Percentiles and DO schools

[GypsyHummus]

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Do any DO schools post their percentiles of incoming class GPA and MCAT scores with percentile ranges? If so, where can we find such data? I know that the MSAR does this for MD programs, but I was trying to get a good range for specific DO programs I am interested in. Many post their averages, but that doesnt really help all that much, since half are above and half are below.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks!

 

[rkmoto121]

Do any DO schools post their percentiles of incoming class GPA and MCAT scores with percentile ranges? If so, where can we find such data? I know that the MSAR does this for MD programs, but I was trying to get a good range for specific DO programs I am interested in. Many post their averages, but that doesnt really help all that much, since half are above and half are below.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks!

I've been wanting this data as well. It's pretty annoying how long DO schools have been around that they still don't have something similar to the MSAR.

 

[Bomikepa]

the closest thing they have to the msar is the CIB. its very similar but doesn't not have as much statistical data. It serves its purpose however. its also FREE

 

[TwinsFan]

The simplest way to do this is to use the std deviation published and use it to create 10th and 90th percentiles with the mean floating versus the national data.

i.e.
national mean is ~3.5/3.4/27
std dev is ~0.3/0.3/3

so the approximate 10/90 for the national average is:
cGPA 3.2-3.8
sGPA 3.1-3.7
MCAT 24-30

Then for an individual school float the range based on their average compared to the national average.

A school with a 3.6/3.6/28 average will have the range for cGPA increased 0.1, sGPA increased 0.2, and the MCAT by 1 point so their 10/90 will look like this:
cGPA 3.3-3.9
sGPA 3.3-3.9
MCAT 25-31


This is a rough way to get an idea of where you may stand, but in some cases schools may have a tighter distribution around their means than the national average, such as having no one with an MCAT below 26 or something like that.

 

[coolingglasses]

the closest thing they have to the msar is the CIB. its very similar but doesn't not have as much statistical data. It serves its purpose however. its also FREE

yep

you win some, you lose some.

 

[Dreamstoo]

The simplest way to do this is to use the std deviation published and use it to create 10th and 90th percentiles with the mean floating versus the national data.

i.e.
national mean is ~3.5/3.4/27
std dev is ~0.3/0.3/3

so the approximate 10/90 for the national average is:
cGPA 3.2-3.8
sGPA 3.1-3.7
MCAT 24-30

Then for an individual school float the range based on their average compared to the national average.

A school with a 3.6/3.6/28 average will have the range for cGPA increased 0.1, sGPA increased 0.2, and the MCAT by 1 point so their 10/90 will look like this:
cGPA 3.3-3.9
sGPA 3.3-3.9
MCAT 25-31


This is a rough way to get an idea of where you may stand, but in some cases schools may have a tighter distribution around their means than the national average, such as having no one with an MCAT below 26 or something like that.

My science gpa might end up being higher than the cumulative gpa. Currently it is a ~3.3/~3.4

Is that ok?

How would a med school view a ~3.3/~3.4 vs a ~3.4/~3.3

I'm only half way through college (incoming junior).

 

[VisualEvolution]

My science gpa might end up being higher than the cumulative gpa. Currently it is a ~3.3/~3.4

Is that ok?

How would a med school view a ~3.3/~3.4 vs a ~3.4/~3.3

I'm only half way through college (incoming junior).

I'm confident most schools put more emphasis on the science GPA, but I could be wrong. You also got a lot of time to get both your cGPA and sGPA up, finish strong.

 

[Dreamstoo]

I'm confident most schools put more emphasis on the science GPA, but I could be wrong. You also got a lot of time to get both your cGPA and sGPA up, finish strong.

Yep if I somehow 4.0 the rest of my credits I would be at a ~3.7/~3.7 for DO and ~3.7/~3.5 for MD (if this happens I would be really happy). I kinda fooled around the first two years (My work ethic had many flaws) and really didn't have a plan. Now I realize I really do want to be a doctor (i was pre med before but I was contemplating other careers).

 

[VisualEvolution]

Yep if I somehow 4.0 the rest of my credits I would be at a ~3.7/~3.7 for DO and ~3.7/~3.5 for MD (if this happens I would be really happy). I kinda fooled around the first two years and really didn't have a plan. Now I realize I really do want to be a doctor (i was pre med before but I was contemplating other careers).

I did the same thing. I had no intentions on doing medicine and had a 3.5/3.4 the first two years. Once I decided that I wanted to do medicine, I got a 3.95-4.0 every semester afterwards and I'm now sitting on a 3.81/3.65 GPA. When you realize that this is truly what you wanna do with your life, I don't think you will have trouble.

 

[Dreamstoo]

I did the same thing. I had no intentions on doing medicine and had a 3.5/3.4 the first two years. Once I decided that I wanted to do medicine, I got a 3.95-4.0 every semester afterwards and I'm now sitting on a 3.81/3.65 GPA. When you realize that this is truly what you wanna do with your life, I don't think you will have trouble.

Exactly. Statistically, I'm only behind in cGPA for the average matriculant for DO schools. I'm taking a gap year regardless (also applying to MDs if I get a solid mcat score in the mid 30s). All of my friends recommend a gap year.

Taken the MCAT sometime in 2014. With a lot of studying this summer, I have gotten my PS to about a 10-12, BS to about a 8-9, and my verbal to about a 7-8. I hope to score somewhere in the 32-40 range. I would be ecstatic with a 32.

Verbal I'm using examkrakers. My friend improved his verbal (5-6) to a (9-10) within 2 months of using it.

 

[bigred605]

Exactly. Statistically, I'm only behind in cGPA for the average matriculant for DO schools. I'm taking a gap year regardless (also applying to MDs if I get a solid mcat score in the mid 30s). All of my friends recommend a gap year.

Taken the MCAT sometime in 2014. With a lot of studying this summer, I have gotten my PS to about a 10-12, BS to about a 8-9, and my verbal to about a 7-8. I hope to score somewhere in the 32-40 range. I would be ecstatic with a 32.

Verbal I'm using examkrakers. My friend improved his verbal (5-6) to a (9-10) within 2 months of using it.

I also used exam krackers and found it somewhat useful. What I found to be the most beneficial was a site called course saver. It is relatively cheap and there are videos covering the sciences specific for the mcat. I would advise anyone and everyone to try this site. It sure helped me a lot!

 

[TriagePreMed]

I'm confident most schools put more emphasis on the science GPA, but I could be wrong. You also got a lot of time to get both your cGPA and sGPA up, finish strong.

You're not wrong. When I contacted Western and Touro, they both pretty much told me that my low cGPA is not an issue and what matters is my sGPA that's competitive for their programs.

 

[scarecrow90]

My science gpa might end up being higher than the cumulative gpa.

I can never understand how people's science GPAs are bigger than their cumulative. But, if it is, good for you! 🙂