Post New 2010 Match Lists!!

[slowbutsteady]

Here is Brown's

http://med.brown.edu/about/match


Again, you can PM me if you want me to post it for you.

Cheers

Dude, you shouldn't post the one with people's names in it!!!! Not cool.

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[thesauce]

Dude, you shouldn't post the one with people's names in it!!!! Not cool.

He provided a link to a website that can be found by googling "brown match list" and then hitting "I'm feeling lucky." This isn't exactly top secret information. I think he's okay.

 

[jbz24]

Who cares if it has people's names on it?

 

[thesauce]

Who cares if it has people's names on it?

Not everyone wants to broadcast where they're headed for residency (or even where they went to medical school). I understand where slowbutsteady is coming from, but in this case the 'fault' lies with the school.

 

[jbz24]

Yeah true, but most schools make it public knowledge anyway.

 

[UTSW2010]

UCSF (By numbers not hospitals): medschool2.ucsf.edu/files/som/downloads/pdf/2009MatchResults.pdf

Baylor (By state):
ALABAMA

ALASKA

ARIZONA

ARKANSAS

CALIFORNIA
UCLA Medical Center-CA
Anesthesiology C
BCM-1

Internal Medicine C
BCM-3

Internal Medicine-Preliminary
BCM-1

Orthopaedic Surgery C
BCM-1

Otolaryngology C
BCM-1

Pediatrics C
BCM-1

UCLA Semel Institute for Neuroscience
Psychiatry C
BCM-1

UC San Francisco-CA
Internal Medicine C
BCM-1

UC San Diego Medical Center
General Surgery C
BCM-1

University of Southern California
Orthopaedic Surgery-C
BCM-1

Kaiser Permanente-South California Region
Family Medicine C
BCM-1

Green Hospital-Scripps Clinic
Internal Medicine C
BCM-1

COLORADO
Colorado Health Foundation
Transitional
BCM-2

University of Colorado School of Medicine-Denver
Internal Medicine C
BCM-2

Otolaryngology C
BCM-1

CONNECTICUT
Yale-New Haven Hospital
Psychiatry C
BCM-1

Surgery-Preliminary
BCM-1

DELAWARE

DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA
Children's National Medical Center
Pediatrics C
BCM-1

Georgetown University Hospital-DC
Obstetrics and Gynecology
BCM-1

Washington Hospital Center
Emergency Medicine C
BCM-1

FLORIDA
Jackson Memorial Hospital
Surgery-Preliminary/Urology
BCM-1

University of Florida/Shands
Otolaryngology C
BCM-1

GEORGIA

HAWAII

IDAHO

ILLINOIS
McGaw Northwestern Medical Center-IL
Internal Medicine C
BCM-3

Psychiatry
BCM-1

University of Chicago Medical Center Hospital
Internal Medicine C
BCM-1

Emergency Medicine C
BCM-1

Resurrection Medical Center
Emergency Medicine C
BCM-1

INDIANA
Indiana University School of Medicine
Medicine-Pediatrics
BCM-1

IOWA

KANSAS
U Kansas School of Medicine-Wichita
Family Medicine C
BCM-2

U Kansas School of Medicine-Kansas City
Otolaryngology C
BCM-1

KENTUCKY

LOUISIANA

MAINE

MARYLAND

MASSACHUSETTS
Boston University Medical Center
Internal Medicine C
BCM-1

Surgery-Preliminary
BCM-1

Cambridge Hospital
Transitional
BCM-1

B I Deaconess Medical Center
Surgery-Preliminary
BCM-1

St. Vincent Hospital-Worcester
Medicine-Preliminary
BCM-1

Massachusetts General Hospital
Orthopaedic Surgery C
BCM-1

Otolaryngology C
BCM-1

TEXAS
Austin Medical Education Programs
Psychiatry C
BCM-1

UT SW Med. Sch. - Dallas
Internal Medicine C
BCM-1

Obstetrics & Gynecology
BCM-2

Pathology C
BCM-1

University of Texas Health Science Center -Houston
Emergency Medicine C
BCM-2

University of Texas Medical Branch-Galveston
Orthopaedic Surgery C
BCM-1

Medicine-Preliminary
BCM-1

University Texas Health Science Center-San Antonio
Family Medicine
BCM-1

Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation C
BCM-1

John Peter Smith Hospital
Orthopaedic Surgery
BCM-1

Texas A&M--Scott and White
Internal Medicine C
BCM-1

Emergency Medicine C
BCM-1

The Methodist Hospital-Houston
Transitional
BCM-6

Obstetrics & Gynecology C
BCM-1

Texas Tech Lubbock
Orthopaedic Surgery C
BCM-1





MICHIGAN
Michigan State University-Kalamazoo
Transitional
BCM-1

U Michigan Hospital-Ann Arbor
Anesthesiology C
BCM-1

Otolaryngology C
BCM-1

Plastic Surgery
BCM-1

Psychiatry C
BCM-1

St. Joseph Mercy-Ann Arbor
Internal Medicine-P
BCM-1

MINNESOTA

MISSISSIPPI

MISSOURI

MONTANA

NEBRASKA

NEVADA

NEW HAMPSHIRE

NEW JERSEY
University of Medicine & Dentistry of New Jersey
Orthopaedic Surgery
BCM-1

NEW MEXICO

NEW YORK
Columbia University Medical Center NYP
BCM-1

NORTH CAROLINA
University of North Carolina Hospitals
Emergency Medicine C
BCM-1

Internal Medicine-P
BCM-1

General Surgery C
BCM-1

Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center-NC
Medicine-Preliminary
BCM-2

NORTH DAKOTA

OHIO

OKLAHOMA
University of Oklahoma COM-OK City
Internal Medicine-Preliminary
BCM-1

OHIO
Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center
Pediatrics
BCM-1

OREGON
Oregon Health & Science University
General Surgery C
BCM-1

PENNSYLVANIA
University of Pennsylvania Medical Center Education Prog.
Internal Medicine C
BCM-1

Plastic Surgery C
BCM-1

Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania
Obstetrics & Gynecology C
BCM-1

RHODE ISLAND
Women's & Infants Hospital
Obstetrics & Gynecology C
BCM-1

SOUTH CAROLINA

SOUTH DAKOTA

TENNESSEE
Vanderbilt University Medical Center
Anesthesiology C
BCM-1

Internal Medicine C
BCM-1

U Tennessee College of Medicine-Memphis
Otolaryngology C
BCM-1

UTAH
University of Utah Affiliated Hospitals
Pediatrics
BCM-1

VERMONT

VIRGINIA

WASHINGTON
University of Washington Affiliated Hospitals
Pediatrics C
BCM-2

WEST VIRGINIA

WISCONSIN
Medical College of Wisconsin Affiliated Hosp.
Otolaryngology
BCM-1

Plastic Surgery C
BCM-1

WYOMING

I am wondering if this BAYLOR list is correct. 8 ENTs, 7 Orthos, no Neurosurgery, no Radiology, 13 medicine???

 

[jbz24]

Something is off with it. Plus it's last year's.

 

[Pharmacol90]

Does anyone on this thread have access to NJMS residency list? If yes, could you please post it? On UMDNJ website, I can only find a generic list and not a detailed one for 2010 yet. Thanks!

 

[meds4school]

Anyone have LSU's match list ?

 

[Mandiblespeaks]

 

[runawaytrain]

UMDNJ New Jersey Medical School's match list:
http://njms.umdnj.edu/education/prospective/view_admissions.cfm
(click on 2010 Match Report Specialty)

 

[jboz]

UMDNJ New Jersey Medical School's match list:
http://njms.umdnj.edu/education/prospective/view_admissions.cfm
(click on 2010 Match Report Specialty)

Not google chrome-friendly at all. Use firefox/IE 7

 

[cgk]

Does anyone have their 2010 match List? Couldn't fine it on their website. thanks so much!!

 

[MrBurns10]

Here is this year's match list (sorry if it was already posted). Numbers by the specialty indicate the number of students who matched, and numbers by the individual programs indicate the number of students who matched there (obviously). I mentioned Duke first because so many of us are staying here (30 out of 95!) and then went alphabetical from there.

Anesthesiology (7)
Duke (3)
Barnes-Jewish (WUSTL)
Miami
OHSU
Stanford

Dermatology (4)
Duke
Case Western
Johns Hopkins
U of Washington

Emergency Medicine (6)
Arizona
Cincinnati
Nevada
Stanford
St. Luke's-Roosevelt
UNC

Emergency Medicine/Internal Medicine (1)
Hennepin County Hospital

Family Medicine (1)
Columbia

General Surgery (6)
Duke (2)
Barnes-Jewish (WUSTL)
Indiana
Mass General
OHSU

Internal Medicine (16)
Duke (6)
Brigham and Women's
Mass General (Heme/Onc fast track)
Mt. Sinai
NYU
UCSF
U of Massachusetts
U of Michigan
U of Washington
Vanderbilt
Wake Forest (primary care)

Internal Medicine/Pediatrics (2)
Duke
Tulane

Internal Medicine/Psychiatry (2)
Duke (2)

Neurosurgery (1)
U of Virginia

Obstetrics/Gynecology (3)
Duke
Indiana
UCLA

Ophthalmology (12)
Duke (2)
Howard
Johns Hopkins
LSU-NO (Oschner)
NYU
UCLA (2)
U of Pennsylvania
U of Texas-Southwestern
U of Washington
Vanderbilt

Orthopedic Surgery (6)
Duke (3)
Barnes-Jewish (WUSTL)
Eisenhower Army Hospital
U of South Florida

Otolaryngology (1)
Johns Hopkins

Pathology (4)
Duke
Mass General
Stanford
UCSF

Pediatrics (6)
Duke
Baylor (Global Health)
Stanford (2)
St. Louis Children's
U of Washington

Plastic Surgery (3)
Barnes-Jewish (WUSTL)
Texas A&M
Naval Hospital- San Diego

Psychiatry (3)
Harvard-Longwood (Brigham Hospital)
Johns Hopkins
UC-San Diego

Radiology-Diagnostic (8)
Duke (3)
Allegheny General Hosp
Emory
Stanford
U of Washington
William Beaumont

Radiation Oncology (2)
Duke (2)

Urology (2)
Duke
U of Iowa

 

[EndSong]

Any1 got UCLA's match list? BUMP!

 

[drdude21]

does anyone have usc-keck?

 

[psipsina]

Anyone have LSU's match list ?

One was sent out today but its missing alot of info. I know a few people who got urology or optho and its only listing their prelim years and I don't know many of the other's matches to fill in the blanks Is there any specialty you're interested in specifically?

 

[metallica81788]

One was sent out today but its missing alot of info. I know a few people who got urology or optho and its only listing their prelim years and I don't know many of the other's matches to fill in the blanks Is there any specialty you're interested in specifically?

I would like to know how LSU did with Ortho, ENT and I guess some of the other competitive ones if you could get those. Thanks.

 

[meds4school]

I was wondering where people matched in psych from LSU. Thanks .

 

[psipsina]

I would like to know how LSU did with Ortho, ENT and I guess some of the other competitive ones if you could get those. Thanks.

Ortho: LSU (2)
Alabama
SIU (chicago)
Tulane (2)
BU
Emory

ENT: LSU (2)

Integrated Plastics: Wake Forest
UT (galveston)

Integrated Vascular: Mt. Sinai

Psych: LSU (3)
Barnes (MD)
Colorado
Medical Univ of SC
Arkansas

There are optho, urology and ent matches that aren't showing up on the list (they are only showing the prelims). I know of 4 optho, 2 uro and 1 ent that aren't showing but I can't remember where they matched.

 

[teenmachinery1]

does anyone have usc-keck?

 

[metallica81788]

Ortho: LSU (2)
Alabama
SIU (chicago)
Tulane (2)
BU
Emory

ENT: LSU (2)

Integrated Plastics: Wake Forest
UT (galveston)

Integrated Vascular: Mt. Sinai

Psych: LSU (3)
Barnes (MD)
Colorado
Medical Univ of SC
Arkansas

There are optho, urology and ent matches that aren't showing up on the list (they are only showing the prelims). I know of 4 optho, 2 uro and 1 ent that aren't showing but I can't remember where they matched.

Thanks a lot.

 

[meds4school]

Ortho: LSU (2)
Alabama
SIU (chicago)
Tulane (2)
BU
Emory

ENT: LSU (2)

Integrated Plastics: Wake Forest
UT (galveston)

Integrated Vascular: Mt. Sinai

Psych: LSU (3)
Barnes (MD)
Colorado
Medical Univ of SC
Arkansas

There are optho, urology and ent matches that aren't showing up on the list (they are only showing the prelims). I know of 4 optho, 2 uro and 1 ent that aren't showing but I can't remember where they matched.

Thanks

 

[ButImLETired]

Here is this year's match list (sorry if it was already posted). Numbers by the specialty indicate the number of students who matched, and numbers by the individual programs indicate the number of students who matched there (obviously). I mentioned Duke first because so many of us are staying here (30 out of 95!) and then went alphabetical from there.

Anesthesiology (7)
Duke (3)
Barnes-Jewish (WUSTL)
Miami
OHSU
Stanford

Dermatology (4)
Duke
Case Western
Johns Hopkins
U of Washington

Emergency Medicine (6)
Arizona
Cincinnati
Nevada
Stanford
St. Luke’s-Roosevelt
UNC

Emergency Medicine/Internal Medicine (1)
Hennepin County Hospital

Family Medicine (1)
Columbia

General Surgery (6)
Duke (2)
Barnes-Jewish (WUSTL)
Indiana
Mass General
OHSU

Internal Medicine (16)
Duke (6)
Brigham and Women’s
Mass General (Heme/Onc fast track)
Mt. Sinai
NYU
UCSF
U of Massachusetts
U of Michigan
U of Washington
Vanderbilt
Wake Forest (primary care)

Internal Medicine/Pediatrics (2)
Duke
Tulane

Internal Medicine/Psychiatry (2)
Duke (2)

Neurosurgery (1)
U of Virginia

Obstetrics/Gynecology (3)
Duke
Indiana
UCLA

Ophthalmology (12)
Duke (2)
Howard
Johns Hopkins
LSU-NO (Oschner)
NYU
UCLA (2)
U of Pennsylvania
U of Texas-Southwestern
U of Washington
Vanderbilt

Orthopedic Surgery (6)
Duke (3)
Barnes-Jewish (WUSTL)
Eisenhower Army Hospital
U of South Florida

Otolaryngology (1)
Johns Hopkins

Pathology (4)
Duke
Mass General
Stanford
UCSF

Pediatrics (6)
Duke
Baylor (Global Health)
Stanford (2)
St. Louis Children’s
U of Washington

Plastic Surgery (3)
Barnes-Jewish (WUSTL)
Texas A&M
Naval Hospital- San Diego

Psychiatry (3)
Harvard-Longwood (Brigham Hospital)
Johns Hopkins
UC-San Diego

Radiology-Diagnostic (8)
Duke (3)
Allegheny General Hosp
Emory
Stanford
U of Washington
William Beaumont

Radiation Oncology (2)
Duke (2)

Urology (2)
Duke
U of Iowa

Y'all always have a ton of ophtho matches. I heard you have amazing and really inspiring ophtho people there and that's why you often have so many. Is that the case?

 

[MrBurns10]

Y'all always have a ton of ophtho matches. I heard you have amazing and really inspiring ophtho people there and that's why you often have so many. Is that the case?

Honestly, I have no idea. Duke does have a top-notch ophtho department, and with the year of research built in, there is a lot of ability to work with mentors that inspire you. So that might be part of it. I think it's also that we can take 2 weeks of ophtho as part of our surgery rotation (aside from 3 electives where people can do ophtho), so maybe there's more exposure here than at some other schools. Plus, it's like surgery-lite! So if you like surgery but not surgery. then ophtho is a good field.

Just some thoughts from a person who is kinda grossed out by the eye

 

[southerncomfort]

Ortho: LSU (2)
Alabama
SIU (chicago)
Tulane (2)
BU
Emory

ENT: LSU (2)

Integrated Plastics: Wake Forest
UT (galveston)

Integrated Vascular: Mt. Sinai

Psych: LSU (3)
Barnes (MD)
Colorado
Medical Univ of SC
Arkansas

There are optho, urology and ent matches that aren't showing up on the list (they are only showing the prelims). I know of 4 optho, 2 uro and 1 ent that aren't showing but I can't remember where they matched.

Ophtho: LSU (3), UT-Southwestern (1)
Urology: UT Memphis, UTMB, U South Florida, LSU/Ochsner, plus one more that I can't remember
Derm: LSU (3)
Other specialties: Many are staying in-state, but those going elsewhere matched all over the country-- Barnes-Jewish (STL), Jackson (MIA), Duke, UNC, UAMS, UNM, Colorado, Sacramento, San Diego, Fresno, Portland, Tufts, Maine, Richmond/VCU, Minneapolis, Johns Hopkins, Mt Sinai, NYC, CT, etc. I think most people were able to land where they wanted, which is all that really matters when you're matching.

 

[psipsina]

Ophtho: LSU (3), UT-Southwestern (1)
Urology: UT Memphis, UTMB, U South Florida, LSU/Ochsner, plus one more that I can't remember
Derm: LSU (3)
Other specialties: Many are staying in-state, but those going elsewhere matched all over the country-- Barnes-Jewish (STL), Jackson (MIA), Duke, UNC, UAMS, UNM, Colorado, Sacramento, San Diego, Fresno, Portland, Tufts, Maine, Richmond/VCU, Minneapolis, Johns Hopkins, Mt Sinai, NYC, CT, etc. I think most people were able to land where they wanted, which is all that really matters when you're matching.

Thanks

 

[UTSW2010]

Ophtho: LSU (3), UT-Southwestern (1)
Urology: UT Memphis, UTMB, U South Florida, LSU/Ochsner, plus one more that I can't remember
Derm: LSU (3)
Other specialties: Many are staying in-state, but those going elsewhere matched all over the country-- Barnes-Jewish (STL), Jackson (MIA), Duke, UNC, UAMS, UNM, Colorado, Sacramento, San Diego, Fresno, Portland, Tufts, Maine, Richmond/VCU, Minneapolis, Johns Hopkins, Mt Sinai, NYC, CT, etc. I think most people were able to land where they wanted, which is all that really matters when you're matching.

How did they do for Anesthesia, Radiology and Neurosurgery?

 

[jbz24]

Just copying and pasting from another thread.

Associate (1)
McKinsey & Co-Washington, DC

Assitant Professor (1)
MIT-Cambridge, MA

Anesthesiology (6)
Mass General Hospital-Boston, MA (2)
Mt Sinai Hospital-NY, NY
U Alabama Med Ctr-Birmingham, AL
Medical Univ of SC-Charleston, SC
NYP Hosp-Columbia Univ Med Ctr-NY, NY

Dermatology (6)
Hosp of the Univ of PA-Philadelphia, PA (2)
UC San Diego Med Ctr-San Diego, CA
Mass General Hospital-Boston, MA
Henry Ford Hlth Sci Ctr-Detroit, MI
UCSF-San Francisco, CA (Dermatology/2+2/Scientists)

Internal Medicine (30)
Brigham & Women's-Boston, MA 9
Mass General Hospital-Boston, MA 6
NYP Hosp-Columbia Univ Med Ctr-NY, NY
UCSF-San Francisco, CA 6
NYP Hosp-Weill Cornell Med Ctr-NY, NY 3
U Washington Affil Hosps-Seattle, WA
Beth Israel Deaconess Med Ctr-Boston, MA
U Southern California-Los Angeles, CA
Mt Sinai Hospital-NY, NY
Rush University Med Ctr-Chicago, IL

Family Medicine (4)
NYP Hosp-Columbia Univ Med Ctr-NY, NY
Sutter Med Ctr of Santa Rosa-Santa Rosa, CA
Ventura Cnty Med Ctr-Ventura, CA
O'Connor Hospital-San Jose, CA

Pediatrics (15)
UCSF-San Francisco, CA
Childrens Hospital-Boston, MA 5
Mt Sinai Hospital-NY, NY
Hosp of the Univ of PA-Philadelphia, PA
E Carolina U Brody SOM-Greenville, NC
Johns Hopkins Hosp-Baltimore, MD
U Colorado SOM-Denver, CO
Baylor Coll Med-Houston, TX
Childrens Hospital-Philadelphia, PA
NYP Hosp-Columbia Univ Med Ctr-NY, NY
U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor, MI

Neurological Surgery (7)
Mass General Hospital-Boston, MA 2
Emory Univ SOM-Atlanta, GA
Mayo School of Grad Med Educ-Rochester, MN
U Washington Affil Hosps-Seattle, WA
Stanford Univ Progs-Stanford, CA
NYP Hosp-Weill Cornell Med Ctr-NY, NY

Ob/Gyn (6)
U Michigan Hosps-Ann Arbor, MI
U Washington Affil Hosps-Seattle, WA
Brigham & Women's-Boston, MA 2
Duke Univ Med Ctr-Durham, NC
Northwestern McGaw/NMH/VA-Chicago, IL

Radiation Oncology (5)
Johns Hopkins Hosp-Baltimore, MD
Cleveland Clinic Fdn-Cleveland, OH
UCSF-San Francisco, CA
Brigham & Women's-Boston, MA 2

Psychiatry (7)
San Mateo Behav Hlth & Recovery Svcs-San Mateo, CA
NYP Hosp-Columbia Univ Med Ctr-NY, NY
Oregon Health & Science Univ-Portland, OR
Hosp of the Univ of PA-Philadelphia, PA
NYU School of Med-NY, NY
Mass General Hospital-Boston, MA
Cambridge Health Alliance-Cambridge, MA

Otolaryngology (2)
UCLA Medical Center-Los Angeles, CA
Oregon Health & Science Univ-Portland, OR

Ophthalmology (6)
UC Irvine-Orange, CA
Mass Eye & Ear Infirmary-Boston, MA 3
UCSF-San Francisco, CA
Cleveland Clinic-Cleveland, OH

Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery (3)
Mass General Hospital-Boston, MA 3

General Surgery (6)
Brigham & Women's-Boston, MA
Stanford Univ Progs-Stanford, CA 2
Swedish Medical Ctr-Seattle, WA
Mass General Hospital-Boston, MA 2

Emergency Medicine (7)
UCLA Medical Center-Los Angeles, CA
Stanford Univ Progs-Stanford, CA
U Mass Med School-Worcester, MA
U New Mexico SOM-Albuquerque, NM
Denver Health Med Ctr-Denver, CO
Oregon Health & Science Univ-Portland, OR 2

Phys Medicine & Rehab (7)
Case Western/M H Med Ct-Cleveland, OH
VA Greater LA Hlth Sys-Los Angeles, CA

Orthopaedic Surgery (8)
U Washington Affil Hosps-Seattle, WA
UCSF-San Francisco, CA
NYP Hosp-Columbia Univ Med Ctr-NY, NY
Emory Univ SOM-Atlanta, GA
Mass General Hospital-Boston, MA 4

Radiology (11)
UP Med Ctr Med Ed Prog-Pittsburgh, PA
Mass General Hospital-Boston, MA 3
Hosp of the Univ of PA-Philadelphia, PA 2
Yale-New Haven Hosp-New Haven, CT
Beth Israel Deaconess Med Ctr-Boston, MA
Johns Hopkins Hosp-Baltimore, MD
U Texas HSC-San Antonio, TX
NYP Hosp-Weill Cornell Med Ctr-NY, NY

Neurology (6)
NYP Hosp-Columbia Univ Med Ctr-NY, NY
Harvard/Children's/BIDMC-Boston, MA 3
Mass General Hospital-Boston, MA
UCSF-San Francisco, CA

 

[ScootDoc]

...

 

[jackson1]

Anyone have Penn State's match list?

http://pennstatehershey.org/web/md/studentaffairs/residency/matchday

 

[Law2Doc]

I can't for the life of me understand why a bunch of PRE-meds are so interested in match results that will be anywhere from 4-8yrs old by the time you will be anywhere near the process. Silly!

SD out

Not only that, the lists reflect choices made by people based on factors you aren't privy to, and nothing else. If you are looking at lists out of a notion that this is a better school for X, or is a better school because they got more people into ROAD etc, then you missed the ball. Can't totally blame the premeds -- the schools circulate these things along with admissions material so premeds think they are supposed to factor this in. But in general it's a garbage in, garbage out kind of analysis for reasons I have made clear earlier in this thread and in multiple other threads. In a few years you'll see what I'm saying, but by then you will already be in a med school you chose based on this kind of faulty data.

 

[jboz]

I can't for the life of me understand why a bunch of PRE-meds are so interested in match results that will be anywhere from 4-8yrs old by the time you will be anywhere near the process. Silly!

SD out

interesting? curious? entertaining?

please don't come back

 

[Mandiblespeaks]

interesting? curious? entertaining?

please don't come back

+1

You should SCOOT doc

 

[loljkttyl]

In retrospect, I think match lists are actually helpful to some extent in comparing schools. While the people going into some specialties tend to vary each year, there are some trends that do not vary from year to year...and I'm not really sure why. Perhaps there is earlier exposure to some specialties or program directors in certain departments are really charismatic/enthusiastic at some schools. Some random associations that pop into my head are... urology @ Hopkins, neurosurgery @ Columbia, anesthesiology @ Sinai, radiology @ NYMC, primary care @ UMass, etc, etc. Grossly, more prestigious med school have more prestigious residencies so you can actually skim a match list to get a rough idea of whether it is impressive, above avg, avg, or below avg, but probably nothing more than that. Some exceptions to keep in the back of your mind... St. Joseph's is one of the top neurosurgery programs, UMiami has one of the top ophtho programs, NYU and Jefferson have really strong radiology programs, etc. That said, you can still use match lists to get a rough sense of the strength of the applicants coming out of each med school and you can get a rough sense of the region where those grads will do residency in (though you cannot get a sense of what factors influenced the applicant to apply to a certain region). I would also argue to focus more on the specialties that the applicants are matching into rather than the prestige of the hospital names. Schools w/ more applicants matching into competitive specialties (plastics, derm, rads/rad onc, ophtho, ENT, urology, neurosurgery, ortho, urology) are more impressive than schools w/ more family medicine, psych, etc. Now, if one school has 1 derm one yr and 0 derm another yr, that could just be b/c no one that year applied to derm. But if there is a school that consistently matches 3-5 derm a year, then there is a trend that you should make a note of. The sad reality is that the students that are killing their board exams, acing their clerkships, and getting AOA do tend to gravitate to the more competitive specialties for better compensation/lifestyle. Of course, there are MANY exceptions (there are many smart/intelligent people going into internal medicine, peds, etc.), but I'm just saying...if one did want to try to interpret match lists...this is how you would go about doing it in a systematic fashion. Please don't flame me...I'm only try to shed more light on the situation after having gone through this whole process myself Hope that helps!

 

[thesauce]

In retrospect, I think match lists are actually helpful to some extent in comparing schools. While the people going into some specialties tend to vary each year, there are some trends that do not vary from year to year...and I'm not really sure why. Perhaps there is earlier exposure to some specialties or program directors in certain departments are really charismatic/enthusiastic at some schools. Some random associations that pop into my head are... urology @ Hopkins, neurosurgery @ Columbia, anesthesiology @ Sinai, radiology @ NYMC, primary care @ UMass, etc, etc. Grossly, more prestigious med school have more prestigious residencies so you can actually skim a match list to get a rough idea of whether it is impressive, above avg, avg, or below avg, but probably nothing more than that. Some exceptions to keep in the back of your mind... St. Joseph's is one of the top neurosurgery programs, UMiami has one of the top ophtho programs, NYU and Jefferson have really strong radiology programs, etc. That said, you can still use match lists to get a rough sense of the strength of the applicants coming out of each med school and you can get a rough sense of the region where those grads will do residency in (though you cannot get a sense of what factors influenced the applicant to apply to a certain region). I would also argue to focus more on the specialties that the applicants are matching into rather than the prestige of the hospital names. Schools w/ more applicants matching into competitive specialties (plastics, derm, rads/rad onc, ophtho, ENT, urology, neurosurgery, ortho, urology) are more impressive than schools w/ more family medicine, psych, etc. Now, if one school has 1 derm one yr and 0 derm another yr, that could just be b/c no one that year applied to derm. But if there is a school that consistently matches 3-5 derm a year, then there is a trend that you should make a note of. The sad reality is that the students that are killing their board exams, acing their clerkships, and getting AOA do tend to gravitate to the more competitive specialties for better compensation/lifestyle. Of course, there are MANY exceptions (there are many smart/intelligent people going into internal medicine, peds, etc.), but I'm just saying...if one did want to try to interpret match lists...this is how you would go about doing it in a systematic fashion. Please don't flame me...I'm only try to shed more light on the situation after having gone through this whole process myself Hope that helps!

I think this is a major flaw in your argument. There's a different list of top programs for each specialty. They don't follow USNWR rankings. In my specialty, several of the big name medical schools have mediocre programs and the best programs are places most students haven't heard of. This is true for other specialties as well.

 

[Law2Doc]

I think this is a major flaw in your argument. There's a different list of top programs for each specialty. They don't follow USNWR rankings. In my specialty, several of the big name medical schools have mediocre programs and the best programs are places most students haven't heard of. This is true for other specialties as well.

Agreed. In general, people only will know the hierarchy in the field they ultimately choose to pursue, because every list is different, and it's a word of mouth thing you only will learn by sitting down with mentors in the field. So the dude who goes into neurology is poorly suited to tell you if his classmates who went into surgery did well or poorly. In every field there is a different hierarchy, not tied to US News. There are also programs known to be malignant, which, although the name might sound good, would be programs that would be everyone's last choice when ranking if they knew the scoop. So you can't just look at a list and say, "gee this guy got into XYZ, that's amazing" because while that may be true in a couple of fields, it may be far from "amazing" in most. As a premed you won't know. As a med student going into any other specialty, you won't know. So it's really a waste of your time trying to gauge good from bad match lists. You are trying to do an analysis with faulty data.

I also disagree with the notion that you can look at a place with a lot of ROAD specialties and by counting up the number of folks who go into these versus primary care, get any sort of sense of whether the program is "better". The problem with this is that matching is not about getting the most prestigious thing you can get. It is about personal choice of the folks who entered the match. EVERY YEAR at EVERY med school some of the top students will go into IM, surgery, peds etc. Why? Because that's what interests them. You don't go into derm unless you want to be a dermatologist. Nobody pats you on the back and says, "amazing, you are a dermatologist, that is SOOO cool" once you leave med school. You actually have to like what you choose because this is the career you are going to have for the next 40 years. So if you like working with kids, you go into peds, even if you could get plastics. Or if you think rheumatology is great, you maybe go into IM despite having the numbers for derm or rads. That's the way it works. It's no longer the concept that people are trying to get into something because it's prestigious or high ranked, people are truly trying to get into something because they can see themselves doing it for the next 4 decades. Now sure, things like lifestyle factor in, but there are lifestyle fields all over the spectrum (the PM&R doc often logs the same as the derm doc), but in most cases it's really going to be about personal choice. And to analyze that usefully, you sort of have to know about the individuals in the class. And the match list only tells you where they ended up, not why.

It also doesn't tell you if this was their dream ranking, or their unfortunate fallback. A premed looking at a list might find it amazing, but the individuals in a given class may all have fallen to the 8th or 10th choice of the places that interviewed them. They may have wanted to interview at a dozen places that didn't reciprocate, and of the ones that did interview, they got passed over by half a dozen of them. So for them the match perhaps was awful and they feel forced to go to a program that never was high on their list. Meanwhile some foolish premed is looking at the list and saying, "boy this school is great, look at all the great places these people got into". It's only a good match if you wanted it. So in truth, the school where more of its grads went into primary care but got what they wanted had a much better match than the place which had more competitive specialties listed, but they were far from anyone's first choice, and many are malignant. And again, as a premed you don't know. You come away thinking what a great list, while match day at the school actually has the tone of a funeral procession.

 

[loljkttyl]

EVERY YEAR at EVERY med school some of the top students will go into IM, surgery, peds etc. Why? Because that's what interests them.

I agree with this statement, and I even mentioned it in my post: You cannot assume some people going into a less competitive specialty did not perform as well as his peers b/c it is a sample size of n=1...BUT if you look at an entire class of sample size 100-150 over like the past 2-3 years, you can start making some ROUGH generalizations with a sample size of 300+.

I'd also like to point out that IM is a tricky specialty to draw conclusions from on a match list because many people that go into IM have no intention of going into primary care, but rather aspire to be future cardiologists or GI doctors.

You don't go into derm unless you want to be a dermatologist. Nobody pats you on the back and says, "amazing, you are a dermatologist, that is SOOO cool" once you leave med school. You actually have to like what you choose because this is the career you are going to have for the next 40 years.

I agree with this statement, BUT I would like to point out that many times, students are equally "interested" in like 3 different specialties and then choose the one with the best lifestyle/compensation. I'm not going into derm, but I'll use it as an example. It is uncommon for someone to choose derm solely for the lifestyle. But let's say they are could picture themselves in family medicine, psych, or derm, more often than not that top student will gravitate toward derm if they have the grades/board scores. As I said, it's not something that I admire or condone, but I've observed it firsthand among my peers at other medical schools.

 

[Law2Doc]

I agree with this statement, and I even mentioned it in my post: You cannot assume some people going into a less competitive specialty did not perform as well as his peers b/c it is a sample size of n=1...BUT if you look at an entire class of sample size 100-150 over like the past 2-3 years, you can start making some ROUGH generalizations with a sample size of 300+.

I'd also like to point out that IM is a tricky specialty to draw conclusions from on a match list because many people that go into IM have no intention of going into primary care, but rather aspire to be future cardiologists or GI doctors.

I agree with this statement, BUT I would like to point out that many times, students are equally "interested" in like 3 different specialties and then choose the one with the best lifestyle/compensation. I'm not going into derm, but I'll use it as an example. It is uncommon for someone to choose derm solely for the lifestyle. But let's say they are could picture themselves in family medicine, psych, or derm, more often than not that top student will gravitate toward derm if they have the grades/board scores. As I said, it's not something that I admire or condone, but I've observed it firsthand among my peers at other medical schools.

I get what you are saying, but my point is really that the match lists more often than not don't tell you what you think they do. You can "observe it firsthand" because you know what your peers were leaning towards. Some premed looking at a list of names cannot. He doesn't know if the person who picked IM did so because he defaulted into a primary care field, or if he wants GI, or if he simply liked IM and turned down derm and other competitive things he had the grades for. Point is, you cannot know, and the match list really just tells you the end result, based on choices made, not what the school helps people along to or that the school is particularly good for XYZ.

I'll give you another example (and one based on reality). Say school X gets 20 people into the ROAD specialties and all 20 are in the top 15% of the class. School Y gets 15 people into the ROAD specialties and many are not in the top 15% of the class. Happens like this at a few places every year. Are you seriously going to tell me that School X is better for ROAD specialties simply because you count them up and there are more? Or is the place where the non-superstars are getting a look, better? Yet with the match list, you don't get to know which is which, you only get to sum them up.

This is but one of many examples of why the match list doesn't tell you what you think it might. More important are the fact that (1) you as a premed don't know what is good versus malignant, or the hierarchy of the programs in each specialty (and as a med student/resident probably still don't know the hierarchy or dirt about programs outside of your field). (2) you don't know what people wanted, only what they got. So if someone applied to 20 places, ended up with interviews at the least desirable 10, and matched into the one that was dead last on his list, you don't know that he considers it a rotten match, you just see "anesthesiology" etc and figure it must be good. (3) the distribution of specialty vs not changes year after year and the fact that a class had 10 people go into gas may simply mean that more people wanted to go into gas that year, not that they couldn't get derm or that they were better than the same number of people who chose IM the year before. The short of it is that match lists tell you nothing. They give you an end result without knowing what came before -- what interests the class had, what family pull the class had, and what places are good vs malignant, high ranked vs dregs. Basically I liken analyzing a match list to watching the last 2 minutes of a movie, without the sound, and trying to figure out what the movie was about. In more cases than not, you will be dead wrong. Same with match list interpretation.

You can say "oh it will at least give you a 'general idea'" as much as you want, but it really won't. For it to give a general idea, you have to have a context of data in which to interpret. You don't know the people matching's desires, you don't know which programs are good. You are trying to shoehorn some notion that a place that has more people matching into X is better for X, but it really doesn't work that way most of the time, and not all X's are equivalent to boot. Waste of time. Not much more I can say about it. We all looked at match lists as premeds, and almost all come to realize we were *****s for incorporating this into our school choice analysis.

 

[loljkttyl]

you don't know what people wanted, only what they got. So if someone applied to 20 places, ended up with interviews at the least desirable 10, and matched into the one that was dead last on his list, you don't know that he considers it a rotten match, you just see "anesthesiology" etc and figure it must be good.

Ok, we'll agree to disagree on the value of a match list On a side note, I just wanted to point out that, although a ROAD specialty, anesthesiology is not an uber-competitive specialty. The avg board score is surprisingly similar to IM. IF (big emphasis on the "if"...lol) you did want to grossly compare the matching potential of med schools on a very superficial level, you should really count up the % of plastic surgery and derm matches since they have the highest avg step 1 board scores according to the AAMC... followed by ENT/neurosurgery/rad onc/rads/ophtho... followed by everything else (source: www.nrmp.org/data/chartingoutcomes2009v3.pdf)

 

[GMed]

Anyone got Hopkins Match list?

 

[jbz24]

Anyone got Hopkins Match list?

Check the first page of the thread.

 

[GMed]

Have to agree with loljkttyl on the match list being a good indicator of where a student might end up for residency. I'm sure Law2Doc will disagree so I don't need another regurgitation of his assessment. Just putting in a head count here.

Also food for thought:
Just because someone gets their #1 choice on their rank list does not mean they are happy with it. Many medical students don't get the interviews they want more often than not, so whether its someone's #1 choice is also relatively meaningless.

Likewise if someone say had 10 interviews for Derm and they got their last one, I'm sure they would be ecstatic because they are in DERM. Or if someone ranked 6 and the match list went like this: MGH, Brigham, Hopkins, UCSF, Columbia, and Duke, I'm sure the person with his last match choice is not too heart broken over it. So saying someone got their last choice and thats horrible is also relatively meaningless.

 

[GMed]

Check the first page of the thread.

Thanks

 

[locus000]

USFCOM 2010 Match list
http://health.usf.edu/nocms/publicaffairs/now/pdfs/Match_List_2010.pdf

FSUCOM 2010 Match list
http://med.fsu.edu/admission/match/2010.pdf

 

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Surgery-Preliminary Temple Univ Hosp-PA
Surgery-Preliminary Temple Univ Hosp-PA
Surgery-Preliminary U Vermont
Plastic Surgery Virginia Commonwealth U Hlth Sys
Transitional Carilion Clinic-Virginia Tech Carilion SOM
Transitional Crozer-Chester Med Ctr-PA
Transitional Crozer-Chester Med Ctr-PA
Transitional Crozer-Chester Med Ctr-PA
Transitional Intermountain Medical Center
Transitional Lehigh Valley Hosp-PA
Transitional Reading Hospital Med Ctr-PA
Transitional University of Hawaii
Transitional Western Pennsylvania Hosp
Urology Temple Univ Hosp-PA

 

[footballyus]

Baylor?

 

[mitzie921]

does anyone have the match lists for university of toledo or cincinnati?