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[DocEspana]

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Firstly. Get your shizz together people.

B. What did he image say? It didnt load on my phone.

In summation: if you want to make an image smaller just save it. Open it in paint. Then select stretch/skew and change the size either by percentage shrink or designating a pixel size. Then upload the image to anywhere (tinypic works well and be images stay hosted for weeks)

IV: avenge me
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[Dandelion18]

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Firstly. Get your shizz together people.

B. What did he image say? It didnt load on my phone.

In summation: if you want to make an image smaller just save it. Open it in paint. Then select stretch/skew and change the size either by percentage shrink or designating a pixel size. Then upload the image to anywhere (tinypic works well and be images stay hosted for weeks)

IV: avenge me
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Thanks! I've replaced the picture with words for now (It's a note from the wolves), but I'll get to work on getting the picture back up.

 

[nohika]

If you can, add dandelion to your PMs. If you forget, NBD.

Just got caught up at work. 😳

 

[LetItSnow]

Sigh. The wolves will kill someone in Normal or Bug tonight, we'll lynch the other, and their work of cutting of communication (other than whatever pokemon pairs are left) will be done. Excellent.

My bet on ordering them in terms of likelihood: SOV, WTF, Hedgie, Wildcat, Kakuru, SnS, Kaydubs.

 

[LetItSnow]

Sigh. The wolves will kill someone in Normal or Bug tonight, we'll lynch the other, and their work of cutting of communication (other than whatever pokemon pairs are left) will be done. Excellent.

My bet on ordering them in terms of likelihood: SOV, WTF, Hedgie, Wildcat, Kakuru, SnS, Kaydubs.

Weird. I must have chopped part of my message right before hitting Submit.

There should have been a paragraph in the middle noting that those are the people that voted for the last lynch, and that there's almost guaranteed one or two wolves in there.

Ser Dem- 8 (SnS, Kakuru, SOV, Hedgie, Kaydubs, Wildcat, WTF, Y)

 

[kaydubs]

This is a suspicious comment,
like the type a wolf has sent.

because who else thinks about PMs alot?
Just evil wolves who should be lynched and rot.

I haven't seen an item in days
since my bicycle was razed.

Haven't seen any items either. Sorry if it came across as wolfish - I wasn't sure if it had been mentioned to include Dandelion or not. I probably should have never asked seeing as I haven't had any items, making it a moot point.

Amused that I'm the grammar nazi in the write-up. It would be something snarky I'd say. Really scratching my head over all of this. 😕

 

[Packen]

Just getting a chance to check in real quick. It sucks that we lost pikachu (sp?) - I really hope that pikachu didn't have a valuable role.

Sigh. The wolves will kill someone in Normal or Bug tonight, we'll lynch the other, and their work of cutting of communication (other than whatever pokemon pairs are left) will be done. Excellent.

My bet on ordering them in terms of likelihood: SOV, WTF, Hedgie, Wildcat, Kakuru, SnS, Kaydubs.

I agree with the first list you posted LIS, and in that group I also agree that there is probably one or two wolves, that is not a far off conclusion. BUT, this ranking list is EXACTLY like a ranking list that you posted many moons ago in GOT. I only remember because I 100% trusted you (till the end) in that game and believed the list. The kicker was that you ranked the wolves at the end of your list last time - it was based on post counts if I remember correctly?

I guess my issue here is that I thought there was something odd about your posts right when you came back to life about how kaydub was absolutely good. And therefore you were too. To me, you just seemed really defensive, but IIRC, no one was really coming after you guys, they were just asking about it.

And I know I am picking on you right now, but I have a free minute to actually "play" the game here, and well, there is not much to go on. Not many people are posting, so it makes it really hard to pick up on things. But man, that list just screams to me of the list you posted in GOT

 

[Packen]

Oh mods, are you guys planning on having a lynch vote today too? I am probably not going to be around later, so was curious about your plans 🙂

 

[nohika]

Night Deadline will be 1pm EST. Just so everyone knows.

And yes, we're gonna try and have a lynch afterwards, but depending on how my work goes...we'll see.

 

[Packen]

I was swings match. She was the one that rezzed WTF. Apparently the mods have some heavy qualifiers on the rezzing. She said she tried her item on nearly everyone and all she was able to bring back was either WTF or Devyn. We weren't sure how Devyn would come back, so she picked WTF.

Ok, took me a while to find this, but I did - really I need to go study, but I was intrigued because of something LIS has been adamant about since his rez, and it was that kaydubs must be a villager b/c she brought him back and he claims to be a villager.

But WTF was brought back by a proven villager, who is now dead. Why the distrust of WTF LIS? She was second on your list. I am just curious and trying to get people to talk things through. I seriously believe this is how we can find our wolves. Everyone has been too quiet (sorry, myself included). I don't have anything good or negative against WTF. When she died the first time, she was a villager, she was brought back by a villager, I just don't see what you are seeing.

 

[Foxhunter]

Just got to work. Still drunk. Eating a chick-fil-a biscuit. This really sucks guys. I really think we have at least one, but maybe more experienced wolves...

 

[nohika]

Nights closed, results pending.

Give me a bit - I'm eating breakfast and closing Night at the same time.

 

[devyn]

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can't believe you killed my internet boyfriend! 😡 🙁 :cry::cry:

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[nohika]

This is extremely depressing, but does anyone know what night/day we're on? There was a mix-up in the spreadsheet and I can't figure out where we are. 😳

I /think/ this is night 9.

 

[nohika]

Everyone meets up at the courtyard after a long night's sleep. All the pokemon gasp in relief when they realize everyone is still present!

No one has died.

Tentative lynch deadline of 9:30pm EST, because that's about when I should be able to get online.

Edited to add: If you have not received a PM about your item, assume you kept it.

 

[StartingoverVet]

Weird. I must have chopped part of my message right before hitting Submit.

There should have been a paragraph in the middle noting that those are the people that voted for the last lynch, and that there's almost guaranteed one or two wolves in there.

Ser Dem- 8 (SnS, Kakuru, SOV, Hedgie, Kaydubs, Wildcat, WTF, Y)

Funny how 2 people can see the same event and have opposite conclusions.

With so few people voting there is no reason for wolves to gang up on any one player. They have been doing a great job of not sticking out, why would they join together in a bandwagon when 3 or 4 votes is all that is needed to lynch someone.

Is there a wolf in there? probably yes. but 1 out of 8 is no help statistically, and even 1 out of 4 is probably not better than random. I just can't see there being more than 2, if not only 1 in that list.

No, I think it is likely that the single votes that were NOT part of the bandwagon, or more likely those that do not vote at all contain more wolves.

I could easily see 1-2 out of LIS' list.
1 out of the singletons.
1-2 out of the remaining non-voters

So it seems 1 out of 4 is the best we are getting and that is not good enough.

 

[StartingoverVet]

I also think that we have enough evidence to say that elemental partners cannot be original wolves.

Since I think we are not doing much communicating (I certainly aren't given my lack of info), I think we would be well-served to disclose who our elemental partner is. This way the wolves will be forced either to lie (and may be caught), or more likely to use each other as elemental partners. Then once we nail one of the pair ... we get a twofer...

If y'all think communication is happening, then forget the idea... wouldn't want to interfere with that, but what I know personally, and have read, seems to indicate otherwise.

FYI... i decided to protect Packen last night on LIS' wolves are killing partner theory. I don't think that is why there were no kills though, because usually I am told if I have prevented an attack, and no word from the mods (although they have been slightly inconsistent)...

So something else happened last night....

Conversion? Or some other way an attack was prevented.

Unfortunately... I would guess conversion.

 

[Minnerbelle]

eff yeah! my week from hell is now officially over!!! so I am back until I either get killed, lynched, or win.

Funny how 2 people can see the same event and have opposite conclusions.

With so few people voting there is no reason for wolves to gang up on any one player. They have been doing a great job of not sticking out, why would they join together in a bandwagon when 3 or 4 votes is all that is needed to lynch someone.

I was thinking the saaaame exact thing. I was surprised that I was still alive this morning, and thought 'wow, this would be a great game for a wolf to be super quiet' because NO ONE IS TALKING. So I thought it was really weird that LIS would say that. When there's such a stigma for lynching quiet players, and there are so few talkative players this game, why would wolves start bandwagoning?

I also think that we have enough evidence to say that elemental partners cannot be original wolves.

Since I think we are not doing much communicating (I certainly aren't given my lack of info), I think we would be well-served to disclose who our elemental partner is. This way the wolves will be forced either to lie (and may be caught), or more likely to use each other as elemental partners. Then once we nail one of the pair ... we get a twofer...

I agree with the theory, but I'm not sure I agree with the methodology. I never found my elemental partner because I never even tried nor was ever contacted. So... there's still someone still out there for me (whoever is not paired up, PM the mods tonight plz and ask if you're my buddy) or that partner has already died or disappeared. You can lynch me to verify that i am indeed a villager if you'd like... but that's not going to get you anywhere.

But that's my point. What do we do if we have others who are still not "partnered up" or claim to be so. Or that they had a partner, but died? Do we start lynching those people before we start lynching pairs? Or do we start lynching supposed pairs who are likely to give us "two birds with one stone"? Either way, it ends up being random.

If we lynch wrong in a pair, we cut extra line of communication. If we lynch a wrong singleton, we get no extra info... Wolves could be in either group.

 

[LetItSnow]

I guess my issue here is that I thought there was something odd about your posts right when you came back to life about how kaydub was absolutely good.

I invite you to show me where I depicted kaydub's as "absolutely good."

The fact that you are misrepresenting my posts to make me look suspicious is pretty validating to the gut feeling I've had for a few lynches now....

lynch Packen

I posted the list because it's about all the thinking I have in this game right now: it seems to me there almost has to be a wolf in that list, and the ordering is purely my thoughts on how I'd order it. Nothing more, nothing less.

But the fact that you'd misrepresent what I said about kaydub is awfully suspicious. I was *very* careful to say that I did *NOT* know that she's a villager, merely that the fact that she rez'ed me puts her lower on my list than other people. I never came close to calling her "absolutely good." I can't think of any reason you'd twist my words other than being a wolf trying to throw suspicion my way.

 

[LetItSnow]

But WTF was brought back by a proven villager, who is now dead. Why the distrust of WTF LIS?

Not much more than gut feeling based on her posts. I don't have anything *SOLID* on anybody on that list. The ordering is purely my gut based on what I see people saying compared to how they normally play; it's basically the order I'd go about investigating them if I had that capability (I don't).

 

[LetItSnow]

Conversion? Or some other way an attack was prevented.

Unfortunately... I would guess conversion.

I'm hesitant to agree.

Per the mods, somebody was "hunting for [me]" last night. I was able to evade attack and "escaped."

So. I don't want to outright disagree with you, because it's not definitively clear they were hunting for me to KILL me (could have been coming to block, silence, whatever). But it's at least a reasonable possibility that there was no kill last night because I was the target.

Wolves: Keep trying!

 

[LetItSnow]

So I thought it was really weird that LIS would say that. When there's such a stigma for lynching quiet players, and there are so few talkative players this game, why would wolves start bandwagoning?

Eh. I suppose that could make sense. My thinking was that wolves are wolves: they hate not voting at all because that's suspicious, so they often try to take the 'safe' vote, which is the bandwagon because hey - everyone ELSE did it too.

If they vote a one-off, they either have to pull out the b.s. "RNG" defense or they have to try and explain their vote. Easier to just bandwagon, even when it's not strictly necessary to accomplish their immediate goals.

 

[wildcatj]

Eh. I suppose that could make sense. My thinking was that wolves are wolves: they hate not voting at all because that's suspicious, so they often try to take the 'safe' vote, which is the bandwagon because hey - everyone ELSE did it too.

If they vote a one-off, they either have to pull out the b.s. "RNG" defense or they have to try and explain their vote. Easier to just bandwagon, even when it's not strictly necessary to accomplish their immediate goals.

I'm not sure I always agree with that though. Especially in a game like this where we really don't have any good leads, it is just as easy for a wolf to vote for a "random" person. No one is really questioning votes unless they are really strange. I'm not saying there couldn't be a wolf (or two) in the bandwagon, just that I don't really agree with that logic when it comes to this game.

 

[shortnsweet]

I can't compete with SOV's mad rhyming skillz.
And I don't know what to make of these "no killz"

Now it is time to go out the door.
Margarita night. One, two, three, floor.

 

[nohika]

Official Lynch Tally

Packen - 1 (LIS)
kakurubird - 1 (W)
Foxhunter - 1 (X)

 

[nyanko]

I can't compete with SOV's mad rhyming skillz.
And I don't know what to make of these "no killz"

Um, either someone was protected or someone was converted, probably? I don't think it is that uncommon for there to be no kills in a night, especially since there are less players left so wolves and protectors/protective items are more likely to target the same people.

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

Not much more than gut feeling based on her posts. I don't have anything *SOLID* on anybody on that list. The ordering is purely my gut based on what I see people saying compared to how they normally play; it's basically the order I'd go about investigating them if I had that capability (I don't).

What? Dude. I have BARELY posted in the last few days, hell, I've barely posted this entire game. AND I've been sick.

 

[Packen]

The fact that you are misrepresenting my posts to make me look suspicious is pretty validating to the gut feeling I've had for a few lynches now....

lynch Packen

I posted the list because it's about all the thinking I have in this game right now: it seems to me there almost has to be a wolf in that list, and the ordering is purely my thoughts on how I'd order it. Nothing more, nothing less.

But the fact that you'd misrepresent what I said about kaydub is awfully suspicious. I was *very* careful to say that I did *NOT* know that she's a villager, merely that the fact that she rez'ed me puts her lower on my list than other people. I never came close to calling her "absolutely good." I can't think of any reason you'd twist my words other than being a wolf trying to throw suspicion my way.

I am not trying to misrepresent you to make you look suspicious (frankly the more you come after me, the more suspicious I am getting of you). Like I said I have not been following this game too well, especially these last few days. But in my notes I wrote back when you were brought back to life "stated multiple times trusts kaydubs - how does he know??" Sorry my WW notes are not up to par. I posted what I did from them.

And to be fair, you throwing this back in my face is an extremely wolfy move as well. I may not be the best player in this game so far, but I am trying to contribute. I didn't come out and vote to lynch you because I wanted to hear your side and give you a chance to explain. I know I am a villager, and a really cute pokemon at that. If need be I will say what my pokemon is, I don't think it really matters anyway since I don't have any powers or anything.

I can't shake the feeling of deja vu that you are playing me like you did in that other game. Right down to trying to lynch me.

lynch LIS

 

[Minnerbelle]

So I guess we can safely assume that there are exactly 4 anonymous voters in this game? We've only had voters WXY and Z no matter how many people we've lynched off or how many people have gone missing. If I read correctly also have a lynched (WTF) and disappeared (LIS) players that have come back and neither have said anything about these mysetery voters. So then what in the world is up with them?

And I'd also really like to know what the diff is between dying and disappearing is. WTF and LIS, what were you guys told when you died/disappeared? Anything that might help us distinguish between the two?

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

I was full-on lynched/died; didn't disappear. And have no clue as to the mystery voters, but I suspect they are the "disappeared" ones.

 

[LetItSnow]

And I'd also really like to know what the diff is between dying and disappearing is. WTF and LIS, what were you guys told when you died/disappeared? Anything that might help us distinguish between the two?

I was told absolutely nothing (as in, no PMs received) until I was brought back, which was characterized as a "revival" in my mod PM.

Packen, it's beyond me how you can not recognize that misstating my comments about kaydubs would make you look suspicious to me. Lynching me is a really big villager mistake.

The wolves have attacked me twice (if I assume last night was a wolf attack and not another villager). We - villagers - do not want me dead.

 

[LetItSnow]

So I was asking my son about Pokemon this morning. He mentioned Ash being good and Team Rocket being bad. I asked if individual pokemons were good/bad and he said it depended on who captured them.

So. What if the game was started with just one original wolf, and those original "disappearances" were simply Team Rocket 'captures' to build out the wolf team. I could easily see doing that as a mod. Sorta a "build your wolf team" mechanic.

Quite a while ago I tried to lynch one of the disappeared (DVMD). Purely because I wanted to test how really truly 'disappeared' they were. In retrospect, I'm not sure it's worth wasting an entire lynch to test what is probably a far-fetched theory, but..... *shrug* Something to talk about, I guess.

 

[DVMDream]

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[Minnerbelle]

So I was asking my son about Pokemon this morning. He mentioned Ash being good and Team Rocket being bad. I asked if individual pokemons were good/bad and he said it depended on who captured them.

So. What if the game was started with just one original wolf, and those original "disappearances" were simply Team Rocket 'captures' to build out the wolf team. I could easily see doing that as a mod. Sorta a "build your wolf team" mechanic.

Quite a while ago I tried to lynch one of the disappeared (DVMD). Purely because I wanted to test how really truly 'disappeared' they were. In retrospect, I'm not sure it's worth wasting an entire lynch to test what is probably a far-fetched theory, but..... *shrug* Something to talk about, I guess.

I kinda like that idea. I'm guessing that only the pokemons that "had the potential to be something greater" are the only ones that can become a part of Team Rocket though, just based off of what happened with Devyn.

Maybe there was one original wolf, and the 32 of us left were divided into 16 non-evolvable (convertable) and 16 convertable pokemon? And so our charge as villagers is to kill off the original wolf as well as any converted ones. The mystery votes are maybe then the "missing" pokemon that weren't converted 😕

Totally wild theory here... but I kinda would really like it if it were true

 

[StartingoverVet]

I'm hesitant to agree.

Per the mods, somebody was "hunting for [me]" last night. I was able to evade attack and "escaped."

So. I don't want to outright disagree with you, because it's not definitively clear they were hunting for me to KILL me (could have been coming to block, silence, whatever). But it's at least a reasonable possibility that there was no kill last night because I was the target.

Wolves: Keep trying!

I did not protect you last night, as I stated earlier, and I had the bicycle to evade attack, so I know you didn't have that.

I have only ever heard of the ashhat being protective.
Did you have that?
If anyone else had that item please speak up.

I am understandably skeptical of an attack evasion at this point in the game when conversions are possible (unless Minnerbelle's or LIS' theory is correct)..

If LIS had the hat, then case closed.


FWIW, i think this Packen-LIS feud is like the DVMD-LIS feuds in the past.. 2 pigheaded people overreacting.. 😱

LIS has certainly been more trusting kaydubs than not (although not unreasonably perhaps if he is good) and Packen did correctly pick up on that. And WTF seems quite similar.

So I just think it is normal paranoia, and not necessarily a wolf.

Varz seems to be completely under the radar... so a bit randomly
lynch varz because I don't agree with LIS or Packen votes, and I won't blindly follow one of those letter voters of unknown allegiance.

 

[StartingoverVet]

unlynch varz.

I just reread the last few pages.. and I am willing to take a shot on finding out what is going on with the missing people. I don't want that to bite us in derriere.

lynch lissarae06

She was the first one to go missing, and the early people usually get the strange roles. And I haven't heard much from her .. so perhaps she is avoiding me.

 

[Philliab]

OK...don't have time to go back and look at all the past votes, but who was in the lead on those 2 lynches that changed last minute?

 

[DVMDream]

FWIW, i think this Packen-LIS feud is like the DVMD-LIS feuds in the past.. 2 pigheaded people overreacting.. 😱

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[Philliab]

OK...don't have time to go back and look at all the past votes, but who was in the lead on those 2 lynches that changed last minute?

Answered by own question: the last one I see was for Varz so lynch Varz. I have nothing better and need to get on the road. Will check in later before deadline (I hope) in case someone comes up with something better.

 

[StartingoverVet]

Wow, that FTB late lynch looked awfully like the WTF late lynch...

For the record I see (and anyone can correct me in case I missed).

FTB voters: FFM, sheebal, philab, varz.
WTF voters: kismet, dandelion, philab, dyachei, swing, SnS.

I would guess each list has at least a couple of wolves.
When I am a wolf, I wouldn't use the same people, but still might use the same strategy if it is effective.

I would say among those 9 voters there could easily be 3-4 wolves. That is pretty good odds to pick among. I suggest investigating those people if you have an item. My suspicions lie there for now, although I still like ser dem as a possible wolf.

OK...don't have time to go back and look at all the past votes, but who was in the lead on those 2 lynches that changed last minute?

You are the only one in both of those votes phili.

sheebal varz sns also living bandwagoners.

 

[hedgiehog]

unlynch varz.

I just reread the last few pages.. and I am willing to take a shot on finding out what is going on with the missing people. I don't want that to bite us in derriere.

lynch lissarae06

She was the first one to go missing, and the early people usually get the strange roles. And I haven't heard much from her .. so perhaps she is avoiding me.

Really you're trying to lynch the dead pregnant woman?! That's cold dude. lynch philliab To be honest I forgot phil was playing and the wolves have been really under the radar this game.

 

[DVMDream]

Really you're trying to lynch the dead pregnant woman?! That's cold dude.

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He is an old, grumpy man... what more do you expect? 😛
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[LetItSnow]

If LIS had the hat, then case closed.

I would prefer not to answer that, beyond saying that I had a means of protection.

FWIW, i think this Packen-LIS feud is like the DVMD-LIS feuds in the past.. 2 pigheaded people overreacting.. 😱

I didn't really think we were feuding. I genuinely have been suspicious of Packen (witness at least, what, two lynch votes on my part), and all of the sudden Packen throws out clearly twisted interpretation of what I said? You wouldn't find that the *least* bit suspicious? I'm not really feuding - just going off of what absurdly little data I have.

That said, Packen is right about WTF. I forgot that WTF was rez'd by ... whoever. Who turned out to be a villager.

 

[LetItSnow]

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It's worth noting that while DVMD and I have feuded, I think we've rarely incorrectly ended up lynching each other. 🙂

 

[StartingoverVet]

UnOfficial Lynch Tally

Packen - 1 (LIS)
kakurubird - 1 (W)
Foxhunter - 1 (X)
Phililab - 1 (hedgehog)
Varz -1 (phililab)
lissarae -1 (SOV)
LIS - 1 (packen)

 

[StartingoverVet]

UnOfficial Lynch Tally

Packen - 1 (LIS)
kakurubird - 1 (W)
Foxhunter - 1 (X)
Phililab - 1 (hedgehog)
Varz -1 (phililab)
lissarae -1 (SOV)
LIS - 1 (packen)

Now everyone is afraid to be the second vote....
this is getting us nowhere.

 

[Lissarae06]

unlynch varz.

I just reread the last few pages.. and I am willing to take a shot on finding out what is going on with the missing people. I don't want that to bite us in derriere.

lynch lissarae06

She was the first one to go missing, and the early people usually get the strange roles. And I haven't heard much from her .. so perhaps she is avoiding me.

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I have not been avoiding you! I have been trying to catch you on facebook so I could talk trash about our upcoming fantasy football matchup!
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[StartingoverVet]

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I have not been avoiding you! I have been trying to catch you on facebook so I could talk trash about our upcoming fantasy football matchup!
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I hope you win. You have Eli Manning. I want him to throw 8 TDs and give you an awesome victory.

Giants >>>>> Fantasy Football.

 

[LetItSnow]

Now everyone is afraid to be the second vote....
this is getting us nowhere.

I'm not afraid to be the second vote. I just haven't decided whether I want to stick with my current vote, switch to Lissa and potentially utterly waste a lynch, or ... some third option.

 

[Lissarae06]

I hope you win. You have Eli Manning. I want him to throw 8 TDs and give you an awesome victory.

Giants >>>>> Fantasy Football.

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No, I have Peyton Manning.

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