Physician Side Hustles

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Go on physician community forums on Facebook with the crazy lady monitoring every post that’s posted or generated for side gigs.
 
It definitely is, especially if you get stupid and greedy. But you can earn fairly reliable income from it.
What I've learned by having "fun" with paper money options trading:

1. Noone goes broke taking profit.
2. Always set your stop losses
3. Don't do it at work - saving someone's life can distract you from that massive move that just ate up your last 3 month's gainz. And having to save someone's life will ALWAYS come when the stakes are high.
 
I have a friend who had some land along a couple of major highways. He was approached 15 years ago about putting up a billboard on his land. I don't recall the actual numbers, but he soon negotiated with the company and told them about some more land he had in a different area and did they want to place billboards there as well. Eventually, I think he negotiated for around 18 billboards on his land. He said he makes as much money from the billboards as he does from being an anesthesiologist. He calls it his mailbox money. He literally does nothing and the money just flows in.
I have a gig with a friend in a company with low overhead and high profit margins. I am a small part owner and there will be a ramp up period of about 7 years where all earnings will be put back into the business to open additional locations, hoping to get to about 10-20 different sites. My initial investment was only around $75K, so I am not in it for too much if it goes belly up. Once that matures, I hope to have a nice passive income stream. Playing the long game on this one. I have done ventures with the friend before and it was a really good experience as a silent partner, so I hope the track record holds up.
 
I was thinking more like sources of passive income. So that you dont have to rely on medicine as much.
Work more and/or find higher paying gigs. Invest the money into tax advantaged accounts first, then low cost index funds. Best way to “passive” income for most docs. We go through training coming out with enormous shovels. Put that shovel to use.
 
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Work more and/or find higher paying gigs. Invest the money into tax advantaged accounts first, then low cost index funds. Best way to “passive” income for most docs. We go through training coming out with enormous shovels. Put that shovel to use.
Agree with you there. A colleague used to do projects around the house and get low quality results because he wasn't an expert. He said, now, "I pay the experts to come do the work and I just work an extra saturday to more than offset the costs, plus it helps the community by keeping good companies employed and busy doing what they are experts at." That hit home with me and I think he had the right idea.
 
Work more and/or find higher paying gigs. Invest the money into tax advantaged accounts first, then low cost index funds. Best way to “passive” income for most docs. We go through training coming out with enormous shovels. Put that shovel to use.
Oh its a great shovel. But i always want a bigger and bigger shovel is the problem lol. I don't think you’re understanding the assignment. Im not desperate im ambitious.
 
OP - I keep having the same question. I want to have something that's true passive(ish) income but I've really not come across anything that makes sense.

I've come across plenty of bizarre crypto, options trading, and scammy real estate schemes - but none of them seem legit or logical. Sadly real estate seems like a dead deal now with the way property values and the economy are... otherwise that'd be a tangible legitimate thing that could be a cash flowing low enough maintenance idea.

Creating a business that quasi runs itself seems like the most legitimate side hustle. But in what I don't know really. A guy I work with has 10 gas stations and rakes in the dough. Another owns several coffee shops, and another was selling supplements online. I think all of them ultimately put in a ton of work to get their businesses going and financially they may have been just as well moonlighting and investing in the market.

All that said, have you considered becoming president and creating a sham crypto empire while taking bribes and selling strange gold accented Chinese shoes and bibles with your name on them? I hear those are some cool side hustles.
 
Work more and/or find higher paying gigs. Invest the money into tax advantaged accounts first, then low cost index funds. Best way to “passive” income for most docs. We go through training coming out with enormous shovels. Put that shovel to use.
At some point the RMDs from these "tax advantaged accounts" can be quite large so plan on Roth Conversions for at least 1/2 of it, maybe more, so you will need a large brokerage account as well to manage retirement. If you aren't doing Backdoor Roth conversions then start immediately as this is the best account to have under the age of 50. You may need to open a solo 401K at Schwab or Fidelity if you have an Traditional/Rollover IRAs so you can transfer those funds into the solo 401K to avoid the Pro rata rule. All you need is a little side hustle of 1099 work for this strategy to work.
 
Agree with you there. A colleague used to do projects around the house and get low quality results because he wasn't an expert. He said, now, "I pay the experts to come do the work and I just work an extra saturday to more than offset the costs, plus it helps the community by keeping good companies employed and busy doing what they are experts at." That hit home with me and I think he had the right idea.
Funny thing is when I do my own work I get head and shoulders better results than if I pay some schmuck to half azz it. To me its less about money, more about having pride in what I do and doing the best job possible.
 
OP - I keep having the same question. I want to have something that's true passive(ish) income but I've really not come across anything that makes sense.

I've come across plenty of bizarre crypto, options trading, and scammy real estate schemes - but none of them seem legit or logical. Sadly real estate seems like a dead deal now with the way property values and the economy are... otherwise that'd be a tangible legitimate thing that could be a cash flowing low enough maintenance idea.

Creating a business that quasi runs itself seems like the most legitimate side hustle. But in what I don't know really. A guy I work with has 10 gas stations and rakes in the dough. Another owns several coffee shops, and another was selling supplements online. I think all of them ultimately put in a ton of work to get their businesses going and financially they may have been just as well moonlighting and investing in the market.

All that said, have you considered becoming president and creating a sham crypto empire while taking bribes and selling strange gold accented Chinese shoes and bibles with your name on them? I hear those are some cool side hustles.
Right, this is more within the vein of what I was thinking of. I would love to own some businesses. Just no idea where to start. I have perused bizbuysell.com a few times. Laundromats sound great.
 
Funny thing is when I do my own work I get head and shoulders better results than if I pay some schmuck to half azz it. To me its less about money, more about having pride in what I do and doing the best job possible.
I agree if it is something that I can youtube and learn or if I have the proper tools. But, many things are above my skill level, even if I could teach myself. Tree work is one of those things. I have done it and know how to do it and I think I can do it mostly safely, but I have seen too many things go awry and I like to leave it to the experts for anything that might be dangerous or too big of a job or might require tools that are better than the meager ones I have. I don't want to end up in the ER or in a wheelchair.
But, I agree with being self sufficient if you are capable. I am below average at most repair work, so it is likely that my work will be subpar. Your results are likely better than mine.
 
Funny thing is when I do my own work I get head and shoulders better results than if I pay some schmuck to half azz it. To me its less about money, more about having pride in what I do and doing the best job possible.
Other side to the professional coin also is that there's no guarantees that a professional will do it correctly. Like you said,there are a lot of professionals that will half ass it.
 
Other side to the professional coin also is that there's no guarantees that a professional will do it correctly. Like you said,there are a lot of professionals that will half ass it.
Exactly. Ive found hiring people to be hit or miss. There are some types of skilled labor I wont do. Like masonry, or trees like Blanston said.
 
At some point the RMDs from these "tax advantaged accounts" can be quite large so plan on Roth Conversions for at least 1/2 of it, maybe more, so you will need a large brokerage account as well to manage retirement. If you aren't doing Backdoor Roth conversions then start immediately as this is the best account to have under the age of 50. You may need to open a solo 401K at Schwab or Fidelity if you have an Traditional/Rollover IRAs so you can transfer those funds into the solo 401K to avoid the Pro rata rule. All you need is a little side hustle of 1099 work for this strategy to work.
I’ve never understood the complaints of RMDs. Unless you’re going to never spend the money and leave it to heirs, you have to take it out anyway to spend it.
 
Exactly. Ive found hiring people to be hit or miss. There are some types of skilled labor I wont do. Like masonry, or trees like Blanston said.
My brother did his own retaining wall about 10 years ago. Has had back problems and needed epidural steroid injections, time off work, leg weakness, and potentially surgery.

I’d rather pay the $15k to the workers.
 
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At some point the RMDs from these "tax advantaged accounts" can be quite large so plan on Roth Conversions for at least 1/2 of it, maybe more, so you will need a large brokerage account as well to manage retirement. If you aren't doing Backdoor Roth conversions then start immediately as this is the best account to have under the age of 50. You may need to open a solo 401K at Schwab or Fidelity if you have an Traditional/Rollover IRAs so you can transfer those funds into the solo 401K to avoid the Pro rata rule. All you need is a little side hustle of 1099 work for this strategy to work.
I am fully on a 1099. Backdoor roth-check. Brokerage acct-check. I cant do a solo 401k because I have employees but my wife and I both max out contributions.
 
My brother did his own retaining wall about 10 years ago. Has had back problems and needed epidural steroid injections, time off work, leaf weakness, and potentially surgery.

I’d rather pay the $15k to the workers.
Like I said- I wouldnt do masonry. Haha. Actually I did it for one summer as a teenager and that left quite a negative impression on me. Wont do things like that- roofs, masonry, trees, etc.
 
I asked around and some of my colleagues don’t even fund their retirement accounts. It boggles my mind

A side hustle a colleague does is iv infusions for hangovers. Told me they were making a decent amount for it.
 
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Like I said- I wouldnt do masonry. Haha. Actually I did it for one summer as a teenager and that left quite a negative impression on me. Wont do things like that- roofs, masonry, trees, etc.
Yeah some of these physical tasks are so rough on the body. I figure they’re worth a professional doing them because hopefully they also have the experience to not self injure.
 
My uncle was doing work around the house on a ladder recently. Lost his step and fell from about 7 feet high. Flared up his cervical radiculopathy. Not a happy camper right now. Just pay and offload these tasks.
One thing I can tell you is that I do not trust anybody working on my cars. The only things I outsource there are engine internals and transmission work.
 
My uncle was doing work around the house on a ladder recently. Lost his step and fell from about 7 feet high. Flared up his cervical radiculopathy. Not a happy camper right now. Just pay and offload these tasks.


I’ve had scores of patients who fell off ladders.


This was a similar accident. I believe he fell while shoveling snow off his roof.


 
Yeah some of these physical tasks are so rough on the body. I figure they’re worth a professional doing them because hopefully they also have the experience to not self injure.
Exactly. Plus, depending on the tasks, there are specific tools and protective equipment available to make it safer and less risk of injury that they may have that I don’t. They are also likely in better physical shape than I am with more muscle strength and stamina in the particular muscle groups required to do certain tasks.
 
Work more and/or find higher paying gigs. Invest the money into tax advantaged accounts first, then low cost index funds. Best way to “passive” income for most docs. We go through training coming out with enormous shovels. Put that shovel to use.

Got a buddy doc whos been working hard maybe 13-14 years who says hes been just investing it in the market. Now says as long as the market gives a normal 7-10% return he makes his 450k ish doc salary twice over yearly.

That shud be most peoples goal imo as far as passive income goes.
 
Alright lets hear it. Hows everybody generating multiple income streams? I have some real estate Im renting out. Other than that general investments. Looking for ways to generate more side streams of income. Anybody care to share ideas?

It's tough to be have truly passive income. Rentals are great but anything real estate related is significantly impacted by location.

Plus if it's residential, you have the headache of non paying tenants and issues with evictions etc.

The stock market and playing the options game can yield a nice bit of cash.

Other options still require time:

Get paid by a pharmaceutical company/medical device company ( not that easy to get hooked in but you can make a decent bit of cash giving talks etc. It does seem to attract the same type of personality though)

Be on a judicial review committee for an insurance company ( usually when they are trying to kick a physician off their panel). I did it for a case and it paid $300/hr or so. Basically be on a zoom meeting from home hearing some lawyers argue. Not consistent time or pay.
 
Got a buddy doc whos been working hard maybe 13-14 years who says hes been just investing it in the market. Now says as long as the market gives a normal 7-10% return he makes his 450k ish doc salary twice over yearly.

That shud be most peoples goal imo as far as passive income goes.
Good for him. Can coast.

Though 13-14 years in the market isn’t long enough since there hasn’t been a true bear market in that time span. Any downturn can change people perception really quick that last 5-7 years to return back to market highs.

But enough of a head start for him/her. They can withstand any brutal downtown
 
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