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UNT(fort worth), Unecome(maine), Nova(florida), umdnj, msu(lansing,mi), azcom(glendale,az), azsu(mesa,az). I mean please tell me how these schools differ in categories other than the price and location? Also, I've never been west of new jersey except for a short stay in los angeles. I think that based on geography I would prefer unecom because it has a beach and u can ski(xcountry) in the winter. And Nova-you can swim all year long. Are women better looking in dallas, ft lauderdale, or arizona? Also ive been in florida lately and i was thinking of picking up roller blading as a hobby.

I have the following specific questions:
1) what is a typical daily schedule? (by this i mean that whether you listen to a lecture at home or show up to class, you still count it, i know that some schools have more lecture hours than others).
2) how much time off do you have to study for step1?

i can't think of any other questions that would differentiate between the schools. I plan to submit my amcas and aacos tonight.
 
unt (ft. worth) is has another application system (tmdsas), so you would have to fill out another application service, similar to aacomas. It is also very selective for in-state it only accepts 10% out of state.
 
time2go said:
unt (ft. worth) is has another application system (tmdsas), so you would have to fill out another application service, similar to aacomas. It is also very selective for in-state it only accepts 10% out of state.
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Thank you. So i take that off my list. I am definitely applying to unecome and nova. How about the 2 arizona schools? Anything interesting about them? And MSU?
 
i was interviewed and accepted at nova and azcom, i chose azcom because i felt more comfortable there while interviewing. both schools were great, just chose azcom for something i cant really explain. Really its the best school for you. good luck
 
chinagal said:
i was interviewed and accepted at nova and azcom, i chose azcom because i felt more comfortable there while interviewing. both schools were great, just chose azcom for something i cant really explain. Really its the best school for you. good luck
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actually i have removed arizona schools from my list. florida is terribly hot, but arizona makes florida look temperate. 110degrees! and there is no ocean! i wonder if students at msu or umdnj would be paying out-of-state tuition if they are in national guard(but applied to school as outofstaters)?

also another plus for nova: they allow research fellowships in 3rd year, which allow u obviously to do research, get paid, and 3rd and 4th yr free. and in addition, you have that whole year to become more mature(to take a break from med school), to better decide what specialty to go into. i wonder if any of the other schools offer that?
 
I would check to see those schools 3rd and 4th year schedule. See when you are allowed electives (some schools don't give them 3rd year) and if they require any specific rotations like rural medicine (I know
NOVA has this, but it can also be an underserved area not just rural).

In the osteopathic forum one of the stickies is a questionaire filled out by current students I know there is one for UNECOM.

Also in the osteopathic forum there is a thread about the pro/cons of each school (most if not all) it is pretty long but filled with a lot of info. I would look there!
 
the heat in arizona is not that bad, yes it does get to 110 but thats only during the summer (while you are not there) and it is dry heat. Humidity makes 90 degree heat horrible, but the ocean is nice to cool off in. Also AZCOM offers the free 3rd and fourth years for omm fellows (which is what i think you are talking about)
 
Thank you all. I've decided to rank the towns in which the schools are located based on the women:
azcom>>nova>>>>>msu>pcom>umdnj>unecom
Either way women are not my priority right now. I am here to study. And I think the climate in arizona is just too harsh.

MSU is $60k/yr for out-of-staters. I would consider military(hpsp), but with a cheaper school like nova it's still possible to consider other options, especially since it allows research fellowships.

So my new list is: nova,unecom,umdnj,pcom.
 
I really wish MSU didn't have such high OOS tuition. If you do the OMM fellowship for tuition assistance, does that mean you couldn't do another residency?
 
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I really wish MSU didn't have such high OOS tuition. If you do the OMM fellowship for tuition assistance, does that mean you couldn't do another residency?
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I believe OMM fellowship is just a 1yr of research and/or teaching in this discipline. Only after that you start to do your 3rd yr clinicals and then do the residency. So I would treat OMM no different from taking a year off to do biology research (except the subject is different).
 
stud247 said:
Thank you all. I've decided to rank the towns in which the schools are located based on the women:
azcom>>nova>>>>>msu>pcom>umdnj>unecom
Either way women are not my priority right now. I am here to study. And I think the climate in arizona is just too harsh.

MSU is $60k/yr for out-of-staters. I would consider military(hpsp), but with a cheaper school like nova it's still possible to consider other options, especially since it allows research fellowships.

So my new list is: nova,unecom,umdnj,pcom.
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I LOL'ed.

Seriously? This is going through your mind while thinking about which medical school you would like to go to? I would apply to all those and first see if you get an interview. No point in comparing schools if they don't even want to interview you. Medical school chooses you. You don't choose medical schoool. People say apply broadly for a reason.

Now if you got accepted to those school, different story.

Okay. Now, I'm going to UMDNJ and I absolutely loved the program and campus. And even if you are out of state, it is really easy to get in-state status. So compared to alot of other schools, UMDNJ is REALLY cheap (23K tuition). Plus, it has its own training hospital located right across the street, with LOTS of AOA residencies, so that's a def plus. I got an interview invite from NYCOM after I received my acceptance from UMDNJ, but turned it down because I knew UMDNJ is where I wanted to go.

Hope that helps.
 
elftown said:
i'm adding azcom to my list. i was there last summer for a geology trip. the heat wasn't too bad. i heard at unecom you need to have all the prereqs complete before applying. if i remember, i'm going to call them tomorrow. anyone heard about this?

btw i'm also from nj. my list is: pcom, umdnj, nycom, nova, azcom
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Someone said that UNECOM is changing that policy for this years application cycle; however, I would still call to confirm this and then let us know.
 
stud247 said:
Thank you all. I've decided to rank the towns in which the schools are located based on the women:
azcom>>nova>>>>>msu>pcom>umdnj>unecom
Either way women are not my priority right now. I am here to study. And I think the climate in arizona is just too harsh.
So my new list is: nova,unecom,umdnj,pcom.
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Wow, normally I try not to be mean but seriously... how immature are you? Ranking a school on women, especially medical school... PUHLEASE...

You do realize that this is highly competitive...? you do realize that less than half of all applicants actually get accepted nation wide....? You do realize that most applicants are just praying they get in, and could care less what "the women" look like near their school... You do realize that lasting, mature, fulfilling relationships have many more aspects than physical attraction? And you do realize that any woman worth being in a relationship with is going to see right through you?

Gross...
 
danimjo said:
Wow, normally I try not to be mean but seriously... how immature are you? Ranking a school on women, especially medical school... PUHLEASE...

You do realize that this is highly competitive...? you do realize that less than half of all applicants actually get accepted nation wide....? You do realize that most applicants are just praying they get in, and could care less what "the women" look like near their school... You do realize that lasting, mature, fulfilling relationships have many more aspects than physical attraction? And you do realize that any woman worth being in a relationship with is going to see right through you?

Gross...
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It's not gross its reality,, a lot of men are like this. im not one of them but i know many of them like that are. Women are always on the mind. Although I have to say, picking which schools to apply to based on woman is pretty shallow yet so creative. I would not bash the man he should be respected. How many people on here start threads stating they are going to be picking schools based on the women in the area? Not many, its all about reputation, residency placement, board scores, location, housing, area 3rd and 4th year rotations and I'm sick of it. People its time we start choosing schools on what the chances are that we will be having sex with more attractive women(or women will be havinig sex with more attractive men, im no sexist women have needs too). Good Luck to you OP I would simply go with what the male/female ratio is. I heard going through the navy is your best bet.
 
danimjo said:
Wow, normally I try not to be mean but seriously... how immature are you? Ranking a school on women, especially medical school... PUHLEASE...
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And yet, your avatar is of a woman in a bikini???? What gives there????
 
doc2010 said:
And yet, your avatar is of a woman in a bikini???? What gives there????
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So my avatar might be a naive choice, but it's a picture of me, on vacation... that happens to bring back relaxing memories... It's a nice reminder b/c usually when I'm on SDN I'm stressing about something, but you're right... if there are creeps like this around I should change it ASAP!
 
danimjo said:
So my avatar might be a naive choice, but it's a picture of me, on vacation... that happens to bring back relaxing memories... It's a nice reminder b/c usually when I'm on SDN I'm stressing about something, but you're right... if there are creeps like this around I should change it ASAP!
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if that is the case, how you doin???
 
danimjo said:
So my avatar might be a naive choice, but it's a picture of me, on vacation... that happens to bring back relaxing memories... It's a nice reminder b/c usually when I'm on SDN I'm stressing about something, but you're right... if there are creeps like this around I should change it ASAP!
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haha u actually changed it!
 
elftown said:
i'm adding azcom to my list. i was there last summer for a geology trip. the heat wasn't too bad. i heard at unecom you need to have all the prereqs complete before applying. if i remember, i'm going to call them tomorrow. anyone heard about this?

btw i'm also from nj. my list is: pcom, umdnj, nycom, nova, azcom
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Hey, regarding NYCOM. I read a very convincing post on the pros/cons thread from 2005. It convinced me not to apply there. I did not read anything so bad about any of the other schools.

I read that azcom is more competitive than some of the other schools that I listed. So if they don't interview me, I doubt the others will. I might be interested living in the west some day. But that would be Utah or Colorado. Arizona is just so different. Some people think that climate is not important and are ready to go live in Boston even if they are used to Arizona, but I know I would not be able to study among cacti and scorpions.
 
danimjo said:
Wow, normally I try not to be mean but seriously... how immature are you? Ranking a school on women, especially medical school... PUHLEASE...

You do realize that this is highly competitive...? you do realize that less than half of all applicants actually get accepted nation wide....? You do realize that most applicants are just praying they get in, and could care less what "the women" look like near their school... You do realize that lasting, mature, fulfilling relationships have many more aspects than physical attraction? And you do realize that any woman worth being in a relationship with is going to see right through you?

Gross...
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First of all, your reading comprehension is atrocious. I think I made it clear that while I consider Arizona women to be tops, I would not be excited about attending a school in Arizona. It may be very immature, but my priority includes all the culture/geography/etc that is unique to the location of the school. I figure I might or might not have a woman anywhere I go to study but if I do not have a woman and have nothing else to keep me excited, then it's just difficult to survive. If i am stuck in my room with an air conditioner 24/7, it's very hard to get any studying done because I must exercise and go to the beach to keep me going.

I also drove crosscountry this weekend. So I did a lot of thinking and decided that I am only interested in 1 specialty and it happens to be not very competitive. If I were very interested in something else, like Ortho, I would think very long and hard about applying to DO in general. Your chances of ending up in Ortho or Plastics are ~0 after DO. But in my specialty, you only need to do well on step1 and get the most out of the education that you are offered.

And regarding women: I did see your avatar before you changed it. I thought you were all right, but I never interacted with you. Meanwhile you called me a creep in this thread. Guess what, maybe in med school you are something special and you can earn attention with a 10kb avatar. But outside of med school it's a different story.

Back on topic: I saw the hottest girl in Emporia,Va yesterday at high noon!
 
SOMA is really different from most, if not all, medical schools in the country.

It's not PBL but it's not lecture format either. It's more of a hybrid.
Basically, you will learn about 120 different ways a patient can present to a physician, and from there you learn the science and whatnot behind it. It is systems based.

Only one year is spent in class with the following three years spent at a community health center somewhere else in the country ranging from Hawaii to New York.

I hear rotations are all mostly integrated into each other, rather than having separate sections for each rotation. I've only started first year here at SOMA so things aren't completely clear yet.

BTW, the school has a large emphasis on practicing in underserved areas.
 
thanecyan said:
SOMA is really different from most, if not all, medical schools in the country.

It's not PBL but it's not lecture format either. It's more of a hybrid.
Basically, you will learn about 120 different ways a patient can present to a physician, and from there you learn the science and whatnot behind it. It is systems based.

Only one year is spent in class with the following three years spent at a community health center somewhere else in the country ranging from Hawaii to New York.

I hear rotations are all mostly integrated into each other, rather than having separate sections for each rotation. I've only started first year here at SOMA so things aren't completely clear yet.

BTW, the school has a large emphasis on practicing in underserved areas.
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Sounds interesting, but I want to be safe and do something standard. While I would be eager to take electives at away sites, I would prefer to have an option to spend 2yrs at the same hospital or at least within the same region. And the first 2 years should be designed to prep you for step1 or whatever exam DO schools take in addition.
 
stud247 said:
Hey, regarding NYCOM. I read a very convincing post on the pros/cons thread from 2005. It convinced me not to apply there. I did not read anything so bad about any of the other schools.

I read that azcom is more competitive than some of the other schools that I listed. So if they don't interview me, I doubt the others will. I might be interested living in the west some day. But that would be Utah or Colorado. Arizona is just so different. Some people think that climate is not important and are ready to go live in Boston even if they are used to Arizona, but I know I would not be able to study among cacti and scorpions.
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Do yourself a favor and don't place much significance in a post that is four years old. I know the post you're talking about since it got me worried at one point, too, but after speaking with some current students, I realized that the post was just made by a disgruntled student, which you'll find in any given school. NYCOM is a great school with a lot of connections in the northeast, and there are definitely valid complaints that could be made on it, but it by no means is a worse school than any other.
 
stud247 said:
Your chances of ending up in Ortho or Plastics are ~0 after DO. But in my specialty, you only need to do well on step1 and get the most out of the education that you are offered.

And regarding women: I did see your avatar before you changed it. I thought y
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Huh? That's strange....you might want to mention that to at least the 10-15 ppl that matched into Ortho this year from my school alone which is like the biggest primary care school in the mix.
 
Octagonecology said:
Huh? That's strange....you might want to mention that to at least the 10-15 ppl that matched into Ortho this year from my school alone which is like the biggest primary care school in the mix.
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Is it me, or are a lot of threads recently just spreading tremendous misinformation about DOs?
 
Semicolon said:
Do yourself a favor and don't place much significance in a post that is four years old. I know the post you're talking about since it got me worried at one point, too, but after speaking with some current students, I realized that the post was just made by a disgruntled student, which you'll find in any given school. NYCOM is a great school with a lot of connections in the northeast, and there are definitely valid complaints that could be made on it, but it by no means is a worse school than any other.
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I still found that post to be very convincing. No one contradicted these points:
1) it has the highest number of dropouts out of any schools.
2) they give away answers to some exam questions and students still fail exams (how are you going to do on step1 with this?).

he did mentioned that nycom has a neuromuscular research fellowship program. that would be good if not for the 2 points above.
 
hopefuldoc87 said:
Is it me, or are a lot of threads recently just spreading tremendous misinformation about DOs?
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It doesn't matter if my information is correct or not. My point is that I am pursuing a non-competitive specialty. I am not hurting myself by considering things like geography. With a competitive specialty you are really hurting yourself by going DO.
 
stud247 said:
It doesn't matter if my information is correct or not. My point is that I am pursuing a non-competitive specialty. I am not hurting myself by considering things like geography. With a competitive specialty you are really hurting yourself by going DO.
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Look at the match lists. Although you may not be going into a competitive specialty, many people use these forums for information. So it does matter that your information is correct.
 
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