn't have a degree when he matriculated.

there's another girl that got all her work done in three years, and is thus a year ahead of everyone else, but i think she actually got her degree in those three years.

have you called rosanne herpen yet? she's wonderfully helpful, and will better be able to direct you in that sense than either remyripper or i will.

 

[Shanomong]

I saw on the "Interview" thread that a few invites were sent out today. Those of you who were invited... mind sharing which program you said you were most interested in? 🙄

And is it really two dates sent out already? 1/16 and 1/19?

Thanks!!

 

[ZooNose]

I saw on the "Interview" thread that a few invites were sent out today. Those of you who were invited... mind sharing which program you said you were most interested in? 🙄

And is it really two dates sent out already? 1/16 and 1/19?

Thanks!!

No, my date is actually Friday, January 16 - total mistake/type on my part. Sorry for any confusion!

Also, I listed my main interest as "public health", if that helps.

 

[nymfn712]

I saw on the "Interview" thread that a few invites were sent out today. Those of you who were invited... mind sharing which program you said you were most interested in? 🙄

And is it really two dates sent out already? 1/16 and 1/19?

Thanks!!

I listed small animal as my primary interest, public health secondary.

 

[Shanomong]

Thanks! And congrats to you both!!!

 

[pennrsch]

I was just curious and wondering if it's not tooooo personal, those who got accepted to u penn. What were your stats? And if they let you enroll without a undergrad degree and with just the prereq's?????

GPA, GRE, etc?

Cause it would help me alot! Much thanks in advance!

I'm a VMD PhD student. Stats: GRE 630 Verbal 760 Math, 3.75 GPA.

I think they will let you enroll without an undergrad degree, but they want a good reason why you don't have

 

[Mongooze]

I saw on the "Interview" thread that a few invites were sent out today. Those of you who were invited... mind sharing which program you said you were most interested in? 🙄

And is it really two dates sent out already? 1/16 and 1/19?

Thanks!!

I put down research and other (wildlife medicine) as my interest - which is pretty different from what nymfn712 and ZooNose wrote. I know in the past they have done interviews based on interest ... do you think they are changing it this year?