willthatsall said:
If you are joking, it's pretty funny that you fooled everyone for so long. If not, that's one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard. Here's a correlation: If your MCAT score correlates with your posts on this thread, you definitely scored below 30 and probably below 25.
Wow you are a total ass, and as per my score, that is none of your concern. I assure you it in no way correlates with your opinion of my posts.
But I do believe reading comprehensive skills can be learned with a lot of reading and do help a great deal in this test, in addition to understanding material.
Believe it or not, many of the people I know whom have gotten 35+ will tell you the same thing.
As per SAT/ACT correlation, well you can say whatever you want but you know what, the two tests are graded in a totally different manner and one is based on bell curve while the other is based on a totally different system.
Second off, as someone else pointed out, one is sole aptitude, while the other actually requires aptitude and understanding and that is a fact.
He11, just look at Nena's post. By far she falls into Your and Moose's category of a 1500 plus SAT. Yet, I don't see her score anywhere near the national average.
I really have to wonder why it makes any such difference to people like you and Moose about what others hopes are. You all already took the MCAT and passed, so why don't you just go on with your damn business and application process and leave the people whom are currently studying for the MCAT and what not alone. Frankly, I don't see what makes you guys think you are sooooo much better than people based on one numerical score
If you were in my homeland, your MCAT score would look pathetic, because where I'm from that test is nothing compared to what they give you. Frankly, if you want a correlation of intelligence. I'll give you a correlation of intelligence. A true correlation of intelligence is far better seen in a system where there is no multiple choice bull**** but a you really know it or you don't know it written test. If you want correlations of intelligence try testing for 3 days straight just to pass college and get a degree through some very hard national exams. Try learning how to learn all these things like math that you use fancy calculators and computers for with the use of tables and lack thereof technology. Then I'll give you some credence. But as far as I'm concerned I don't believe there is any true complete correlation between standardized testing and intelligence with the kind of testing systems they used here. There are people whom have been on this board with lesser scores than most, and still did very very well once they got to medical school and in many cases at the very top of their class through hard work. So don't give me that bull**** of yours.
Frankly, I don't see what it is to you or to your buddies Shrike and Moose what others hope to achieve. Go mind your own business and do your thing and let others do theirs.
As per Moose and Shrike,
Shrike, if you aren't applying to med school, why are you worried about what other people think of the test and about getting so high? Do you feel you have something to prove? What about you Moose? What is your problem with other people hoping to achieve a good score? As someone pointed out it took you three sittings on that test to get a 36.
One more thing to Withall,
I have known at least 4 or 5 nontraditional students in the past year that got a 34+ as well as personally know the woman whom got the 43S. With the exception of the last case, the others were not always stellar students.
In fact some of them barely had a 3.0 because at my age they were not as studious etc. etc. nor did they do extremely well on their MCAT. However, life experience contributed a great deal to focus and learning true analytical skills in the workplace. As a result, when they came back to school they did much better and got both high grades and high MCAT scores. The one person whom has had 3 interviews in florida, barely had a 3.0 because she failed some classes from 8 yrs before, but as a nontrad got a 4.0 and a 34 on her MCAT. Another guy, had a 2.6 as a business major, but got a 4.0 in his sciences at an age of 39, and a 35 on the MCAT. There are other stories similar to that one, and the one thing they all have in common is that time and age contributed to better focussing skills and analytical skills. So don't tell me my arguments are false. Because what I say is what I've seen from personal experience talking to students in my area, not stuff I just made up out of the likes of an over imaginative mind.
As per the SAT and MCAT. Well first off, let us look at a couple of things. If you want to compare MCAT to any highschool entrance exam, it is better correlated with the ACT which actually has a science section. SAT, however, is totally aptitude based. And I'm not the only one whom has seemed to point that out to you and others on this board. MCAT however is aptitude plus test taking skills plus knowledge of science classes, etc.
Second off, I was told by my former MCAT teacher and TPR test center that the MCAT was graded in such a way that you are graded against the people whom have your form of the test. So looking at the scenario of a difficult form of the test vs. easier form of the test, if the group of students with harder form of the test get say only 50 right vs. those with the easier form getting 65 out of 77 right, then the curve for the test with the harder form is set based on the number of questions that were correct. Overall scales are set by adjusting scores of the different tests at the end. At least this is what others told me last summer at the Tampa Princeton review test centers.
Therefore, you are never going to see a very high number of people whom are at any of the extremes. However, that does not mean that studying won't pay off and that the possibility of getting a high score is diminished. Several of the cases that I have known have done exactly that, taken several practice tests and done their workbooks til they understood each and every passage and it quite dearly paid off.