Physician vs. Dentist.. Thoughts?

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The Great Debate continues..
Yes I know, This question has been brought up a few times, and yes i did search. All of the threads I have found were outdated by a few years
and many events have occured in the world since then. So, as you can see, i have decided to bring up the question yet again.
Dentist vs. Physician.

What are the Pro's and con's of each field?

Which would be considered to be harder?

Which has the better lifestyle?

Which makes more money?

Do Dentist pretty much have to own a practice to be successful?

Chances of specializing in both fields?

Which is more rewarding?

Which has less stress?

Any thoughts would be helpful.

-Thanks.

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I think the dentist takes the fight...I mean how does the physician deal with the laughing gas?? And we all know how dangerous it is if the dentist gets the physician in that chair, it's pretty much over then

I don't know, that's my take...any thoughts?
 
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The Great Debate continues..
Yes I know, This question has been brought up a few times, and yes i did search. All of the threads I have found were outdated by a few years
and many events have occured in the world since then. So, as you can see, i have decided to bring up the question yet again.
Dentist vs. Physician.

What are the Pro's and con's of each field?

Which would be considered to be harder?
A lot of people seem to believe dental school is harder.
Which has the better lifestyle?
Dentistry
Which makes more money?
Mostly dependent on how hard you wanna work.
Do Dentist pretty much have to own a practice to be successful?
There are commercial opportunities for dentists too... Check the dent forum for that.
Chances of specializing in both fields?
Yes
Which is more rewarding?
That's up to you, chief.
Which has less stress?
Dentistry
Any thoughts would be helpful.

-Thanks.

:)
 
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I'd say dentistry is easier, you work less hours, and make pretty good money. However, it all depends on what you want to do. I have absolutely no interest in becoming a dentist, however much easier it may be.

Also, I don't know anyone that is a dentist, so I can't say for sure that it's easier. Just my general impression.
 
I think the dentist takes the fight...I mean how does the physician deal with the laughing gas?? And we all know how dangerous it is if the dentist gets the physician in that chair, it's pretty much over then

I don't know, that's my take...any thoughts?

Any of course, dentists have more time for lifting.
 
den·tist·ry   
[den-tuh-stree]
–noun
the profession or science dealing with the prevention and treatment of diseases and malformations of the teeth, gums, and oral cavity, and the removal, correction, and replacement of decayed, damaged, or lost parts, including such operations as the filling and crowning of teeth, the straightening of teeth, and the construction of artificial dentures.

Read the above definition. If you do not want to do that for the rest of your life, don't become a dentist.
 
The only real downside to being a dentist are kids, but that can be said for any health profession really. But on a plus side it is often acceptable, both by the dentist and parents to use...I am not sure what they are called...but some "safe" relaxing supplements and or...whatever the other thing is...

Basically, you can put the kid to sleep or give them supplement and they will chill out for the duration of the procedure. With a regular physician you probably can not really do that with such ease, could be wrong though.

Overall, dentistry would be the easier route. You do your work, little to no communication with the patient and your are done. Everything you need to know is shown on the xrays, not necessary for the patient to elaborate on the symptoms and such.

And "best of all" almost every single procedure is identical. ~90% it's a cavity, ~10% it's something else. I doubt they receive too many of "What the hell? I don't remember this in dentistry school!"
 
It's all on the individual. Dentistry has to get boring though. From a superficial lifestyle pov, I think dentistry has it better.
 
So what do you guys think about the salary differences? and differences in dental school and medical school? and also the amount of difficulty it is to specialize in dentistry vs. medicine.?
 
That's what i hear. Are their residencies like that of physicians? For example, do they get paid, or is it more like going to a new school and you pay?
 
I think we should ask demh23 for his input. He seems to be very knowledgeable over a broad range of topics.
 
I say dentist because you can promote yourself like this:
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If you like people to listen to you, don't do dentisty. Consider this(in the case of a family dentist):

You see patients all the time, you finish cleaning the patients teeth, while not having much to talk about considering you're working inside of their mouth so conversation is pretty limited. After cleaning, (usually) the most helpful advice you can give is, your brushing is ok but you need to floss more. Said person comes back in 6 months and you realize that they didn't listen to a word you told them 6 months ago and that they completely brushed you off. Now consider that out of the hundreds of patients you see, only a couple may listen to your advice. Multiply that over the several years and there you have a great explanation as to why dentists have a high suicide rate.

just my $.02, If I were going to go to school for all that time, I at least want people to take my advice for them seriously.
Your joking right? Most people are dumb, sorry everyone but it's true. So not everyone is gonna do what they are suppose to do (period). Whats up with everyone posting a career's suicide rate? EVERY career will have a high suicide rate if you look at it by the numbers. Dentist have it ALOT better no matter how you slice it. The only reason most sdners might prefer medical school is because of the challenge.
 
If you like people to listen to you, don't do dentisty. Consider this(in the case of a family dentist):

You see patients all the time, you finish cleaning the patients teeth, while not having much to talk about considering you're working inside of their mouth so conversation is pretty limited. After cleaning, (usually) the most helpful advice you can give is, your brushing is ok but you need to floss more. Said person comes back in 6 months and you realize that they didn't listen to a word you told them 6 months ago and that they completely brushed you off. Now consider that out of the hundreds of patients you see, only a couple may listen to your advice. Multiply that over the several years and there you have a great explanation as to why dentists have a high suicide rate.

just my $.02, If I were going to go to school for all that time, I at least want people to take my advice for them seriously.

Can't you apply this same logic to a physician who tells someone to quit smoking or stop eating excessive sugars/fats?
 
Can't you apply this same logic to a physician who tells someone to quit smoking or stop eating excessive sugars/fats?

This. I would say that for the physician it would even be a lot more personal. For the dentist most of the time the worst that can happen is another cavity is formed, not good but not life ending in moat cases.

With the physician you can literally have numerous cases of "had he listened, he probably would be alive". Basically, the physician's work has enough power to determine between life and death. I would assume this is a very great burden to go to sleep with.
 
I agree, physicians to have much more responsibility and weight on their shoulders. I believe this causes more stress, and more difficult life. Dentist, on the other hand, don't have to deal with to much or any at all life or death decisions.

I do believe dentist aren't looked at as highly as doctors though.. It always takes me back to the movie The Hangover, where phil always says "He's not a real doctor, just a dentist". With more responsibility comes a higher prestige and greater respect.

In the end what do most believe is more valuable?
More respect and more school and more hours?
Or still high amount of prestige but not as much, with less school and less hours worked, and still comparable salary?
 
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On the plus side for dentists, they finish schooling+training earlier than MDs so they can start earning faster. My dentist went to a 3-year dental program (IIRC somewhere on the west coast); he's only 24 and is practicing in his own (very busy) dental office already.

Like someone noted earlier, if you like the dental profession and its job description suits your goals, go for it!
 
You see patients all the time, you finish cleaning the patients teeth, while not having much to talk about considering you're working inside of their mouth so conversation is pretty limited. After cleaning, (usually) the most helpful advice you can give is, your brushing is ok but you need to floss more. Said person comes back in 6 months and you realize that they didn't listen to a word you told them 6 months ago and that they completely brushed you off.

Sounds to me like you're describing a dental hygienist rather than a dentist.
 
I know i need to shadow a dentist, this just recently popped up as a choice to me. I have shadowed a dermatologist and it seems very enjoyable, and they too can have a pretty good lifestyle while still doing what they love. I like that, but also like the idea of dentist or possibly orthodontist. From what i hear, dermatologist and orthodonist residencies are the hardest residencies to get into in both fields. The difference is with dentistry, if i dont get in, i can still succeed without going to a residency. In medicine, after you get out of school you have to specialize in something so it seems!

Honestly, i was always very determined to be a doctor. But as of late, i have been very worrisome with the lifestyles of most doctors. I still want to have time for a family and be with kids, etc.. It seems easier to do this with dentistry, but there are some fields in medicine that allow this too.

At this moment im just trying to way the pros and cons of both fields and any more insight, or personal experiences would be of great help.
 
They are both great fields. Dentists mostly make braces and clean your teeth. Physicians are tasked with taking care of the foot and ankle. It depends on which area of the body you like.. Also you should consider becoming a doctor which deals with the rest of the body. All 3 have good quality of life.
 
They are both great fields. Dentists mostly make braces and clean your teeth. Physicians are tasked with taking care of the foot and ankle. It depends on which area of the body you like.. Also you should consider becoming a doctor which deals with the rest of the body. All 3 have good quality of life.
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To be honest that dmh23 guy is really weird. So I tend not to be confused with his random posts anymore.

He seems to have multiple accounts too, as evidenced by this post (which is in this thread):

I think we should ask demh23 for his input. He seems to be very knowledgeable over a broad range of topics.

:confused:
 
I agree, physicians to have much more responsibility and weight on their shoulders. I believe this causes more stress, and more difficult life. Dentist, on the other hand, don't have to deal with to much or any at all life or death decisions.

I do believe dentist aren't looked at as highly as doctors though.. It always takes me back to the movie The Hangover, where phil always says "He's not a real doctor, just a dentist". With more responsibility comes a higher prestige and greater respect.

In the end what do most believe is more valuable?
More respect and more school and more hours?
Or still high amount of prestige but not as much, with less school and less hours worked, and still comparable salary?

wow you really need to learn some things

which makes more money?- u are going to find some dentists who make more than doctors and some doctors who make more than dentists.. you can't just ask that type of question and get a definitive answer You also seem to think dentistry is easier..its NOT or EVERYONE WOULD BE DOING IT

You don't have to specialize as a doctor to make money (primary care). Dentists can end up very poor. It is not uncommon for dentists to have a starting salary of $$ 75-80K.

If I were you, I would pick medicine, because you seem to want an easy/secure way out and besides medicine is now having jobs that allow for a good work/family balance

If you want financial security, pick medicine. Here is why:

Let's say for whatever reason you mess up in med school and you can't specialize (highly unlikely): the average salary of a primary care doctor: " In 2009 primary-care doctors specifically those practicing family medicine and internal medicine earned an average of $201,548"

In dentistry, if you become a GP (which is very likely considering ortho is VERY difficult to get into and costs A LOT OF MONEY to startup an ortho practice): The median expected salary for a typical Dentist in the United States is $133,526"

Thats a difference of 70K. That's the best answer you can get.

just shadow doctors and dentists, this is the only way to decide. any other way (especially asking on an online forum) is stupid


this guy might be trolling, so everyone:


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To be honest that dmh23 guy is really weird. So I tend not to be confused with his random posts anymore.

He seems to have multiple accounts too, as evidenced by this post (which is in this thread):



:confused:
:laugh::laugh::laugh: His posts go perfectly with his avatar's face.
 
To be honest that dmh23 guy is really weird. So I tend not to be confused with his random posts anymore.

He seems to have multiple accounts too, as evidenced by this post (which is in this thread):



:confused:
You missed the sarcasm. demh23 is a random kid who hasn't even started college yet but apparently knows everything about med school admissions and how we should behave on message boards. You will notice when he posts it always has to do with what a loserly bunch we are on SDN and what horrible people we all are.
 
You missed the sarcasm. demh23 is a random kid who hasn't even started college yet but apparently knows everything about med school admissions and how we should behave on message boards. You will notice when he posts it always has to do with what a loserly bunch we are on SDN and what horrible people we all are.

It's true. Thanks to demh23 I finally realized what a jerk I am for being blunt in an online forum. Also that I something something.. I honestly didn't really read his reply, but it was something along those lines.
 
the great debate continues..
Yes i know, this question has been brought up a few times, and yes i did search. All of the threads i have found were outdated by a few years
and many events have occured in the world since then. So, as you can see, i have decided to bring up the question yet again.
Dentist vs. Physician.

What are the pro's and con's of each field?

Which would be considered to be harder?

in regards to admissions:


-getting into an m.d program is more difficult, but becoming a doctor is easier due to some d.o programs and the caribbean.
- the mcat is a more difficult exam than the dat ( dental admissions test, does not have physics and its questions are simpler)
- u.s. Medical school matriculants : Of all that apply, approx 44% gain admissions - look at attachment, page 3).
- dental school : About 40% gain admissions ( its not as easy as some would think). Look at attachment below

in regards to schooling:


medicine in general is more difficult, 4 years of med school, 3 years of residency and even more depending on what you end up doing.

Dental is 4 years of schooling ( 3 years in only one school, uop). After the 4 years, you are good to go unless you decide to specialize. Ny state requires 1 year of general dental residency, so several states require this one year for general dentistry. From what i hear, dental students can arguably have a more difficult time their first 2 years of dental school relative to med students because they are doing both didactic courses( it is assumed its not as intense as medical school classes) as well as spending a large amount of time in pre-clinic learning and improving on their hand skills.



which has the better lifestyle?

dental for the most part, unless you can get into an extremely competitive medical residency(ex. Derm).




which makes more money?

depends.


Do dentist pretty much have to own a practice to be successful?

no, and how do you define success?




chances of specializing in both fields?

dental= low ( top 10-15% of your class).
Physician= significantly higher


which is more rewarding?


depends on your preferences. Physician may be more rewarding in regards to saving a life, dental might be more rewarding in regards to having more time with your family.


which has less stress?

dental

any thoughts would be helpful.

-thanks.

gl
 

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I had no idea that these could even be compared? I could be completely wrong here, but I view person's who have a passion to become a physician as people who will never be happy without becoming a physician. I know for myself, I have the most intense passion to become a doctor, I couldn't imagine doing anything else. As a doctor, you can really get to know your patients, granted you might not get close with all of them, and save all their lives. But the potential is there to really, make a HUGE impact on changing lives, everyday. Dentistry doesn't really seem as passionate and deep as medicine.

But, I am very biased, I have experience in the medical field, and want to be a doctor, and basically know nothing of the dentistry field.

Dentistry does seem more kick back though, weekends off, normal "9-5" hours, I mean there is no emergency dentistry, in very rare cases maybe, though I wish there was sometimes. But anyways, that's how it seems anyways.
 
Dentists can end up very poor. It is not uncommon for dentists to have a starting salary of $$ 75-80K.

Let's say for whatever reason you mess up in med school and you can't specialize (highly unlikely): the average salary of a primary care doctor: " In 2009 primary-care doctors specifically those practicing family medicine and internal medicine earned an average of $201,548"

In dentistry, if you become a GP (which is very likely considering ortho is VERY difficult to get into and costs A LOT OF MONEY to startup an ortho practice): The median expected salary for a typical Dentist in the United States is $133,526"

First off... Don't pick a profession based on salaries, but i did want to correct this guy here about average dentist salaries.

75-80K starting off is not only uncommon, but actually unheard of... in fact nobody would go into dentistry if we made that much, we wouldn't be able to eat. You couldn't pay your loans and make a living on only 75K a year as a dentist... The going rate fore a first year associate dentist is about 110-130K+. As your speed increases you will make more, because you will be able to perform more procedures in a smaller amount of time.

Also, the average dentist according to the BLS makes 143K, but that is only "employee" dentists ie: hospitals, corporations, gov clinics etc. The vast, vast majority are in private practice.... so the most reliable source is the ADA for income verification. Here were the averages in 2009 for dentists and specialists that owned part or all of a practice:

Practice Net Income:

General Practice Dentists: $233,200
Periodontists: $279,540
Orthodontists: $290,200
Pediatric Dentists: $346,070
Endodontists: $366,340
OMFS: $516,260


https://www.ada.org/sections/profess...fs/09_sdpi.pdf
http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos072.htm

Not trying to start a pissing war, just wanted to get the facts out there so the OP could make a more informed decision.
 
Practice Net Income:

General Practice Dentists: $233,200
Periodontists: $279,540
Orthodontists: $290,200
Pediatric Dentists: $346,070
Endodontists: $366,340
OMFS: $516,260

If you convert these to $ per hour you'll see that they really kill physician salaries... Ex. I just had a root canal done... $1200... took the endo fellow <1hour. He works 24 hours per week and nets >$400K. He's a friendly fellow.
 
Salary and lifestyle of the AVERAGE physician(not specialties that demand lots of on-call/hours etc) and dentist are similar. It depends on what you like to do.
 
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The Great Debate continues..
Yes I know, This question has been brought up a few times, and yes i did search. All of the threads I have found were outdated by a few years
and many events have occured in the world since then. So, as you can see, i have decided to bring up the question yet again.
Dentist vs. Physician.

What are the Pro's and con's of each field?
One major advantage of dentistry is shorter years in training (assuming ofc, we don't end up specializing). Its 4 years (wellllll, more like 44 months) till graduation.

Most dentists I know (sister included) work less than 40 hrs, never on call (seriously ~ NEVER), own their practice, and are pretty content with their life-style to income ratio.

The biggest advantage of dentistry tho, is that its a business oriented field (yes you have to have customer service skills, you gotta be a good "seller" too, and strong business I.Q). If you have those 3, you will be a very wealthy dentist (I can almost assure you, you will take-home above 300k a year)...... On the other hand, if you hate socializing, hate convincing a pt to get a $800 root-canal treatment instead of a $80 extraction (cause they can't "afford" it even though they pulled up in a brand new Escalade), then chances are, you'd hate this field and you won't make much $$$

Which would be considered to be harder?
Who the hell knows.... Year 1 and 2 in DS sucks (I am just DS1, but I am looking at my DS2 friends right now, its brutal). They usually stay up in the sim-labs till about 8-9 PM about 3-4 days aweek WHILE still having to go home and study for quizzes the next day (some classes, the quizzes make up 70% of overall grade, so you can't blow them off lol)

one thing that (IMO) makes DS easier than medicine is.... well.... most of us don't end up specializing (I think only 20% of graduates specialize), the other 80% goes into "primary care" (general dentist).... this putts alot less pressure on the student to be top-rank, many just wanna pass and IMO, its relatively easy to pass DS.

Which has the better lifestyle?
If we are comparing primary care of dentistry vs medicine.....
without a doubt, dentistry 100%


Which makes more money?
If you have the right business skills, dentist, 100%.
My sister knows a few of her friends with offices that generate about 160-170k A MONTH :eek::eek::eek: They aren't even specialists, just good-ole-GPs.

Good luck finding a healthcare specialty where you only have 4 years of schools thats got that kinda potential. This is strictly a business-mentality driven field

Do Dentist pretty much have to own a practice to be successful?
Well, I think 70% of dentists are private practice owners so... yeh. But not all are successful, simply opening shop does not equate to success, I've heard alot of honor stories of people opening 1 million dollar practices, and running them like ****, and ending up with minus income lol (seriously, paying out of their pocket).

Chances of specializing in both fields?
There are REALLY 3 heavy hitters in dentistry (pretty competitive to get into)
1) ortho (everyone wants to be an orthodontist, seriously, even those whom say they don't wanna be orthodontists, STILL deep down inside wanna do it lol)
2) Oral Surgery (these guys are Kings... seriously, half of them are dual degree holders ~ DDS and MD)
3) Pediatric dentistry ~ yeh, its getting very hot last couple of years. They have CRAZY average salaries as just associates (well above 250k)

Which is more rewarding?
They are both bad-ass fields. Lol, the debate continues if dentists should be called "Dr." outside of the clinic..... HAHAHA yeh I brought this up, SUCK IT :smuggrin:!!!!!

No but seriously, rewarding in which way? like job satisfaction? Lets get something straight, a dentist fixing a tooth is not the same as the cardiothoracic surgeon who just had a transplant surgery okay haha.

But if your comparing primary care of both, I dunno, both seem rewarding, and sorta similar

Which has less stress?
Dentistry IMO

Any thoughts would be helpful.

-Thanks.
 
Dental, do you ever fear that your vertebral column may one day pertrude through your flesh either at the cervical area or the sacral area, do to the position you're in 90% of your day as a dentist? :smuggrin: Not srs though. But yah..

Honestly for me, I couldn't care if dentistry made good money. I don't think teeth are all that interesting and I don't think I'm a good enough craftsman to make crowns, fillings, and drill little holes in peoples mouths.
 
Dental, do you ever fear that your vertebral column may one day pertrude through your flesh either at the cervical area or the sacral area, do to the position you're in 90% of your day as a dentist? :smuggrin: Not srs though. But yah..

Honestly for me, I couldn't care if dentistry made good money. I don't think teeth are all that interesting and I don't think I'm a good enough craftsman to make crowns, fillings, and drill little holes in peoples mouths.

There are a lot of good ergonomic techniques that SHOULD be followed in this profession, those whom follow them, tend to have 40+ year careers

bad ergonomics is one reason why dentists usually lower their working hours as they age. A 30 year old dentist works more hours than 40 year old, same comparison applies between 40 and 50 year old and so on.

In general tho, most dentists I am familiar with work 4 days a week, on 35 hrs.... The main difference between dentists tho is..... some of those "35-hour'ers" make 500k a year, others barely touch 200k.
 
It's true. Thanks to demh23 I finally realized what a jerk I am for being blunt in an online forum. Also that I something something.. I honestly didn't really read his reply, but it was something along those lines.

Then I must be the biggest douchebag of them all...
 
How about a dentist's lifestyle vs that of a Allergist or a sports medicine specialized physician??
 
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Do what makes you happy and don't worry about the "more respect as a doctor vs dentist" thing--that's big in the pre-med world but it's all but gone once you graduate. Once you graduate you realize you're not some superpowered "doctor" you're a dentist/physician/internist/cardiologist/pediatrician/nurse practicioner with skills doing a job the best you can at the end of the day. I work in hospitals and we docs refer back and forth to one another all day. I have found my physician collegues see me for their own oral health care and I've certainly needed them at times. In fact I work with some awesome NPs, RNs and PTs who I deeply respect too. We all don't do the same thing and we value role the other services provide in the hospital setting.

I am a practicing general dentist who has been out of school 5 years and I like dentistry. It's a cool little profession. I love the combination of medicine and rebuilding the dentition. I have worked mostly in hospitals (chairside and ER) and urban public health clinics but some private practice too. I do a fair amount of oral surgery (3rd molars, pre-prosthetic aveolar bone removal, etc,) and I like working with my hands. The two most rewarding things I do are rebuilding a broken front tooth and getting people out of pain through extractions or root canal therapy. Oh, another great thing is to get to know your patients over the course of 6-10 visits to rehab a mouth and then every 6 months or so for cleanings and check ups. Most salaries start in the 130-150 range in my area of dentistry but we also get lots of benefits and loan repayment. As you get into director positions you should expect 160-185 plus benefits.

Private practice ownership is where the bigger money is but you have to be likeable and like people. You also must smart about encouraging your patients to make an investment in their teeth or gums. This is because "dental insurance" really isn't insurance but a limited coverage plan. It pays very little benefit in dentistry and so out of pocket costs to patients are significant. This is a key business difference between a physician career and that of a private practice dentist. If you're going to go into private practice you must educate and get patients to value their oral health and sometimes pay hundreds of dollars to stop their periodontitis or crown a fractured tooth. Also, you have to keep your practice overhead at a reasonable level. You need to be decent in business. I know dentists who own practices that make 400 on 32hrs/wk and others who make 150 on 40/week.
 
Do you want to work inside people's mouths all day? If you like teeth, be a dentist. People make it way harder than it needs to be.
 
Allow me to provide some perspective.

I am a DO cardiovascular surgeon 2 years out of residency/fellowship. I currently pull in over 700K working roughly 60 hrs/week with 1 weekend call/month with my private practice (partners pull in over 1mil/yr). This is not including any other investments (real estate, etc.) of mine. More importantly, I have time for my wife and kids. I perform literally life-saving procedures daily; you have no idea how incredibly rewarding it is to solving complex medical problems and performing open heart surgery, for instance, then meet the grateful patient and their loved ones postop. There is simply no comparison between what I do and what dentists do.

And fyi, there is no DO stigma in the real world. If you're good, you're good. Plus the MDs/DO residency/fellowship programs are all merging so we all get trained under the same standards. Food for thought. Cheers.
 
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Allow me to provide some perspective.

I am a DO cardiovascular surgeon 2 years out of residency/fellowship. I currently pull in over 700K working roughly 60 hrs/week with 1 weekend call/month with my private practice (partners pull in over 1mil/yr). This is not including any other investments (real estate, etc.) of mine. More importantly, I have time for my wife and kids. I perform literally life-saving procedures daily; you have no idea how incredibly rewarding it is to solving complex medical problems and performing open heart surgery, for instance, then meet the grateful patient and their loved ones postop. There is simply no comparison between what I do and what dentists do.

And fyi, there is no DO stigma in the real world. If you're good, you're good. Plus the MDs/DO residency/fellowship programs are all merging so we all get trained under the same standards. Food for thought. Cheers.

WTF? THEY LET DO'S OPERATE?
 
Allow me to provide some perspective.

I am a DO cardiovascular surgeon 2 years out of residency/fellowship. I currently pull in over 700K working roughly 60 hrs/week with 1 weekend call/month with my private practice (partners pull in over 1mil/yr). This is not including any other investments (real estate, etc.) of mine. More importantly, I have time for my wife and kids. I perform literally life-saving procedures daily; you have no idea how incredibly rewarding it is to solving complex medical problems and performing open heart surgery, for instance, then meet the grateful patient and their loved ones postop. There is simply no comparison between what I do and what dentists do.

And fyi, there is no DO stigma in the real world. If you're good, you're good. Plus the MDs/DO residency/fellowship programs are all merging so we all get trained under the same standards. Food for thought. Cheers.

Umm ok?
 
WTF? THEY LET DO'S OPERATE?

Why yes, DO's do everything, and I mean Everything, a MD does plus offer OMM (distinguishing us from MDs) which patients love. Which is why they are merging all residency/fellowship programs under one umbrella organization for both DOs and MDs. At the end of the day, nobody gives a ****, except ignorant students. We do what we love, and make tons of money haha.
 
Why yes, DO's do everything, and I mean Everything, a MD does plus offer OMM (distinguishing us from MDs) which patients love. Which is why they are merging all residency/fellowship programs under one umbrella organization for both DOs and MDs. At the end of the day, nobody gives a ****, except ignorant students. We do what we love, and make tons of money haha.

Wait, they're merging the residencies so MD's can learn OMM?
 
Wait, they're merging the residencies so MD's can learn OMM?

Well, I know there are strictly OMM residencies, which can be quite lucrative careers. Perhaps with the merger, MDs can get in on the action. Have heard of some colleagues making 200K+ doing only OMM in the privacy of their homes.

Here's some advice, med student. It is all about the patient-doctor relationship for a successful business. Patients must like you, and OMM, knowledge of anatomy to manipulate to provide some fast relief, is simply another weapon in your arsenal. That way, less chance of being sued and your business prospers. Not only have I been asked by patients, but MD colleagues, nurses, PAs, etc. have all asked for OMM. It does get a bit tiresome being so damn popular hah. Good luck. Remember, the well-being of your patients is most important.
 
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