podiatry?

[masmaha1234]

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How come podiatrists do not earn an md or do even though they prescribe medication and perform surgery?

 

[Buster Douglas]

How come podiatrists do not earn an md or do even though they prescribe medication and perform surgery?

same reason dentists don't...

 

[kappasigMD41]

At the risk of sounding very obvious, it is because they are not MD's or DO's. Do you think they should randomly be given those titles just because they are podiatrists? I think I'm a little confused by your question.

 

[skypilot]

They do get a D.P.M. though which allows you to call them doc.

🙂

 

[fun8stuff]

How come podiatrists do not earn an md or do even though they prescribe medication and perform surgery?

They don't go to medical school. They go to podietry school, just as dentists go to dental school, chiropractors go to chiropractic school, PAs go to PA school, etc... the difference is in the training.

 

[krabmas]

If it helps at all...

I am in podiatry school and we take different boards than med students, take similar but different classes in different schools, and are liscensed to treat only certain body parts and liscensed by a different board than MDs.

Our program is 4 years of school that mirrors med school and then at least 2 years of residency but most people try to do 3.

We still take full body anatomy and dissect a cadaver. But our anatomy is split into 2 semesters one semester for above the hips and another semester for below the hips.

The detail that the med students learn the upper extremity the pod students learn the lower extremity. I don't know about all med schools but from the few I've heard about they barely go into the foot in the cadavers. By the time the semester is over for lower extremity we've disected the foot down to the joints going thru the 7 layers of fascia, vessels, and muscles on the dorsum of the foot and the 4 muscle layers of the plantar foot.

It's like specializing before residency.

 

[JMD]

So, when exactly did the foot become the realm of the "non-MD" profession. As Krabmas mentioned, during gross we barely even looked at the foot. There are MD hand surgeons as well as other specialized areas, why not the foot.

I am not saying that I don't think podiatrists should exist, just curious how/when this part of the body stemmed into a new profession.

 

[krabmas]

In ohio and at least one other state podiatrists can operate on the hand as well.

This is not meant to be rude or confrontational but... how many MD foot surgeons do you know?

Most Orthopedists concentrate on the ankle and above. I am aware that there are some orthos that specialize on the foot but not many.

 

[krabmas]

So, when exactly did the foot become the realm of the "non-MD" profession. As Krabmas mentioned, during gross we barely even looked at the foot. There are MD hand surgeons as well as other specialized areas, why not the foot.

I am not saying that I don't think podiatrists should exist, just curious how/when this part of the body stemmed into a new profession.

I just re-read your post. If you were being sersious there is an actual history to podiatry. It started with Chiropitists that basically cut nails and corns and over time chiropody expanded into podiatry and the education changed as well to turn us into surgeons.

This website is full of info on the history of podiatry in the US, Australia, europe and england. The education is different in each place and so is the profession.
http://podiatry.curtin.edu.au/profess.html

 

[SaltySqueegee]

This thread is interesting... weird, but interesting.

Thanks

 

[krabmas]

This thread is interesting... weird, but interesting.

Thanks

😕 Why is it weird?

 

[velo]

In ohio and at least one other state podiatrists can operate on the hand as well.

This is not meant to be rude or confrontational but... how many MD foot surgeons do you know?

Most Orthopedists concentrate on the ankle and above. I am aware that there are some orthos that specialize on the foot but not many.

My step mom needed surgery on her foot a couple months ago. She first looked around for an MD that would do it and found that MD surgeons won't even touch the foot. Found a podiatrist and he did a fantastic job 👍


and yeah, we don't do the foot in that much detail in allo schools. We had one official day of dissection devoted to it, but we were also doing the knee that day and finishing up anything on the lower extremity that we hadn't hit yet. I pretty much ignored the foot...its hard to dissect and soooo low yield anyway 😀

 

[krabmas]

We spend an entire semester (june - november) 6 hours a week on the hip to the foot. It is split into 3rds.

1/3 hip to knee
1/3 knee to ankle and dorsal foot
1/3 plantar foot

And there are 3 - 4 labs solely for the plantar foot.

 

[krabmas]

My step mom needed surgery on her foot a couple months ago. She first looked around for an MD that would do it and found that MD surgeons won't even touch the foot. Found a podiatrist and he did a fantastic job 👍


and yeah, we don't do the foot in that much detail in allo schools. We had one official day of dissection devoted to it, but we were also doing the knee that day and finishing up anything on the lower extremity that we hadn't hit yet. I pretty much ignored the foot...its hard to dissect and soooo low yield anyway 😀

Totally off topic...

Are you a cyclist?

I am, although I have not riden as much as I would like since starting school and I live in NYC but in Queens not Manhattan so it makes it less convienient.

What kind of bike do you have? I love talking about cycling.

 

[velo]

Totally off topic...

Are you a cyclist?

I am, although I have not riden as much as I would like since starting school and I live in NYC but in Queens not Manhattan so it makes it less convienient.

What kind of bike do you have? I love talking about cycling.

oh yeah, i'm all about anything wth two wheels and no engine.

I raced road, mtb, and a little track all through ugrad....hopefully I'll still have time to race a little road over the summer...I've been too busy to ride much lately though 🙁

I've got a schwinn mountain bike that's not much to write home about, and a Colnago for the road...she's my baby 😀

 

[krabmas]

I have a cannondale R600 (my baby).

I used to just peddle to and from class at ugrad on a specialized hybrid. The first one was stolen, the second one was stolen, then I took my mom's old touring bike, a univega, from 1978ish back to school. It was great - no one would steal it.

I used the univega for 3 years til I moved to DC. I started looking for a new bike and all I wanted was a road bike and all I could find were racing bikes.

I ended up getting a used cannondale for free that was specially ordered part by part in the late 80's/early 90s... it was white with bright pink writing and a bright pink seat. I loved that bike until I crashed it into a bus. I was going 20 mph up hill and the bus was standing still in front of me. 😱
I don't recomend doing this.

I had to get a new bike so the search started again. This time not only did I want a road bike, but now I had fallen in love with cannondales.

So I bought the R600 - I love this bike. For the first few weeks as a proud owner I was still scared to ride since the crash so I just sat and starred at the bike. My roomate thought I was crazy. I still think the bike is so pretty.

I still have the univega at my parents house. My mom keeps asking if she can get rid of it since they are moving. I keep telling her no because one day it will be hanging on my wall. (she rode the bike the day before I was born) 😍

 

[DrBuzzLightYear]

How come podiatrists do not earn an md or do even though they prescribe medication and perform surgery?

podiatry has its origins in an alternative health theory which stipulated that most human ailments could be cured by tending to the feet. modern science has relagated them to wart removal.

 

[12R34Y]

now the above poster..........that's ignorant.

the 2 podiatrists I know specialized in ankle and hindfoot surgery and make lots of mula. hardly wart removal (they do that too).

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