I have to disagree with the statement that Wash U has Durham on location. The area around Duke is one of the top five campuses in the country. Its georgeous. If you leave the area around Duke, it does go down in beauty a bit, but not really too much. Chapel Hill, which is fifteen minutes from Duke, is rated one of the best places to live in the country. The roads from Duke to Chapel Hill are surrounded by Duke Forest, which is also beautiful. If you are talking about not having city like atmoshphere, the research triangle (Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill, Cary) has well over a million people and it has just about anything you'd want. Also, in Durham you are two hours away from some of the most georgeous mountains in the country with some ok skiing. Your also only two hours away from the outer banks (where Dawson's Creek is filmed) and the beaches. How far are you from the beach in St.Louis? Now I visited St.Louis and I liked it very much. If I get into Wash U and Duke (thats not happening) I'd definitely consider Wash U, but I just think its an unfair statement to say Wash U has Duke beat on location.