PM&R and procedures

[normalforce]

If I do PM&R and I have a practice with a significant amount of outpatient procedures such as cervical and lumbar epidurals and other injections and EMGs, how much can I make a year. (please provide a range like $200,000 - $250,000).

Thank you.

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[tempperson]

Honestly, I think this is part of what makes the field so confusing. Its really hard to get definitive numbers on how much one should expect to make. For instance, I'm interested in pain medicine, and i've asked a bunch of pmr residents how much pain specialist make. I've gotten replies anywhere from 150-300 K, which is a huge difference. People have cited salary.com figures, but i think you have to take those with a grain of salt. Those figures are averaged over the entire US, some of the docs live in underserved areas and i'm sure are making insane amounts of $$.

What I've asked before was what do PMR docs make in a major metropolitan area such as LA or SF, if they decide to work for a hospital or join a group. For general PMR, I think the figure is realistically in the $120-140 K range starting, and many HMO's don't increase much over the years. anyone else care to comment?

 

[Finally M3]

I was told on my Ohio State interview that 3 years out from residency, if you aren't making > $225K, you're doing something wrong. However, this is a program were they train you to do TONS of EMGs, FWIW.

My father told me that in SE Michigan, a new grad can expect to make $130-$150K, depending on the type of practice and interventional exp. However, this is a crowded job market (4 programs). He didn't have any info on what a newly minted pain fellow would be making.

 

[DigableCat]

A guy from my program just completed his Pain Fellowship this year.

He was offered a spot in Southeast for >300,000K.

What a difference a year makes.

And some of the people from my program that are not doing fellowships are getting offers which average 130-150K with incentive/bonuses. Of course you can make more...moving to a small area where you are really needed, OR you can make much less, say if you want to live in NYC, Boston, Los Angeles, or San Francisco. It's all about supply/demand and how hard you are willing to work(read: bill).

Anyway, 130K in some parts of Texas, easily dwarf 200K in NYC, so it's all relative.

 

[tempperson]

>300 K in southeast doesn't surprise me at all. Many job offers in underserved or less metropolitan areas pay a lot. I bet you could find a few offers of 300 K even without the pain fellowship, if they are located in less popular locations.

Does anyone know anything about pain medicine in california? just curious.