program took back invite to interview (??!!)

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hi, I'm new to SDN, please forgive me if this question has been asked before. I got an invite from a "top" program (very uncompetitive specialty) and called to schedule an interview, and was told that i was "accidentally" invited, and the PD was "still reviewing" my file. I did see on SDN that other students had recently been invited to this specific program for interviews.

just wanted to see if this happens to anyone else on SDN....

and no, I wasn't rude on the phone, just shocked that I was put on hold and she came back and told me it was a mistake!
 
hi, I'm new to SDN, please forgive me if this question has been asked before. I got an invite from a "top" program (very uncompetitive specialty) and called to schedule an interview, and was told that i was "accidentally" invited, and the PD was "still reviewing" my file. I did see on SDN that other students had recently been invited to this specific program for interviews.

just wanted to see if this happens to anyone else on SDN....

and no, I wasn't rude on the phone, just shocked that I was put on hold and she came back and told me it was a mistake!

Mistakes can happen, but the mistake was the program's and not yours. I would schedule you for an interview and not mention a mistake. This whole process is very stressful for ALL of us...programs and applicants, and we don't need to make things worse by making someone feel really bad. Sorry this happened to you.
 
Mistakes can happen, but the mistake was the program's and not yours. I would schedule you for an interview and not mention a mistake. This whole process is very stressful for ALL of us...programs and applicants, and we don't need to make things worse by making someone feel really bad. Sorry this happened to you.
My take on it is a little different. Yes, if an accident/mistake occurred and an invitation was extended to a candidate that would not be considered, it is very, very unfortunate.

However, taking an innapropriate invitation to then continuing the charade to having the med-student pay for the trip and use interview time just to cover-up the error is wrong. The med-student can be spending effort, time, and money at a "real" potential opportunity. There is little worse then going through the song and dance when there is no true possibility of being reasonably ranked and/or matching. If a program makes an error and invites a candidate not appropriate to their standards, etc... the best thing they can do is correct that error quickly and politely and not compound it by continuing the charade at the expense of the applicant. It is an accident/mistake that should not be compounded by hiding it.
 
Completely agree with JackADeli. What happened to the OP is really unfortunate, but it's better to have the truth out now than to put time and money towards a dead end. And honest mistakes certainly do happen - I received one interview invite that was addressed in the email to someone else; I sat there puzzled for a bit, but received another one about an hour later that was properly addressed to me.
 
My take on it is a little different. Yes, if an accident/mistake occurred and an invitation was extended to a candidate that would not be considered, it is very, very unfortunate.

However, taking an innapropriate invitation to then continuing the charade to having the med-student pay for the trip and use interview time just to cover-up the error is wrong. The med-student can be spending effort, time, and money at a "real" potential opportunity. There is little worse then going through the song and dance when there is no true possibility of being reasonably ranked and/or matching. If a program makes an error and invites a candidate not appropriate to their standards, etc... the best thing they can do is correct that error quickly and politely and not compound it by continuing the charade at the expense of the applicant. It is an accident/mistake that should not be compounded by hiding it.
But how is doing what Quink suggested any different than programs that give courtesy invites to all students who rotate with them? Obviously these programs are not going to be interested in having every rotator continue on as a resident, but it seems like plenty of programs give them all invites anyway. Or, what about "legacy" applicants who get interviews based on connections even though the program wouldn't have invited them otherwise? Same point as before.

The other thing is that the program might feel differently about the student once they meet them in person, assuming they're relying heavily on perceived fit to make their decision. So sure, there would have been some random luck involved for the student to have gotten the invite in the first place, but the process is so subjective anyway that it's not like that student couldn't turn out to be a dark horse once they showed up. From the applicant side, there are definitely programs that you end up liking a lot more than you expected to, and I don't see why it would be different for the programs.

Anyway, OP, I'm sorry that happened to you, and I hope the PD ultimately does decide to invite you. :luck:

Edit: I also think it's kind of presumptuous to assume that the OP probably isn't competitive enough for that program. If s/he applied to a top program, presumably this person (and their advisor) felt that their app was strong enough to have a chance to be considered there.
 
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JackADell has a valid point. However, there is the rare chance that there may be a personality/program click that might make them reconsider. The "diamond in the rough," as it were. I recognize how rare this happens, but if it is a dream spot for the student, best to take advantage of the mistake.

Remember, you are planning your next 15-20 years of career now. Best to take the opportunities as they arise to make it happen.

Of course, if the door has been accidentally left open, one should put their best foot forward going in, and do their best.
 
But how is doing what Quink suggested any different than programs that give courtesy invites to all students who rotate with them?...

The other thing is that the program might feel differently about the student once they meet them in person, assuming they're relying heavily on perceived fit to make their decision...

...I also think it's kind of presumptuous to assume that the OP probably isn't competitive enough for that program...
Just a few points:

1. I'm not a big fan of "courteousy" interviews. If your application does not meet the criteria of a particular program, I don't see it a "courteousy" to extend an interview, raise false hopes, and cost a medical student effort, time, and money to interview. Once you interview, ERAS rules preclude much honest feedback leading up to the match. Everyone having gone through the process has experienced the drooling excessive positivity that convinces you that you will be "ranked very high (wink, wink)" or knows someone that was sure they would match and are very, very surpised and feels lied to on match day.

2. Yes, a program may feel different. It really depends on how your app is screened. Presumably, your apps has made it passed the first round usmle/GPA filters and such. But, that means the app likely went before several sets of eyes that put you in the no-go pile. You may win the lottery... but, chances are you will not. Again, false hopes are costly during ERAS.

3. It is not presumptuous. My comments are based on trying to read what occurred to the OP based on the OP's own representations of what the facts are. He/she applied to a top tier program. The top tier program apparently reviewed the application. The program, after review of application did not intend to interview. An error was made an an interview was extended. When the OP called to schedule interview, a long wait on hold occurred. Very likely, the long hold occurred while error was discovered because app was looked at again and thus interview invite withdrawn. The OP's apps appears to have received far more review then most rejections and still was deemed not to be the candidate this program feels is reasonable to offer the expenses of an interview.
JackADell has a valid point. However, there is the rare chance that there may be a personality/program click that might make them reconsider. The "diamond in the rough," as it were. I recognize how rare this happens, but if it is a dream spot for the student, best to take advantage of the mistake...
The issue at stake is that there is no taking advantage. Either:
A) Program makes a mistake, hides it, continues the charade, you spend your dough to interview under false pretense, most likely do not match, and are none the wiser.
B) Program recognizes its mistake, withdraws its invite

The system is already built often to the programs' advantage. They almost always encourage you and talk about how competitive you are. They inform you that ""we" wouldn't be interviewing you if you were not competitive", and encourage you to rank them highly. The students are on tight budgets with limited dates to schedule interviews.

It just injects dishonesty to invite candidates that a program felt would not be competitive simply because a clerical error has occurred. Is the program going to tell them, "you are here by accident and are not a candidate we would consider competitive"? Thus, the student can make an honest decision to spend money to interview. Or, is it more likely the student will get the same sales pitch of, ""we" wouldn't be interviewing you if you were not competitive"?

I find it more ethical for a program to identify its clerical error and not compound a clerical error (at the student's expense) by hiding it. I would pose that a program/PD that would use their advantage/position of power and the secrecy of the process to hide its errors at the expense of a student has very, very low integrity. Acknowledge your mistake, correct it, and move on.... don't compound it with expense and false hope on the individuals that can least afford it.
 
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That would really suck! However, I agree with Jack that what the program did was reasonable for the reasons he outlined. Again my sympathies to your situation. I thought receiving an email from a program with an attachment that then said I wasn't invited was bad (I figured an attachment would have information about an interview) but what happened to you is much worse.

Certainly shocking but I would try not obsess on it at this point and just move forward.
 
3. It is not presumptuous. My comments are based on trying to read what occurred to the OP based on the OP's own representations of what the facts are. He/she applied to a top tier program. The top tier program apparently reviewed the application. The program, after review of application did not intend to interview. An error was made an an interview was extended. When the OP called to schedule interview, a long wait on hold occurred. Very likely, the long hold occurred while error was discovered because app was looked at again and thus interview invite withdrawn. The OP's apps appears to have received far more review then most rejections and still was deemed not to be the candidate this program feels is reasonable to offer the expenses of an interview.
But that's exactly my point; you are reading a *ton* into the OP's four sentence post that s/he didn't say!

1) The OP did *not* say that they were rejected. What the PC told the OP was that the PD was still reviewing their app. So we don't know if the program has made a final decision not to interview at all, or just not to interview right now. Plenty of programs send out multiple rounds of invites as previous invitees cancel; based on the OP's post, it's just as plausible that the program is holding on to the OP's app for now and will possibly invite him/her later. Being a "second string" applicant doesn't equate with being kicked off the team altogether.

2) The OP did *not* say that "a long hold occurred," allowing us to (possibly) conclude that their app was being re-reviewed. Again, that's something you read into their post.

Maybe the OP really was being rejected and accidentally got an invite email rather than a rejection email. I'll grant that based on the OP's post, we can't rule out your interpretation any more than we can rule out mine. All I'm trying to say here is that everyone is jumping to conclusions based on insufficient info. If the OP comes back, maybe s/he will clarify.

FWIW, I agree with you that courtesy/legacy invites are bad for exactly the reasons you gave. I'm a student adcom, and it annoys me whenever we have to interview a legacy candidate who we know from the getgo has no chance of getting accepted based on their credentials. Wastes everyone's time and like you said, gets the applicant's hopes up/wastes their money. But sometimes that's the political reality we find ourselves in. :shrug:
 
...you are reading a *ton* into the OP's four sentence post that s/he didn't say!

1) The OP did *not* say that they were rejected. What the PC told the OP was that the PD was still reviewing their app...

2) The OP did *not* say that "a long hold occurred," allowing us to (possibly) conclude that their app was being re-reviewed. Again, that's something you read into their post...
My over all perspective on this topic is as described. The OP is the only one that will ultimately know how much applies to their particular circumstances. If the OP does have an interview, great. If he/she doesn't, unfortunate but better to know then waste money. Duration of the "hold", not really that important.
program took back invite to interview
Not sure the point of the big argument/debate on this.
 
This happened to me as well. I was invited and then months later told that it was a mistake. The program coordinator gave the "reason" for the mistake, and I clarified (without giving too much identifying information here) and was re-offered my interview spot.
Mistakes do genuinely happen, If there's a chance that they can tell you why they decided to not invite you, then you might be able to make a case for yourself.
the whole process is stressful on both sides.
goodluck!
 
This happened to me as well. I was invited and then months later told that it was a mistake. The program coordinator gave the "reason" for the mistake, and I clarified (without giving too much identifying information here) and was re-offered my interview spot.
Mistakes do genuinely happen, If there's a chance that they can tell you why they decided to not invite you, then you might be able to make a case for yourself.
the whole process is stressful on both sides.
goodluck!


thanks for your responses. I was on hold for less than one minute. I just wanted to know if programs who "took back" invites gave a reason, be it score, school, or just typo in emailing.... I will let you all know the final outcome from this program when they message me... good luck everyone!
 
This happened to me as well. I was invited and then months later told that it was a mistake. The program coordinator gave the "reason" for the mistake, and I clarified (without giving too much identifying information here) and was re-offered my interview spot.
Mistakes do genuinely happen, If there's a chance that they can tell you why they decided to not invite you, then you might be able to make a case for yourself.
the whole process is stressful on both sides.
goodluck!

Far less stressful for the programs. They'll get theirs. The stress is on us as we have the most to lose.
 
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