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CMS Proceeds with Anti-Markup Rule for Pathology
The Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services announced Dec. 28 a one-year delay in the implementation of the anti-markup rule, though declined, however, to delay the rule for pathology services.

The anti-markup rule applies to both the professional and technical component of anatomic pathology services, effective Jan. 1, 2008. CMS is delaying implementation of the anti-markup rule until Jan. 1, 2009 for other diagnostic testing services, stating it would further study the issue and consider a new rulemaking for non-pathology diagnostic testing services.

The announcement was published in the Jan. 3 Federal Register.

The College of American Pathologists previously published a detailed analysis of the anti-markup rule, which prevents an ordering physician from charging Medicare more than the net charge paid to a pathologist or other laboratory supplier for the pathology service if the service is performed outside of the office of the billing physician.

Following publication of the anti-markup rule as part of the final 2008 Physician Fee Schedule, the American Medical Association and other specialty medical organizations urged CMS to delay implementation. The AMA cited concerns for uncertainty in the rule and whether certain locations would meet the definition of the “office of the billing physician.”

The College organized a coalition of pathology and laboratory medicine organizations to oppose the delay and asked for immediate implementation to end abusive pod lab arrangements under Medicare. CMS agreed with the College and decided to proceed with the anti-markup rule to stop pod labs billing Medicare.

CMS stated in its announcement that “anatomic pathology arrangements precipitated our proposal for revision of the anti-markup provisions and remain our core concern.”

The anti-markup rule is effective for anatomic pathology services if the physician group is billing for services performed in a “centralized building,” and the location does not meet the definition of the “same building,” as both are defined in the Stark regulations.

Pod labs are defined by CMS as offsite from a physician office and must meet the definition of a “centralized building” to be compliant with the Stark Law. An in-office lab is likely to meet the definition of the "same building" and will not be subject to the Medicare anti-markup rule.

CMS remains committed to considering additional changes to the Stark regulations to stop other types of abusive contractual joint ventures. A proposed rule is expected in 2008.

The College advocates for changes to the in-office ancillary services exception to the Stark Law to prevent referring physicians from profiting from pathology services, regardless of whether the service is performed offsite or in-office. CAP will keep members informed of updates in future issues of Statline.
 
I saw this, trying to figure out what it means for pod labs in reality. My initial impression was that it won't make much difference, because sleaze always finds a way. But I will have to read more into it. I kind of thought one of the purposes of pod labs was that they were sort of "inside the office" of the billing physician. But I guess not.
 
can someone please explain that.

What I want to hear is that gastros/dermos and all can't make **** off pathology, professional or technical. Is that what it says?
 
Well, I think derms still can if it is in the same office, which it probably is if they are reading their own slides. But it seems to mean gastros and uros can't do it anymore. But like I said, sleaze always finds a way.
 
From my understanding, pod labs work as labs that charge the patients for the studies (i.e. labs) but they don't perform them. They usually send them to a reference lab. In the process, they over charge the patient and keep the difference between what the reference lab charges them and what the patient actually pays.

In the other hand, physician GI and GU labs work by self-referral. I think the term for this are mills (Not all mills are owned by physicians they can also be a lab that only specializes in one organ). The CAP is working on that too. Both practices are bad for pathologist.

The first one prevents small labs from competing with larger labs and discourages physicians from sending labs to smaller, more expensive labs.

The second one is more obvious. The clinician keeps your money and only pays someone a small fee. It also raises a lot of ethical issues (12 prostate biopsies vs 6, 5 gastric biopsies vs 3, calling everything asap, etc)

The best source of information about these topics is CAP today. They usually have a good article one the subject every month
 
From my understanding, pod labs work as labs that charge the patients for the studies (i.e. labs) but they don't perform them. They usually send them to a reference lab. In the process, they over charge the patient and keep the difference between what the reference lab charges them and what the patient actually pays.

In the other hand, physician GI and GU labs work by self-referral. I think the term for this are mills (Not all mills are owned by physicians they can also be a lab that only specializes in one organ). The CAP is working on that too. Both practices are bad for pathologist.

The first one prevents small labs from competing with larger labs and discourages physicians from sending labs to smaller, more expensive labs.

The second one is more obvious. The clinician keeps your money and only pays someone a small fee. It also raises a lot of ethical issues (12 prostate biopsies vs 6, 5 gastric biopsies vs 3, calling everything asap, etc)

The best source of information about these topics is CAP today. They usually have a good article one the subject every month

That's not the way I understand it. I think POD labs refer to clinician owned labs where the Gastro or Urologist has their own lab where they self refer to and hire a pathologist as an employee to read the slides. They bill patient directly as an "ancillary test". This way they are able to capture the revenue that is gained by the biopsies while paying the pathologist who reads the cases pennys on the dollar. A PATH-MILL is a place like Ameripath and the like who are corporations and hire pathologists to read profitable biopsies such as skin, gi and gu. The companies use marketing strategies to get Urologists, Derms, and Gastros to send them their biopsies. Not sure about whether kickbacks occur, but I assume they would be prohibited. Please corect me if I'm wrong.
 
Cool. Then I guess I have the terms confused. Is it POD lab only applied when it is done for the AP service? What would be the term when they overcharge for the labs and send them somewhere else? Wouldn't it be a pod if they billed for it as an ancillary test?

Most Mills that I knew of were run by a GU group or a Heme/onc group that hired a pathologist to look at their specimens.In these places the groups owned the histo lab and keep the TC component. I guess that in those cases they would qualify for mill and pod lab too?
 
Ale, I think what you are describing are pod labs (labs where urologist/GI/whatever groups own the histo lab and keep the TC). I think the reason they are referred to as "pod" labs is that the same pathologist and lab runs what are considered "multiple" labs for multiple different groups. But in fact they are the same lab, they are only different technically, because there may be multiple rooms.

One way to think of "path mills" is kind of what the term refers to. Traditionally, mills were places (the ones I know of were in the cities on the merrimack river in northern massachusetts in the early 1900s) where workers were driven hard and given few benefits, and what measley benefits they did get were from producing more. These mills were part of the reason labor unions were started. Obviously, path "mills" are not quite that bad, but the concept is similar - a boss sits in an office and hires pathologists to get through as many cases as they can. They would of course immediately add, "with excellent quality." But in truth a lot of these jobs are not as desirable for the better candidates.

Some info
http://www.pathologyoutlines.com/management/ness200503.html
http://www.clinical-labs.org/issues/condo/index.shtml

quoted from the second one - As you may see, pod labs are not the same as intra-office physician pathology practices (like what some dermatologists do)
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The first type of arrangement involves joint venture or "turnkey" arrangements between referring physicians and pathologists (referred to as "Pod" laboratories). A "manager" leases space in a medical building and subdivides the space into separate cubicles, which are equipped with microscopes and other equipment needed for a histology laboratory. The manager then subleases each cubicle to a group practice, identifies a pathologist who will supervise the cubicle-laboratories and perform the professional component ("PC") of the pathology service, and hires the histotechnologist who performs the technical component ("TC") of the service. In order to appear to be meeting applicable exceptions to the federal selfreferral law, the pathologist and histotech are required to move from cubicle-to-cubicle as they review each group practice's slides. Each group practice pays the pathologist a discounted fee for every slide reviewed and pays the manager a management fee, which covers the lease costs and histotech salaries. The group then bills for the entire pathology service.
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Sleaze!
 
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