Phi Delta Chi vs. Kappa Psi

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I'm still debating whether I should join a fraternity or not. I don't know how beneficial that would be for me later on. I'm just afraid that I wouldn't have enough time right now to do all the extra work involved with them. Most of the students at my school want to join PDC because that's where all the "fun" and "cool" kids are. Students in Kappa Psi told me that it would help with residency if I joined them because PDC is all about retail. I searched a little online, but didn't really find any information that says one is for residency while the other is for retail. I would really appreciate if someone can tell me more about the two. I didn't really learn much when I went to their rush events. Thanks a lot 🙂
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i'm pretty sure it varies by chapter. what school do you go to?
 
DreamSeller said:
I'm still debating whether I should join a fraternity or not. I don't know how beneficial that would be for me later on. I'm just afraid that I wouldn't have enough time right now to do all the extra work involved with them. Most of the students at my school want to join PDC because that's where all the "fun" and "cool" kids are. Students in Kappa Psi told me that it would help with residency if I joined them because PDC is all about retail. I searched a little online, but didn't really find any information that says one is for residency while the other is for retail. I would really appreciate if someone can tell me more about the two. I didn't really learn much when I went to their rush events. Thanks a lot 🙂
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It really is just a matter of who you fit in better with. There is no truth about retail vs residency debate however, in general there are more Kappa Psi people in the higher ups of pharmacy than PDC. (That doesn't mean there are no PDC's in the higher ups) Many if not most KY chapters pride themselves on community service, fraternal bonds and unforgettable memories. If you search around these boards, you will see many people on SDN are KY, including quite a few of our moderators. Whatever you do, pick wisely because you get only one choice...
 
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Pick the group that fits you best, end of story.

Of course, if you like to hang around people with insufferable attitudes about their own righteousness, go KY. 😉
 
What are the actual benefits of joining fraternity besides just networking?
 
janeno said:
What are the actual benefits of joining fraternity besides just networking?
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Files of old tests, notes, upper classmen that point you in the right direction, huge parties, chicks, fun times....


I'm a KY. Joining a fraternity is a very personal decision and chapters vary widely between campuses. It was a great thing for me, made 6 years fly by. Most of my best friends are KY guys from pharmacy school. Get to know the brothers as best as you can, don't just jump into it without knowing what you are getting into.

Many pharmacy fraternity chapters operate as professional clubs- we were much more like a traditional fraternity in that we had a dedicated house and did the things that social fraternities do. The professional only club type of thing- I don't see much benefit in joining. Again, it's a personal decision that you are going to have to figure out for yourself.
 
PDX is the only pharmacy fraternity at ISU, but I still am glad that I chose to be a PhiDex brother over any other fraternity.

I've made awesome friends, had a lot of fun, and I know that I'm going to have a great network to rely upon after I graduate. One really great thing about our chapter (and Phi Delta Chi in general) is just how accepting we are of people. It's funny to see who's in the fraternity - some people you would expect and others you might not. We've got partiers, shy book-worms, very religious people, people with kids, and even one married couple that rushed together. But even though our members can be quite different, we all somehow seem to get along and have a great time.

I'm fairly certain that I can rely on my brothers for just about anything, and they know that they can come to me too. Our motto, "Alterum Alterius Auxilio Eget" - Each Needs the Help of the Other - is key.

And Phi Delta Chi is not just about partying either. We do a lot for our local community and our fellow students. Last year our chapter hosted a spaghetti feed and games night for at-risk teens, we helped raise over $10,000 for the school during a phone-a-thon, and this year our incoming pledge class took the initiative to convert a small, seldom used office in the pharmacy building into a nice space for nursing/pumping mothers.

I'm sure that KY is a great fraternity too, but PDX is right for me.
 
At my school, it seems like the division between PDC and KY is purely racial.
 
I agree that it varies per school. Kappa Psi is currently the more popular one at my school but that has more to do with some belief here that Kappa Psi is the social fraternity and PDX is the more academic one. My outgoing classmates bought into that apparently leading to 29 people being recently inducted into Kappa Psi versus about ten for PDX. Yet, my contacts from other states tell me about schools where PDX predominates.

When I was mulling over KY and PDX, I simply identified my needs and evaluated which fraternity addressed them the best. There shouldn't be a stigma for either fraternity and both can be beneficial to your goals and needs. They honestly do the same d**n thing and any difference you hear is purely reflective of clique-ness.
 
I'm a member of LKS, and have never regretted joining a pharmacy frat over a social sorority. All of the members have at least one similar interest, and we provide support for other sisters while trying to get into the program and going through. Our chapter has plenty of social events, but we also focus on health (not just pharmacy) in our community service and professional projects. I can turn to a sister for help with classes, work, or the general stress of pharmacy school and they'll understand. We also have the added benefit over the social organizations of being in a very small, close-knit school within a large university. We get lots of support from our administration whenever we need it, and we can reach out to the whole university.

When it comes to picking a specific fraternity, decide who you fit in most with. Look at the types of events/projects each group has and think about how involved you want to be. At my school, LKS is the largest and by far the most involved group. Having so many members means girls can get as involved as they want. Also, are they co-ed or all male/female? PDX is co-ed here and KY is all male. And as for which is better for residency and that sort of question, I don't think it matters which organization you join but rather if you get involved within the organization.
 
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ucrx said:
Also, are they co-ed or all male/female? PDX is co-ed here and KY is all male. And as for which is better for residency and that sort of question, I don't think it matters which organization you join but rather if you get involved within the organization.
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It depends on the campus/school. There are several all-male chapters of PDC.

Having AZO, LKS, KY & PDC on this campus it's an interesting dynamic. About 60 - 70 students (out of 120ish student class) join one of the fraternities. It's great to see the different dynamics of the chapters on campus.
 
yes, it varies school to school.

Our KY chapter is longstanding while our PDX just started last year.

we did have some issues with rush this year - it was obnoxious to hear from 1st years that "Kappa Psi was full of a bunch of drunks who fail their classes" so we had to put out a press release refuting that... I think competition is a very good thing but people take this stuff way too seriously. Even though I'm KY, I was invited to AZO events while I was on rotation this summer in another state.
 
They're both co-ed at OU.

I didn't care which one was the academic one or which one is the party one. I found the one that fit me best and went with it. I have 4 friends that went through the pledge process as a Kappa Psi but ended up deciding it wasn't their cup of tea. The people in the fraternities here are very diverse and have different "hobbies", but there is something for almost everyone.

That being said, I am a PDX.
 
It all depends on who you fit in best with. I don't really buy the fact that one fraternity has better networking than others. You will have connections no matter which fraternity you join. I pledged PDX and I have loved every second of it. That isn't to say that KY is bad, but it just wasn't for me. I recently went to a regional meeting for PDX and it was a very cool experience where I got to meet other brothers from across the nation. If you have decided on a fraternity, then don't let anyone talk you into which one to join based on "potential networking" or something foolish like that.

AAAE
 
no KE brothers/sisters out there?
 
This year our class went about 50:50 frat vs non-frat. Of those that joined a frat ~50 joined PDX, ~40 AIP (USC only) and then 1 joined LKS (myself). It seems to be a more "get in where you fit in" situation, though there is always a big push to tell people where they fit in. We don't have Rho Pi Phi, KY, or KE here. I'm not sure how long ago Ro Pi Phi disbanded on campus, and I'm not sure if we ever had KY or KE.

http://www.phideltachi.org/
http://www.lks.org/
http://www.kappaepsilon.org/
http://www.kappapsi.org/
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/rhopiphi/
http://www.alphaiotapi.com/main.html
 
I have never been to a school with a PDX chapter, so I can't say much about the organization. I have, however, been involved with Kappa Psi at two different institutions. The experience is what you make of it, regardless of where you are. How social or academic you are depends on you, not on the people around you. No one is going to make you into something that you are not. I have met alot of wonderful and supportive people through Kappa Psi, both current students and graduates.
 
genesis09 said:
At my school, it seems like the division between PDC and KY is purely racial.
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Have you guys noticed that
KY= WASP
PDC= the rest (jewish, hispanics, asians, indians, etc.)
 
FLGators74 said:
Have you guys noticed that
KY= WASP
PDC= the rest (jewish, hispanics, asians, indians, etc.)
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Now thinking about it, you're right! Same thing at my school! :laugh:
 
depends on the school, yet again.

there is a KY chapter in the west that is all asian dudes of various ethnicities.
 
I don't see the reason why the 3 people that answered that one particular question got banned or on probation?
 
ForTce said:
I would say PDC is much more multicultural than KY...
See the difference...

KY: http://kydeltarho.org/activities_files/Photos/greekwars%20117_edited.jpg

PDC: http://www.phidex.org/photos/2005-2006/FebMeeting/frontjenncathymongdawnmonicasamanthaannbackmarthajonmarciashawnsoraidasaidehmodavid.jpg
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wow...talk about some real misinformation on that picture you posted....try a picture of the entire chapter made of african americans, cubans, many different south americans, indians and of course white people...that picture is a very small representation of the entire chapter...dingus
 
Caverject said:
wow...talk about some real misinformation on that picture you posted....try a picture of the entire chapter made of african americans, cubans, many different south americans, indians and of course white people...that picture is a very small representation of the entire chapter...dingus
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even in a diverse group, folks will split into ethnic cliques...
 
DreamSeller said:
Yes, I have noticed that...hmm...that's interesting
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Such an inaccurate blanket statement. Im KY, my chapter is such a mixed bag its not even funny. African american, asian, indian, white, south american, etc. you name it, we got it.
 
StallionRx said:
Such an inaccurate blanket statement. Im KY, my chapter is such a mixed bag its not even funny. African american, asian, indian, white, south american, etc. you name it, we got it.
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I was referring to my school when I made that comment.
 
how many ways does this statement need to be repeated?????????




"It varies school-to-school; chapter-to-chapter"




this thread should officially get LOCKED
 
It varies. BTW, not to really dignify the diversity question between the two fraternities as an issue that even exists, I would just point out that there is diversity in Kappa Psi at the grand officer levels as well as throughout the leadership, Internationally and on chapter levels. Sure it varies from chapter to chapter, but that is usually a lot more reflective of demographics of the schools themselves and the areas surround them. Kappa Psi as well as Phi Delta Chi, Nationally/Internationally, are meant to be all-inclusive with regards to the diversity reflective of pharmacy practice.
 
As everyone says...the KY and PDX vary per school. You'll have to see who you "click" with. For me, I didn't know why I joined a fraternity except to meet new people and getting to know more people and do stuff with my "brothers", through social or community service events. Now, the fees are about the same and each fraternity are no better than the other. There isn't too much of a difference between in terms of philosopy. You'll just have to ask around about what the fraternities have done (community service, promotion of the profession, etc) and see how ACTIVE they are.

My own spiel...if you must, go ahead and try it out. You can always quit while you're rushing if you are unhappy. When you do make it in, try to get as much out of it as you can to make it worthwhile, whether making new friendships, making a poster/booth for your school's health fair, and/or taking on leadership roles and leading the fraternity yourself later on.
 
at my school, kappa psi was established this year and pdx is tryin to get a charter....

so far...not much interest in PDX.

i think it greatly varies by school and the people who head up the chapters.

in my opinion race does not and should not play a factor in the pledging process.
 
Personally, I already had friends.

I'll never understand why the hell anyone would want to spend more time with the people you are forced to be around for 4 straight years. Seeing them made me think of school. Thinking of school made me nauseous...thus...
 
WVUPharm2007 said:
Personally, I already had friends.

I'll never understand why the hell anyone would want to spend more time with the people you are forced to be around for 4 straight years. Seeing them made me think of school. Thinking of school made me nauseous...thus...
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exactly my thoughts
 
WVUPharm2007 said:
Personally, I already had friends.

I'll never understand why the hell anyone would want to spend more time with the people you are forced to be around for 4 straight years. Seeing them made me think of school. Thinking of school made me nauseous...thus...
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Why so sour, kraut? I say let each person decide whether or not he or she wants to join a pharmacy fraternity for his or her own personal reasons. These organizations are about more than "being forced" to be around your classmates. They actually--or should--do a lot for the community and are good for networking.

If it wasn't your cup of tea, great, but don't piss on other people's parades for joining. 😉 😛
 
Glycerin said:
Why so sour, kraut? I say let each person decide whether or not he or she wants to join a pharmacy fraternity for his or her own personal reasons. These organizations are about more than "being forced" to be around your classmates. They actually--or should--do a lot for the community and are good for networking.

If it wasn't your cup of tea, great, but don't piss on other people's parades for joining. 😉 😛
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I'll piss on your head, Missy. Then dance around and laugh at you. Like R. Kelly.
 
Here's a secret to enjoy the benefits of being in a frat without joining one:

(1) Get one member of one frat to give you their notes and test questions and then exchange it with a member of a different frat. Classic bait and switch.

(2) Dont worry about the social scene. When you are good looking and has a whole bunch of charisma, people will be drawn to you like flies to horse **** (this may not apply to all of you).
 
At my school it's kappa psi that feels the need to lie about Phi Delta Chi. So much for being a "professional" pharmacy fraternity.
 
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