Pre-discharge bilirubin measurement: an SDN poll

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What is your management of full-term babies related to jaundice?

  • We obtain blood for bili measurements before d/c on all babies

    Votes: 4 16.0%
  • We do transcutaneous measurements with blood backup as needed

    Votes: 14 56.0%
  • We use clinical assessment and then decide who gets bili measurements

    Votes: 6 24.0%
  • We do exchange transfusions on all babies in the nursery.

    Votes: 1 4.0%

  • Total voters
    25
  • Poll closed .

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The October 2009 Pediatrics has a range of articles and opinions about management of jaundice. I can't repost, but to summarize, there are a couple of original research articles about the potential benefits/risks of predischarge bili measurements and then several opinion pieces about it.

A range of opinions are expressed both pro and con routine predischarge bili measurement either transcutaneously or by blood sample.

This is a huge topic to anyone doing general pedi (as well as neo) and the articles should all be read so each person can have their view.

My poll is not about what you THINK should be done (you can write that in a post). The poll is about what your institution actually does.
 
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My wife says her school's main hospital does B. She started to explain what that meant, but then I turned the TV louder. 😀
 
My group covers several nurseries and we do a Tc bili on every baby at 36 hours. If it's greater than 12, a heel stick blood sample is taken. Infants who are DAT positive get a Tc done at 24 hours, but some do blood at that time instead. I'm more a hospitalist however, and not a PCP.

What's your take on this practice OBP? I'd rather know if someone is creeping up there and getting close to needing phototherapy, especially if I'm discharging them and deciding on follow up. Usually I can get kids seen the next day by a PCP. On other hand, most of these bilis are normal in term low risk infants and we don't do much with the number other than watch.
 
Every kid in our nursery gets a serum bili at 24HOL with the newborn screen. DAT positive kids get a serum bili at 6HOL and a TCB at 12 and 18HOL if indicated.

I hate hyperbili. I hate managing/worrying about bilirubin!

But I also hate that kid I saw that was not quite a vegetable because he got kernicterus as a baby in Mexico.
 
I'll post some comments later today or tomorrow. However, for those not familiar with the terms, DAT = direct antiglobulin (Coomb's) test, i.e. a blood incompatibility. HOL = hour of life.

If any of you get a chance to read the 3 opinion pieces in Pediatrics and comment, that would be great. They cover the whole range of views and are all very well written and to the point.

AttyHubby, although neonatal jaundice may not seem to connect to YOU much, you might actually look at the opinion pieces. One of the authors makes a major issue that their opinion is significantly informed by their personal experience as an expert witness in these legal cases. Although I suspect this is not uncommon, it is unusual to see this (personal experience as an expert witness) recognized in the medical literature as informing decision making.

Finally, I'm sorry no one has gone for routine exchanges. Nothing like spending 3 hours calling out "15 mL in" and "15 mL out". Those were the days, my friends. Well, actually, mostly exchanges were done in the middle of the night.😴😴
 
Finally, I'm sorry no one has gone for routine exchanges. Nothing like spending 3 hours calling out "15 mL in" and "15 mL out". Those were the days, my friends. Well, actually, mostly exchanges were done in the middle of the night.😴😴

I've done three during residency and the first one was my first night of call ever. 😱

The last one I did ended up being damaged. Baby was DAT positive, and left the nursery with a rising bili. She was told to follow up the next day with her PCP and didn't. Two weeks later the kid showed up in the ED, dehydrated, yellow and seizing.

BigNavy, are you seeing a lot of highly elevated bilis at 6HOL? I'm all for checking early, but that seems almost too early to catch anything.
 
AttyHubby, although neonatal jaundice may not seem to connect to YOU much, you might actually look at the opinion pieces. One of the authors makes a major issue that their opinion is significantly informed by their personal experience as an expert witness in these legal cases. Although I suspect this is not uncommon, it is unusual to see this (personal experience as an expert witness) recognized in the medical literature as informing decision making.

Certainly didn't mean to downplay it's importance, was just trying to make a joke. Since my wife is 100% neo gunning already, she tends to give a bit more detail on these things than I can handle without 😱.

I checked out the issue, I assume the article you're referring to is "Universal Bilirubin Screening, Guidelines, and Evidence" by Newman? I can't get the full article without a subscription. I have no idea if my wife has access through school, but if someone wanted to send it my way I would definitely like to read it.
 
Certainly didn't mean to downplay it's importance, was just trying to make a joke. Since my wife is 100% neo gunning already, she tends to give a bit more detail on these things than I can handle without 😱.

I checked out the issue, I assume the article you're referring to is "Universal Bilirubin Screening, Guidelines, and Evidence" by Newman? I can't get the full article without a subscription. I have no idea if my wife has access through school, but if someone wanted to send it my way I would definitely like to read it.

Gunning for neo?

I'd send you the article, but I think that's illegal and well, you do have that imposing username.😛

Send me a PM with a working email and I'll see what I can do
 
My group covers several nurseries and we do a Tc bili on every baby at 36 hours. If it's greater than 12, a heel stick blood sample is taken. Infants who are DAT positive get a Tc done at 24 hours, but some do blood at that time instead. I'm more a hospitalist however, and not a PCP.

What's your take on this practice OBP? I'd rather know if someone is creeping up there and getting close to needing phototherapy, especially if I'm discharging them and deciding on follow up. Usually I can get kids seen the next day by a PCP. On other hand, most of these bilis are normal in term low risk infants and we don't do much with the number other than watch.

I would think this approach slows down discharge a bit compared to testing all babies at 24 h. I'm not sure if it gets more or less babies on phototherapy. Many moms are planning on going home at 36 hrs so I'd think they might not like waiting for the serum bili, etc. Also, if 36 hours is 2 AM what happens? Do they really do a Tc and then a stat 3 AM bili?

Also, sounds like they don't use the nomogram at all? (?or the guidelines to visually evaluate babies more often in the first 36 hours of life). I'm curious if I'm misunderstanding what is done or if they don't agree with the nomogram (as in one of the opinion writers in Pediatrics).
 
I would think this approach slows down discharge a bit compared to testing all babies at 24 h. I'm not sure if it gets more or less babies on phototherapy. Many moms are planning on going home at 36 hrs so I'd think they might not like waiting for the serum bili, etc. Also, if 36 hours is 2 AM what happens? Do they really do a Tc and then a stat 3 AM bili?

Also, sounds like they don't use the nomogram at all? (?or the guidelines to visually evaluate babies more often in the first 36 hours of life). I'm curious if I'm misunderstanding what is done or if they don't agree with the nomogram (as in one of the opinion writers in Pediatrics).

Hmm, no I didn't mean to imply we don't use the nomogram. In fact, I'm quite attached to it. I was assuming we were talking about term low risk infants, who would be on the top curve. That would put their 36 hour light level at 14 or so, wouldn't it?

I actually don't much care for Tc bilis and would be for just checking a serum at 24 hours, but our neos like the Tc screening, I think because it's quick and easy, so I roll with it. Anyone I'm worried about gets a serum.

In terms of discharge, if we are anticipating a d/c at 36 HOL, then we'll hedge and do it a little early, giving time for blood to be sent if necessary. It hasn't seemed to hold anyone up so far, though I'm sure it does happen.

If 36 hours of life is in the middle of the night, then we count on sending mom home the next morning. Tc is still obtained right around 36 hours, regardless of the time and a STAT bili will be sent even if it's 3AM.

Does that make more sense?
 
If 36 hours of life is in the middle of the night, then we count on sending mom home the next morning. Tc is still obtained right around 36 hours, regardless of the time and a STAT bili will be sent even if it's 3AM.

Does that make more sense?

yes, but not very nice to the on-call doc who has to get up at 4 AM, check the nomogram and decide on PTX.
 
yes, but not very nice to the on-call doc who has to get up at 4 AM, check the nomogram and decide on PTX.

Sometimes I love a good community hospital. The nurses all know the numbers, and I always leave parameters before bed. "If it's above 13, call me."

At the mothership, well, that's what interns are for, isn't it?
 
At one point in our institution, it was standard to check serum 24 hour bilis on each and every baby, but after looking at the numbers it was costly and not very useful if you look at the actual discrepancy between serum bilis and Tc.

So now, every baby gets at Tc bili at 24 hrs, and if on the nomogram is greater than the LIR than gets a serum bili. It has work well and nurses know when to bother the doctor on call.
 
yes, but not very nice to the on-call doc who has to get up at 4 AM, check the nomogram and decide on PTX.

Heh, even at the mothership, it's never the on-call neo who checks these things. We have a nursery night resident who follows up on all of those, in between the 3am c-sections.
 
Heh, even at the mothership, it's never the on-call neo who checks these things. We have a nursery night resident who follows up on all of those, in between the 3am c-sections.

I don't wish to belabor the point, but I don't really see the medical need to do a routine Tc bili after midnight just because that is 36 hours. Having the least trained, busiest person handle this in the middle of the night doesn't seem ideal or necessary to me. I similarly do not order routine "24 hour of life labs" on admitted stable preterm infants after midnight either. But, to each their own. I realize this isn't your decision.
 
At one point in our institution, it was standard to check serum 24 hour bilis on each and every baby, but after looking at the numbers it was costly and not very useful if you look at the actual discrepancy between serum bilis and Tc.

So now, every baby gets at Tc bili at 24 hrs, and if on the nomogram is greater than the LIR than gets a serum bili. It has work well and nurses know when to bother the doctor on call.

That's ironic becasue at least at our instituion a TCB costs about $4-5 but a serum bili costs ~30 cents. It's much cheaper to just do serum.

Stitch, we seldom start lites at 6 hours, but we often start them before 24hrs because of rapid rate of rise.

At my institution the resident or intern covering the nursery does spend time tracking down 3AM bilis. Our nursery (not NICU, nursery) nurses also don't inspire confidence . . . .
 
The October 2009 Pediatrics has a range of articles and opinions about management of jaundice. I can't repost, but to summarize, there are a couple of original research articles about the potential benefits/risks of predischarge bili measurements and then several opinion pieces about it.

A range of opinions are expressed both pro and con routine predischarge bili measurement either transcutaneously or by blood sample.

I actually had some questions about the articles and the controversy regarding bilirubin screening if I may entertain the message board. To summarize the articles I think being discussed:


1. Impact of Universal Bilirubin Screening on Sever Hyperbilirubinemia and Phototherapy Use.

Article seems to conclude that universal screening for hyperbilirubinemia decreases severe hyperbillrubinemia, but that it is currently unclear if this decreases kernicterus.

It seems to me that universal screening does detect missed cases in the early hospitalization period and probably would prevent some cases of kernicterus.

2. Transcutaneous Bilirubin Normogram for Prediction of Significant Neonatal Hyperbilirubinemia

Article argued for the expanded use of TcB for universal screening of infants between 12 to 72 hours to help predict which infants might need follow up because they may develop hyperbilirubinemia during the first week.

Seems to make sense to start using TcB measurements universally in hospitals in the US as it is non-invansive, and doubtlessly the technology will improve over the years to where it will become more accurate

3. Screening of Infants for Hyperbilirubinemia to Prevent Chronic Bilirubin Encephalopathy: US Preventive Services Task Force Recommendation Statement

The USPSTF, in typical fashion, will not go out on a limb and recommend anything unless there are a lot of good trials on a controversial topic, and basically said that they can recommend universal screening of infants for hyperbilirubinemia to prevent kernicterus because the study hasn't been done yet.

My questions regarding bilirubin screening are:

1. While it hasn't been proven that universal bilirubin screening decreases the incidence of kernicterus per se, it does decrease severe hyperbilirubinemia which could lead to kernicterus in a small number of infants. Would any do the large clinical trial required to prove this? Would this be ethical?

2. Universal screening with TcB appears to be reliable in many aspects, and is noninvasive, and likely wouldn't increase cost that much in any given hospital due to ease of performing the test, so why not just do it as precaution? As some pediatricians have noted, the possible consequences of missing hyperbilirubinemia can be devastating, i.e. kernicterus, and visual estimation of bilirubin is unreliable.

*Just read one of the commentaries that the cost of universal screening would be 4 to 78 million per case of kernicterus prevented, of couse caring for a person will kernicterus over their life is also easily in the millions of dollars and there is the emotional toll, lost productivity as well. But could screening for hyperbilirubinemia have other positive benefits such as detecting occult etiologies of hyperbilirubinemia earlier?

3. Do severe or even mild hyperbilirubinemia levels have any adverse clinical effects besides kernicterus? I.e. should we be more concerned about severe hyperbilirubinemia levels besides kernicterus?

4. Some hospitals don't do universal bilirubin screening, especially for term low risk infants, but is this simply shifting the responsibility for preventing kernicterus on to the shoulders of the primary care pediatrician?

5. Detecting jaundice in a baby with moderately, or heavily pigmented skin can be difficult sometimes, would TcB be more helpful in these infants?

Any information that OBP, or anyone else could provide would be helpful, thanks
 
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