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Ok, so here’s my best case from recent memory. Sorry for crappy phone formatting.

55M signed out from prior doc. Here for hematemesis, history of EtOH cirrhosis, had an EGD with banding of some varices done at hospital in Venezuela a few days ago. Stable, BP 110s systolic, O2 98%, not tachy, alert, pending admission at signout, GI says obs, outpatient scope after discharge. Enjoying his protonix and octreotide drips, complaining about NPO status.

Triage labs:
Hemoglobin 10.6
INR 1.8
Scattered electrolyte, renal, and hepatic findings consistent with CLD, but none markedly concerning.

About 7 minutes into the shift I peek over my desk and the guy is now covered in black emesis, unresponsive, O2 low 80s, and agonal breathing. BP now 90/50 and tachy 110s. Stat RSI, airway full of blood but luckily goes smoothly.

Recycle the BP and now it’s 70/40, call for Massive Transfusion Protocol, the nurse drops an OG tube, and it immediately begins pouring out mixed black blood, clots, and gunk. The OG is putting out this black trash so fast it burns through both of our suction canisters in about 10 minutes. I send the MS4 off to find “as many suction canisters as you can carry.” We start the first 2 units of PRBCs via level 1 infuser. After the first 2 units the BP is now 65 systolic, blood still pouring from the NGT, so we call for FFP, platelets, calcium, TXA.

Now 4 units of blood, 1 platelet, 1 FFP in and I’m Hammer paging GI, who is kind enough to inform us in person the guy is now too sick to be scoped, should go to ICU, they’ll see him if he makes it up there.

Total NGT output is now 4L, BPs still in the 65-75 systolic range. We decide to go for our Hail Mary and drop a blakemore tube. By some miracle we’ve got the one nurse working who actually knows where all the components are. We attempt to pass the tube but the dude has some weird oropharynx anatomy and it just keeps curling in his throat. NGT output is now over 5L of blood.

Suddenly I have an amazing idea! Let’s pass the blakemore like an NG tube. We get it through the guy’s nose but it keeps curling in his mouth. So I shoved my whole hand in this dudes mouth while the MS4 held the ET in place, grabbed the blakemore, and manually passed it into the esophagus. We inflate the thing, tie it to the wall for tension, and within a couple of minutes the bloody output stops and BP starts to creep up into the 90s. Me and the attending, who has balls of steel for letting me try that, high five all around.

All in all the gentleman went to the MICU with a total blood loss of 6 L, received 11 units of products (6 PRBC, 4 FFP, 1 platelet). Lowest hemoglobin, drawn during the resus, was 2.8.
Scoped and banded in the MICU, woke up Neuro intact a few days Later.
Great save! Esophageal tamponade devices are tough to place. It may help to try slathering the distal portion of the tube in gel, and hooking a bougie into the distal port. This gives the tube a bit of rigidity to get through the initial portion of the esophagus. Using a laryngoscope for the initial stages of the insertion is also helpful.
 
I've never seen/heard of a patient surviving after a Blakemore. Crazy case.
I've never seen a Blakemore and all it's parts AND the obligatory Football helmet make it to the ED... much less make it into a patient for said patient to survive!
 
I've never seen a Blakemore and all it's parts AND the obligatory Football helmet make it to the ED... much less make it into a patient for said patient to survive!
The football helmet came late but did eventually arrive from sterile processing!

I was kinda bummed it didn’t have our institutions logo on it or something.
 

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I certainly didn’t expect such incredulous replies. TBH I made my initial post under the impression the patient held in their wound dehiscence keeping everything from coming out.



This gave me the impression she was ambulatory, able to change positions, and functionally handling any pain okay. It didn’t sound like someone who’s intestines were draped all over the ground like spaghetti. I’ve seen much worse come via POV. Did they have to? No. That doesn’t mean it isn’t a reasonable consideration, but it all depends on the details. Perhaps I was too judgmental post a shift of EMS abuse.

Out of curiosity (if able to find out, and I recognize probably not), I wonder what interventions EMS performed during transport for this case, the time difference from when 911 called to arrival at the ED vs. immediate transport via POV (and which was faster), and ultimately how quickly taken to the OR upon arrival to the ED. Maybe I’d be surprised, but maybe some of you would as well.
Ok after talking with my wife I have to addend this story.

She drove herself to the ED, so she also didn't think EMS was needed.
 
Ok after talking with my wife I have to addend this story.

She drove herself to the ED, so she also didn't think EMS was needed.
Like the rural NC farmer guy with the manual transmission in his truck, who drove himself in with his bi- or tri-mal fracture of his left ankle.

Sometimes, folks don't make the best decisions. It's good fortune that there is not a worse outcome.
 
I had a similar case. Young lady (20s) brought in altered then seized, was at a casino.

She had been drinking a 12-pack of Diet Coke daily for...well, who knows how long.

Don't do that.

Curiosity question from the peanut gallery --

As a few previous posters have alluded to, Diet Coke has a little bit of sodium (40 mg/12 fl oz serving). Was the fact that it was diet pop specifically a red herring in this case and it was simply the volume of water? (12 pack of 12-oz cans = 144 oz = 4.26 L of fluid a day!) Diet pop doesn't have much caffeine in it compared to coffee (46 mg/12 oz Diet Coke vs 136 mg/12 oz coffee) - perhaps she was drinking a large volume of it for the caffeine content?
 
Curiosity question from the peanut gallery --

As a few previous posters have alluded to, Diet Coke has a little bit of sodium (40 mg/12 fl oz serving). Was the fact that it was diet pop specifically a red herring in this case and it was simply the volume of water? (12 pack of 12-oz cans = 144 oz = 4.26 L of fluid a day!) Diet pop doesn't have much caffeine in it compared to coffee (46 mg/12 oz Diet Coke vs 136 mg/12 oz coffee) - perhaps she was drinking a large volume of it for the caffeine content?

Good question.
I figure that I drink about a 12-pack of seltzer water a day. Maybe that's a bit much, but I easily go thru 8-10 cans.
 
Amp of HCO3!!

1 ampule (50 mL) of 8.4% NaHCO3 has ~equivalent toxicity to 50 mL of 6% Na or 100 mL of 3% Na (the standard correct answer), but is much more readily available.


Yep we usually give 100 mLs of bicarbonate which is equivalent to 200 mLs of 3% saline.
 
Curiosity question from the peanut gallery --

As a few previous posters have alluded to, Diet Coke has a little bit of sodium (40 mg/12 fl oz serving). Was the fact that it was diet pop specifically a red herring in this case and it was simply the volume of water? (12 pack of 12-oz cans = 144 oz = 4.26 L of fluid a day!) Diet pop doesn't have much caffeine in it compared to coffee (46 mg/12 oz Diet Coke vs 136 mg/12 oz coffee) - perhaps she was drinking a large volume of it for the caffeine content?

It's either extremely underestimated or something else was going on. A 12 pack of diet coke isn't that absurd. There's people out there who drink several of the 2Ls of diet soda a day.
 
About once every five years I get the good chuckle of standing down a "code stroke" when the blown pupil is from someone touching their eye after removing their scopolamine patch.

Healthcare hero. 💪

OMG. A friend of mine had a chole and was wearing a scopolamine patch afterwards. She texts me and says "I'm SOB and I have blurry vision, and one of my pupils is more dilated than the other." I was quite puzzled by this (and BTW I wasn't worried about the SOB either). Anyway. She went to the ER later that day and ER in combo with Ophtho diagnosed it as coming from the scopolamine patch. I'd never heard of that.
 
I added to my previous post to expand. EMS can provide benefit, but like much of health care is inappropriately utilized and abused. When you work overnight in the ED and get ambulance after ambulance of elderly patients that fall down without emergent conditions you start to feel this way.

Somehow using EMS when you are literally holding your guts in your hands does not seem like an abuse of that service.
 
Here's a good case we had recently.

EMS arrives with an 60 YOF from home with a week of progressively worsening confusion and sleepiness.

Husband states his wife was recently diagnosed with diabetes and is drinking tons of water to stay hydrated.

While at triage she's found to be completely unresponsive with normal vital signs and blood glucose level.

Patient is taken into the resuscitation room and shortly afterwards begins having tonic clonic seizures.

For all the new interns on here what's the next move in terms of immediate patient management?
hyponatremia causing seizures. Give benzos, then follow status meds pathway, protect airway early. Check lytes, reverse hyponatremia if that is the cause in conjunction with intensivist
 
reverse hyponatremia if that is the cause in conjunction with intensivist
With all due respect to the intensivists, what is there to do in conjunction with them? You give sodium bicarbonate or hypertonic saline and rapidly correct the hyponatremia until the point they are no longer in status. We are resuscitationists and don’t need to consult that out.
 
With all due respect to the intensivists, what is there to do in conjunction with them? You give sodium bicarbonate or hypertonic saline and rapidly correct the hyponatremia until the point they are no longer in status. We are resuscitationists and don’t need to consult that out.
You're right, reviewed the emcases article on this and looks like immediately reverse with 100mL 3%NS over 10 minutes repeated until correction of mental status or 5meQ increase in sodium. Crash cart bicarb also works here. Only at that point do you subsequently involve nephro/intensivist
 
OMG. A friend of mine had a chole and was wearing a scopolamine patch afterwards. She texts me and says "I'm SOB and I have blurry vision, and one of my pupils is more dilated than the other." I was quite puzzled by this (and BTW I wasn't worried about the SOB either). Anyway. She went to the ER later that day and ER in combo with Ophtho diagnosed it as coming from the scopolamine patch. I'd never heard of that.
This is fairly common. Patient touches the patch, then rubs their eye. I don't put scop patches on patients very often but I sometimes will on someone I'm admitting with severe nausea/vomiting/vertigo. I always warn them not touch the patch for precisely this reason.
 
Not a good reason to use an ambulance, yet many do. Family can all pile in for the trip. Have a neighbor, friend or family come over to watch the kids. Various options.

Yes. Expensive Morphine.

Often there are even more atrocious uses of ambulances. This example just made me think of this given how stoic she seemed yet still called an ambulance. It would likely make insignificant that questionable advantage in time as it would still take a while from ED arrival to mobilize the OR.

My grandfather accidentally set himself on fire sustaining 3rd degree burns in his 70s while burning field and yet still drove himself into town where he was subsequently life flighted to a burn center. We often over-utilize EMS when other cheaper, essentially as quick, means will do. Illustrates American healthcare - more without significantly increased benefit.
now that is expensive, sounds like he should have driven to the tertiary center instead
 
now that is expensive, sounds like he should have driven to the tertiary center instead
Driving a half hour is different than driving 4-5 hours. Intubated at first location. He got to the first hospital much faster than rural EMS could have ever gotten to him out in the country.
 
Like the rural NC farmer guy with the manual transmission in his truck, who drove himself in with his bi- or tri-mal fracture of his left ankle.

Sometimes, folks don't make the best decisions. It's good fortune that there is not a worse outcome.
I claim credit for the "Old German farmer sign."

If an old, German, farmer voluntarily comes to the ED, skip triage, skip fast-track, put him in a room and let me know as soon as I am out of a room.

If he asked his wife to drive him in, put him in one of the resuscitation bays and get me immediately.

If he called EMS, relax. He is dead. Call the coroner.

An heuristic clinical rule, and it doesn't have the "evidence based" seal of approval, but if anyone wants to do a retrospective study I guarantee it will be as good as most of the others floating around.
 
Perfect timing but just had probably one of the craziest cases of my career that I had to share.

As many people know I do a lot of international work and I'm currently in Africa helping with their COVID surge.

Long story short our ER is completely full right now with COVID patients and we have no beds available causing patients to have to sit outside the hospital in the parking lot hooked up to portable oxygen. Anyway I'm working yesterday afternoon and a car pulls up to the ambulance bay and the family runs inside screaming that their daughter is having a bad asthma attack and isn't breathing. Come outside to help and find her in the back seat of the car unresponsive and gasping for breath. Slap on a finger pulse ox which showed HR 160 and SpO2 40. Listen but can barely hear anything with absent breath sounds and no air movement. Pull her out of the car and into a wheelchair but there aren't any beds available plus the nurse is refusing to take her inside because of the COVID patients. Not trying to waste time arguing so basically said **** it lets do this right here in the ambulance bay. Told her to start two large bore IVs and hang a couple liters. Ran inside and grabbed a BVM and my airway bag. Came back and had a nurse bag her while I set up with a mac 3 bougie and 6-0 tube. Sat her upright with her head back and tubed her right there while in the wheelchair with no meds or suction. Told the nurses to give all the asthma meds but apparently we ran out last week and nothing was available including albuterol, solumedrol, magnesium, or theophylline. Didn't want to give up cause she's young and healthy otherwise so grabbed some push dose epinephrine and just started pushing 10 mcg every couple min. Gave a total of 5 doses and she began to slowly improve to the point that she developed significant audible wheezing in both lungs. After 30 min the wheezing started to decrease with good air movement and her vital signs improved to HR 120 and SpO2 100. After 60 min she started waking up opening her eyes on her own and then all of the sudden before we could give sedation she suddenly stood up and pulled out the tube. Convinced her to sit back down and put her on an NRB mask but she's speaking in full sentences and yelling at her family about why they brought her to the hospital. After 2 hrs she demands to leave and the family basically walks out before security arrives. Came back to work earlier this afternoon wondering if she went home and died last night when she walks in the front entrance asking if she can have a refill on her inhaler because she had difficulty breathing all night long and feels terrible.
 
Perfect timing but just had probably one of the craziest cases of my career that I had to share.

As many people know I do a lot of international work and I'm currently in Africa helping with their COVID surge.

Long story short our ER is completely full right now with COVID patients and we have no beds available causing patients to have to sit outside the hospital in the parking lot hooked up to portable oxygen. Anyway I'm working yesterday afternoon and a car pulls up to the ambulance bay and the family runs inside screaming that their daughter is having a bad asthma attack and isn't breathing. Come outside to help and find her in the back seat of the car unresponsive and gasping for breath. Slap on a finger pulse ox which showed HR 160 and SpO2 40. Listen but can barely hear anything with absent breath sounds and no air movement. Pull her out of the car and into a wheelchair but there aren't any beds available plus the nurse is refusing to take her inside because of the COVID patients. Not trying to waste time arguing so basically said **** it lets do this right here in the ambulance bay. Told her to start two large bore IVs and hang a couple liters. Ran inside and grabbed a BVM and my airway bag. Came back and had a nurse bag her while I set up with a mac 3 bougie and 6-0 tube. Sat her upright with her head back and tubed her right there while in the wheelchair with no meds or suction. Told the nurses to give all the asthma meds but apparently we ran out last week and nothing was available including albuterol, solumedrol, magnesium, or theophylline. Didn't want to give up cause she's young and healthy otherwise so grabbed some push dose epinephrine and just started pushing 10 mcg every couple min. Gave a total of 5 doses and she began to slowly improve to the point that she developed significant audible wheezing in both lungs. After 30 min the wheezing started to decrease with good air movement and her vital signs improved to HR 120 and SpO2 100. After 60 min she started waking up opening her eyes on her own and then all of the sudden before we could give sedation she suddenly stood up and pulled out the tube. Convinced her to sit back down and put her on an NRB mask but she's speaking in full sentences and yelling at her family about why they brought her to the hospital. After 2 hrs she demands to leave and the family basically walks out before security arrives. Came back to work earlier this afternoon wondering if she went home and died last night when she walks in the front entrance asking if she can have a refill on her inhaler because she had difficulty breathing all night long and feels terrible.
Wow lol
 
Perfect timing but just had probably one of the craziest cases of my career that I had to share.

As many people know I do a lot of international work and I'm currently in Africa helping with their COVID surge.

Long story short our ER is completely full right now with COVID patients and we have no beds available causing patients to have to sit outside the hospital in the parking lot hooked up to portable oxygen. Anyway I'm working yesterday afternoon and a car pulls up to the ambulance bay and the family runs inside screaming that their daughter is having a bad asthma attack and isn't breathing. Come outside to help and find her in the back seat of the car unresponsive and gasping for breath. Slap on a finger pulse ox which showed HR 160 and SpO2 40. Listen but can barely hear anything with absent breath sounds and no air movement. Pull her out of the car and into a wheelchair but there aren't any beds available plus the nurse is refusing to take her inside because of the COVID patients. Not trying to waste time arguing so basically said **** it lets do this right here in the ambulance bay. Told her to start two large bore IVs and hang a couple liters. Ran inside and grabbed a BVM and my airway bag. Came back and had a nurse bag her while I set up with a mac 3 bougie and 6-0 tube. Sat her upright with her head back and tubed her right there while in the wheelchair with no meds or suction. Told the nurses to give all the asthma meds but apparently we ran out last week and nothing was available including albuterol, solumedrol, magnesium, or theophylline. Didn't want to give up cause she's young and healthy otherwise so grabbed some push dose epinephrine and just started pushing 10 mcg every couple min. Gave a total of 5 doses and she began to slowly improve to the point that she developed significant audible wheezing in both lungs. After 30 min the wheezing started to decrease with good air movement and her vital signs improved to HR 120 and SpO2 100. After 60 min she started waking up opening her eyes on her own and then all of the sudden before we could give sedation she suddenly stood up and pulled out the tube. Convinced her to sit back down and put her on an NRB mask but she's speaking in full sentences and yelling at her family about why they brought her to the hospital. After 2 hrs she demands to leave and the family basically walks out before security arrives. Came back to work earlier this afternoon wondering if she went home and died last night when she walks in the front entrance asking if she can have a refill on her inhaler because she had difficulty breathing all night long and feels terrible.
Nice save.
 
Perfect timing but just had probably one of the craziest cases of my career that I had to share.

As many people know I do a lot of international work and I'm currently in Africa helping with their COVID surge.

Long story short our ER is completely full right now with COVID patients and we have no beds available causing patients to have to sit outside the hospital in the parking lot hooked up to portable oxygen. Anyway I'm working yesterday afternoon and a car pulls up to the ambulance bay and the family runs inside screaming that their daughter is having a bad asthma attack and isn't breathing. Come outside to help and find her in the back seat of the car unresponsive and gasping for breath. Slap on a finger pulse ox which showed HR 160 and SpO2 40. Listen but can barely hear anything with absent breath sounds and no air movement. Pull her out of the car and into a wheelchair but there aren't any beds available plus the nurse is refusing to take her inside because of the COVID patients. Not trying to waste time arguing so basically said **** it lets do this right here in the ambulance bay. Told her to start two large bore IVs and hang a couple liters. Ran inside and grabbed a BVM and my airway bag. Came back and had a nurse bag her while I set up with a mac 3 bougie and 6-0 tube. Sat her upright with her head back and tubed her right there while in the wheelchair with no meds or suction. Told the nurses to give all the asthma meds but apparently we ran out last week and nothing was available including albuterol, solumedrol, magnesium, or theophylline. Didn't want to give up cause she's young and healthy otherwise so grabbed some push dose epinephrine and just started pushing 10 mcg every couple min. Gave a total of 5 doses and she began to slowly improve to the point that she developed significant audible wheezing in both lungs. After 30 min the wheezing started to decrease with good air movement and her vital signs improved to HR 120 and SpO2 100. After 60 min she started waking up opening her eyes on her own and then all of the sudden before we could give sedation she suddenly stood up and pulled out the tube. Convinced her to sit back down and put her on an NRB mask but she's speaking in full sentences and yelling at her family about why they brought her to the hospital. After 2 hrs she demands to leave and the family basically walks out before security arrives. Came back to work earlier this afternoon wondering if she went home and died last night when she walks in the front entrance asking if she can have a refill on her inhaler because she had difficulty breathing all night long and feels terrible.
She's gonna give you all 1's on your Press Ganey survey because you didn't offer her a turkey sammich.
 
Does anyone else give IV iron in the ED?
I've done it for patients sent in for a transfusion for "critical anemia" who wind up having a Hb of 8.x or something and have a hx of iron deficiency anemia. This is almost entirely customer satisfaction driven though, as it allows me to explain why I'm still doing something even though they don't need the blood transfusion that they were told that they did.

Incidental non severe anemia gets no ED intervention and PCP followup.
 
I've done it for patients sent in for a transfusion for "critical anemia" who wind up having a Hb of 8.x or something and have a hx of iron deficiency anemia. This is almost entirely customer satisfaction driven though, as it allows me to explain why I'm still doing something even though they don't need the blood transfusion that they were told that they did.

Incidental non severe anemia gets no ED intervention and PCP followup.
Nice. Yeah, I've been doing it for several years, although I'm much more of a believer. I think it's good for patients, as so many either can't tolerate or are just nonaderent to PO iron. Personally I don't transfuse for Fe-deficiency until the Hgb gets below 5.5 or something in healthy people absent high-grade symptoms.
 
Got a patient im trying to get ecmo for who is 20 and drowned. But get this……










Our F’ing helipad has too slippery of paint that was applied to it and is **** down…..
 
Nice. Yeah, I've been doing it for several years, although I'm much more of a believer. I think it's good for patients, as so many either can't tolerate or are just nonaderent to PO iron. Personally I don't transfuse for Fe-deficiency until the Hgb gets below 5.5 or something in healthy people absent high-grade symptoms.

It's also way more bioavailable / efficacious than PO iron, so with a few doses you can replete much more of the total body deficit than starting someone on oral iron which as mentioned many people stop taking. Way faster than giving a unit of blood, too.
 
22 yo F w/ a hx of anemia and pseudoseizures presents for hematemesis. Pt states she has been having off and on hematemesis for 4-5 months. She is in the waiting room because we have no beds. I get a report from nursing staff that patient had a hematemesis episode in the bathroom and passed out, now looks pale, and has blood surrounding her mouth, with a piece of blood clot hanging on her lips. I walk in to the restroom to see a morbidly obese woman lying on the bathroom floor who is awake, with blood smeared around her mouth. She denies any hx of ulcers, liver disease, alcohol abuse, and NSAID use.

They place her into one of our triage rooms to start lab work on her. VS are all perfect. I get called in again to see her because she is having a seizure. I walk in to find the patient flailing her arms and legs around.

"Ma'am, this is really important, I need to know what medications work for your seizures, because giving the wrong meds can kill you!"

"Ativan"

"Sorry, I don't think that is an appropriate medication, but I'll see what you've received in the past."

"I'm going to have another seizure if I don't get ativan, doctor."

"I'm sorry ma'am, but that is a risk we are going to have to take."
......

5 minutes later: "Doctor, she's seizing again."

"Okay, let her tire herself out."
......

We get labs on her with everything coming back normal. Before I can go talk to her to let her know she will be going home, the nurse calls me into the bathroom again.

"Doctor, she threw up blood again and passed out on the floor." She is lying on the floor feigning loss of consciousness with another blood clot attached to her lips. No blood in the toilet. No blood around toilet. No blood in her teeth or in her throat. The only other place blood is present is on her fingernails.

"Did anyone actually witness her throw up blood?"

"Well, no."

"Ma'am, please open your eyes so we can talk and I can figure out what's going on."

*She opens her eyes*

"Are you currently on your menstrual period?"

"Yes."

"Ma'am, please stop smearing period blood on your face to fake throwing up blood."

This is where she starts yelling that she is going to call her lawyer and she is going to get her fiance to come get me for thinking she would fake throwing up blood. I then feign that there is a test I can perform to definitively tell whether that blood around her mouth is definitively coming from her stomach. At this point, she starts faking a seizure again. I then tell the nurse loud enough for the patient to hear, "I don't have time for this sh**. Call security to escort her off of hospital property." The patient then begins to yell at me again.
 
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22 yo F w/ a hx of anemia and pseudoseizures presents for hematemesis. Pt states she has been having off and on hematemesis for 4-5 months. She is in the waiting room because we have no beds. I get a report from nursing staff that patient had a hematemesis episode in the bathroom and passed out, now looks pale, and has blood surrounding her mouth, with a piece of blood clot hanging on her lips. I walk in to the restroom to see a morbidly obese woman lying on the bathroom floor who is awake, with blood smeared around her mouth. She denies any hx of ulcers, liver disease, alcohol abuse, and NSAID use.

They place her into one of our triage rooms to start lab work on her. VS are all perfect. I get called in again to see her because she is having a seizure. I walk in to find the patient flailing her arms and legs around.

"Ma'am, this is really important, I need to know what medications work for your seizures, because giving the wrong meds can kill you!"

"Ativan"

"Sorry, I don't think that is an appropriate medication, but I'll see what you've received in the past."

"I'm going to have another seizure if I don't get ativan, doctor."

"I'm sorry ma'am, but that is a risk we are going to have to take."
......

5 minutes later: "Doctor, she's seizing again."

"Okay, let her tire herself out."
......

We get labs on her with everything coming back normal. Before I can go talk to her to let her know she will be going home, the nurse calls me into the bathroom again.

"Doctor, she threw up blood again and passed out on the floor." She is lying on the floor feigning loss of consciousness with another blood clot attached to her lips. No blood in the toilet. No blood around toilet. No blood in her teeth or in her throat. The only other place blood is present is on her fingernails.

"Did anyone actually witness her throw up blood?"

"Well, no."

"Ma'am, please open your eyes so we can talk and I can figure out what's going on."

*She opens her eyes*

"Are you currently on your menstrual period?"

"Yes."

"Ma'am, please stop smearing period blood on your face to fake throwing up blood."

This is where she starts yelling that she is going to call her lawyer and she is going to get her fiance to come get me for thinking she would fake throwing up blood. I then feign that there is a test I can perform to definitively tell whether that blood around her mouth is definitively coming from her stomach. At this point, she starts faking a seizure again. I then tell the nurse loud enough for the patient to hear, "I don't have time for this sh**. Call security to escort her off of hospital property." The patient then begins to yell at me again.

This is disgusting in multiple ways
 
Does anyone else give IV iron in the ED?
on very rare occurrences we do as a way to prevent admission or follow up with a infusion clinic -usually at the direction of their heme/onc MD - the behind the scenes money game is not my world, but if (a big if) it doesn't mess things up to tie up a bed to it, it can save a trip back to the hospital, or an uncessary admission.
 
My contribution -
I get a call from a cards NP in the middle of the night about how to treat a patient who high K. Basically pt had high K in the ED, and was SOB, was treated with the usual cocktail, and admitted to cards. K dropped, now it is back high again (~6.5 or something like that). I pull up the chart just to make sure not hemolyzed, etc. I notice the WBC is like 50k+ and ask what is going on with that, do they have some sort of leukemia or lymphoma? (baseline WNL)

NP - "Not that I know of?"

Me - have you considered some sort of tumor lysis syndrome? (I know spontaneously TLS isn't very common). Basically I told her she really needs to draw labs (uric acid) and consult someone who can give better insight and can management this as it is more than just simple hyperkalemia. She doesn't want to - she just wants to give some SPS and call it good until morning. The best part is we have these vocera speaker phones so everybody around can hear both sides to the conversation (PS I hate those things). One of the ED doc's I am sitting next to hears this as I get pushback from the NP.

Finally here says "give me the phone" and basically tells her these are the types of pt's that can go downhill quick and could code and needs to be taken to the unit and evaluated for emergent dialysis. She reluctantly agrees.

Moral of the story - pt ends up having a K >7 despite treatment, uric acid elevated, diagnosed with TLS and pt ends up getting emergent dialysis.
 
My contribution -
I get a call from a cards NP in the middle of the night about how to treat a patient who high K. Basically pt had high K in the ED, and was SOB, was treated with the usual cocktail, and admitted to cards. K dropped, now it is back high again (~6.5 or something like that). I pull up the chart just to make sure not hemolyzed, etc. I notice the WBC is like 50k+ and ask what is going on with that, do they have some sort of leukemia or lymphoma? (baseline WNL)

NP - "Not that I know of?"

Me - have you considered some sort of tumor lysis syndrome? (I know spontaneously TLS isn't very common). Basically I told her she really needs to draw labs (uric acid) and consult someone who can give better insight and can management this as it is more than just simple hyperkalemia. She doesn't want to - she just wants to give some SPS and call it good until morning. The best part is we have these vocera speaker phones so everybody around can hear both sides to the conversation (PS I hate those things). One of the ED doc's I am sitting next to hears this as I get pushback from the NP.

Finally here says "give me the phone" and basically tells her these are the types of pt's that can go downhill quick and could code and needs to be taken to the unit and evaluated for emergent dialysis. She reluctantly agrees.

Moral of the story - pt ends up having a K >7 despite treatment, uric acid elevated, diagnosed with TLS and pt ends up getting emergent dialysis.
She probably doesn’t even know what TLS is
 
She probably doesn’t even know what TLS is
That's an error I've gotten from SDN in the past -"error completing TLS handshake", or some sort. I'm confident that something from networking and something from heme/onc HAS to be the same thing!
 
That's an error I've gotten from SDN in the past -"error completing TLS handshake", or some sort. I'm confident that something from networking and something from heme/onc HAS to be the same thing!

This...

This actually made me laugh out loud.
 
I barely know what TLS is, so a Cards NP most definitely has never heard of TLS......
I knew she probably didn’t. I am not a onc person by any means. But I know you need someone who knows what they are doing to treat it. Crazy thing is that they didn’t have diagnosed cancer (yet).
 
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