Prospective Pod

[javajava]

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Hey, I know this post should go to pre podiatry, however I was unsure whether or not attendings or residents actually view the pre pod forum so I thought it was best to ask the question here. If it isn't allowed, please move my post back to the Pre Pod sub forum.

My question:

Background
Im a Asian Psychology major, and in my freshman year Ive always wanted to become a I/O psychologist. I've done pretty well in psychology, and done well in upper level psychology however now in my junior year I feel that psychology isn't as interesting field to me anymore. Thus I have been considering either a Doctor of Podiatric Medicine or a Doctor of Osteopathy degree. So far I've been taking a few of the pre reqs at my Canadian University (Go Canucks).

Inquiry
If I were to pursue a Doctor of Podiatric Medicine degree, I would probably only apply to CSPM and WesternU (WU my fav atm). If I do go this route, I would be so far interested in working in a hospital like Kaiser Permenente (located in california). I was wondering, are getting jobs at places like Kaiser Permenente difficult, are openings rare and are they desirable positions?

Thanks for reading my post Have a Great Day

Edit: Heres the link to Kaiser, in case it would help you to formulate your answer https://www.kaiserpermanente.org/

 

[Matthue]

Hey java i just PM'd you. hope that'll help.

 

[347932]

Hey, I know this post should go to pre podiatry, however I was unsure whether or not attendings or residents actually view the pre pod forum so I thought it was best to ask the question here. If it isn't allowed, please move my post back to the Pre Pod sub forum.

My question:

Background
Im a Asian Psychology major, and in my freshman year Ive always wanted to become a I/O psychologist. I've done pretty well in psychology, and done well in upper level psychology however now in my junior year I feel that psychology isn't as interesting field to me anymore. Thus I have been considering either a Doctor of Podiatric Medicine or a Doctor of Osteopathy degree. So far I've been taking a few of the pre reqs at my Canadian University (Go Canucks).

Inquiry
If I were to pursue a Doctor of Podiatric Medicine degree, I would probably only apply to CSPM and WesternU (WU my fav atm). If I do go this route, I would be so far interested in working in a hospital like Kaiser Permenente (located in california). I was wondering, are getting jobs at places like Kaiser Permenente difficult, are openings rare and are they desirable positions?

Thanks for reading my post Have a Great Day

Edit: Heres the link to Kaiser, in case it would help you to formulate your answer https://www.kaiserpermanente.org/

I would tell you to shadow a Podiatrist and see if you enjoy the field before making any commitments. Seeing as how you are not even in Podiatry School, even if we told you that it was possible to get a job in an institution like KP, by the time you graduate and finish your residency, things WILL change.

I'm also curious where you are atm, as you mentioned you are at a Canadian University. If you are and are also a Canadian Citizen without status in the USA, there are immigration issues you need to be aware of before staking your claim to moving to the USA. It is a long and expensive process to get a Green Card, and you should talk to an Immigration Attorney to better plan your future in the USA, if that is your ultimate goal.

Good luck.

 

[javajava]

Hey java i just PM'd you. hope that'll help.

Hey thanks for the detailed PM, really appreciate it 🙂

I would tell you to shadow a Podiatrist and see if you enjoy the field before making any commitments. Seeing as how you are not even in Podiatry School, even if we told you that it was possible to get a job in an institution like KP, by the time you graduate and finish your residency, things WILL change.

I'm also curious where you are atm, as you mentioned you are at a Canadian University. If you are and are also a Canadian Citizen without status in the USA, there are immigration issues you need to be aware of before staking your claim to moving to the USA. It is a long and expensive process to get a Green Card, and you should talk to an Immigration Attorney to better plan your future in the USA, if that is your ultimate goal.

Good luck.

Im a Canadian citizen attending a Canadian University in British Columbia. Specifically Simon Fraser University. Others details like stats can be found in my MDapps profile under my handle name.

I checked out the immigration issues and apparently I dont THINK I would need a green card, just a student visa which i apply for if i ever do get in

http://www.westernu.edu/international-visa

 

[347932]

I'm a Canadian citizen attending a Canadian University in British Columbia. Specifically Simon Fraser University. Others details like stats can be found in my MDapps profile under my handle name.

I checked out the immigration issues and apparently I dont THINK I would need a green card, just a student visa which i apply for if i ever do get in

http://www.westernu.edu/international-visa

You are correct that to attend school you will only need a student visa, BUT once you finish school, unless you will be returning to Canada immediately and not attaining residency training, you will need to get a work visa. The ONLY one that will allow you stay in the USA after finishing said residency is an H1-B1 work visa of which there is an annual cap as to how many they give out and eventually, you will need to transfer to a Green Card if you want to stay and work in the USA. You can only stay in H1-B1 visa status for a maximum of 6 years. Even if you marry an American, you will still need to go through the Green Card process if you intend to stay within the USA.

Also, if you do want to return to Canada, I would do a lot of research as to the scope of practice issues in Canada, by province, as being a Podiatrist in Canada is MUCH different than being a Podiatrist in the USA. I've been down that road, so if you have any specific questions please feel free to PM me.

 

[javajava]

You are correct that to attend school you will only need a student visa, BUT once you finish school, unless you will be returning to Canada immediately and not attaining residency training, you will need to get a work visa. The ONLY one that will allow you stay in the USA after finishing said residency is an H1-B1 work visa of which there is an annual cap as to how many they give out and eventually, you will need to transfer to a Green Card if you want to stay and work in the USA. You can only stay in H1-B1 visa status for a maximum of 6 years. Even if you marry an American, you will still need to go through the Green Card process if you intend to stay within the USA.

Also, if you do want to return to Canada, I would do a lot of research as to the scope of practice issues in Canada, by province, as being a Podiatrist in Canada is MUCH different than being a Podiatrist in the USA. I've been down that road, so if you have any specific questions please feel free to PM me.

With the way things seem to be going, I can rule out marrying an american. I suppose I'll think about shadowing a local podiatrist to see if I would be a right fit for podiatry and vica versa.

Its unfortunate that I have so many immigration issues ahead since DPM and DO are ONLY in America. I suppose for now Ill just pay attention to my work and keep up with my psychology lab volunteering as well as maybe even try finding a hospital to volunteer for and shadow

Thanks for everyones help, however if anyone has further input please contribute 🙂

 

[347932]

Its unfortunate that I have so many immigration issues ahead since DPM and DO are ONLY in America.

Did you mean North America or the USA? There are plenty of DPMs in Canada, but DO is not the same degree/scope in Canada as it is in the USA, and DPMs do less, if any surgery, in Canada. I also know that in Quebec, DPMs can't prescribe meds or take and read their own radiographs(without a special course and "permission"). Things to think about.

 

[javajava]

Did you mean North America or the USA? There are plenty of DPMs in Canada, but DO is not the same degree/scope in Canada as it is in the USA, and DPMs do less, if any surgery, in Canada. I also know that in Quebec, DPMs can't prescribe meds or take and read their own radiographs(without a special course and "permission"). Things to think about.

Oops forgive me I usually refer USA as america as I thought they were the same meaning.

 

[347932]

Oops forgive me I usually refer USA as america as I thought they were the same meaning.

Got it! I just like to be sure. If you ever need to talk to some DPMs in the Vancouver area, PM me and I'll give you their names. I'm sure they would be glad to talk to you 🙂.

Good Luck!

 

[javajava]

Got it! I just like to be sure. If you ever need to talk to some DPMs in the Vancouver area, PM me and I'll give you their names. I'm sure they would be glad to talk to you 🙂.

Good Luck!

If I ever do need to shadow one Ill for sure PM you, thanks 🙂

 

[questiondoc]

Any chance you could shadow an american pod? You might find that the scope of practice in the U.S. Would make the hoop jumping worthwhile.

 

[javajava]

Any chance you could shadow an american pod? You might find that the scope of practice in the U.S. Would make the hoop jumping worthwhile.

I dont think that would be possible for me, due to the number of hours it takes to drive from my location and back (I did it once to seattle for shopping with my friends) ( I drove, and I didnt like it ) I would be content with shadowing a local one, more likely a young fresh one if possible.

At this point in time I won't be shadowing anytime soon, perhaps in half a year when Ive made up my mind and learned more about DPM and DO.

But I am still curious about hospital positions as a podiatrists in institutions like Kaiser permenente IF anyone knows anything about that please tell me 🙂

 

[PADPM]

As Kidsfeet already stated, it is really not possible to predict how obtainable a position will/would be with Kaiser down the road. You aren't even in school yet, so we are talking about an event that is at least 7 years away.

There are a lot of potential changes that can take place during that time, and it will depend on how you do in school, where you do your residency, the quality of your training and what positions are available at Kaiser at the time. There are too many variables to really make any intelligent comments about a situation which is 7 years in the future (at the minimum).

 

[javajava]

As Kidsfeet already stated, it is really not possible to predict how obtainable a position will/would be with Kaiser down the road. You aren't even in school yet, so we are talking about an event that is at least 7 years away.

There are a lot of potential changes that can take place during that time, and it will depend on how you do in school, where you do your residency, the quality of your training and what positions are available at Kaiser at the time. There are too many variables to really make any intelligent comments about a situation which is 7 years in the future (at the minimum).

Thank you and everyone else for their advice. I will keep in mind what everyone has said 🙂