Psychologists recurring misinformation and oversimplificiation of neurology.

[Prototype123]

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I have not yet experienced one well informed psychologist lecturing on neurology. They all reference outdated concepts of neurology. Even the old 80s pop science belief of left and right brain is presented as fact, and some of it is even completely wrong.

One gigantic error is claiming that the left side of the brain is primarily involved in, amongst other things, mathematical functions. The fact is that people with non reading learning disabilities have impairments on the right side of the brain, responsible for visuospatial perception crucial to logical thinking in math. The left side of the brain regarding math is mainly responsible for basic head counting, which is only one, relatively minor factor in mathematics.

Also, the left brain language center dominance is no longer an accepted view in neurology. The right hemisphere has plenty of involvement in verbal comprehension, including understanding ambigious words.

 

[WisNeuro]

Oh, hey, this troll is back. Yeah, I've never seen a psychologist lecture the way you are claiming. That only gets perpetuated by the media and people with fake degrees.

 

[Therapist4Chnge]

I have not yet experienced one well informed psychologist lecturing on neurology.

...then you need to attend better lectures? We are out there. Some of us also give talks at conferences.

 

[Prototype123]

Oh, hey, this troll is back. Yeah, I've never seen a psychologist lecture the way you are claiming. That only gets perpetuated by the media and people with fake degrees.

Well, I have. Nigel Holts book references neurological studies from the 80s, claiming that the left side of the brain is primarily involved in language and mathematical functions. This would be true based on what people knew in the 80s, but not the 2000s.

 

[Prototype123]

...then you need to attend better lectures? We are out there. Some of us also give talks at conferences.

Better lectures? Is Lund university that bad?

 

[WisNeuro]

Ah, so one lecture equals the entirety of the profession. Is this one of those "alternative facts?"

 

[Prototype123]

Ah, so one lecture equals the entirety of the profession. Is this one of those "alternative facts?"

4 professors so far, out of 4. I corrected one of them. Just couldn't stand the ignorance presented to the students. Nigel Holts book last updated 2015, still purports that the majority of mathematical functions resides in the left side of the brain.

 

[erg923]

I have not yet experienced one well informed psychologist lecturing on neurology. They all reference outdated concepts of neurology. Even the old 80s pop science belief of left and right brain is presented as fact, and some of it is even completely wrong.

One gigantic error is claiming that the left side of the brain is primarily involved in, amongst other things, mathematical functions. The fact is that people with non reading learning disabilities have impairments on the right side of the brain, responsible for visuospatial perception crucial to logical thinking in math. The left side of the brain regarding math is mainly responsible for basic head counting, which is only one, relatively minor factor in mathematics.

Also, the left brain language center dominance is no longer an accepted view in neurology. The right hemisphere has plenty of involvement in verbal comprehension, including understanding ambigious words.

I don't give a **** about neurology. Guess that why I didn't become neurologist. I fail to see a problem here. I'm not very good at differential calculus either. Big whoop.

 

[WisNeuro]

Looks like a problem on the other side of the pond, I haven't seen it in my career.

 

[Prototype123]

Looks like a problem on the other side of the pond, I haven't seen it in my career.

Other side of the pond?! Nigel Holts book is for undergraduates and above. I suggest you read it. I just want to tear my hair apart whenever I hear left and right brained. One lecture still perpetuated that myth in a neuropsychology class.

 

[Prototype123]

I don't give a **** about neurology. Guess that why I didn't become neurologist. I fail to see a problem here. I'm not very good at differential calculus either. Big whoop.

Just present the facts correctly then by reading up on the litterature, instead of assuming that neurology hasn't progressed since the 80s.

 

[WisNeuro]

Yes, the Pond. And, I have plenty of other reference books as a neuropsychologist. No need for another one at the moment.

 

[erg923]

Just present the facts correctly then by reading up on the litterature, instead of assuming that neurology hasn't progressed since the 80s.

what?

 

[Prototype123]

Yes, the Pond. And, I have plenty of other reference books as a neuropsychologist. No need for another one at the moment.

Do they correctly state that mathematical functions primarily reside in the right side of the brain? Ours doesn't. I need a time machine for it to be relevant.

 

[WisNeuro]

I suggest you read better books and not generalize to an entire profession as it constitutes an misunderstanding of mathematical principals.

 

[Harry3990]

You reference being frustrated by coming across this oversimplification...Have you considered that you are overgeneralizing your experience? Might be guilty of a little bit of oversimplification of a field yourself?

There are lazy/bad professors and book authors in every field that hold things behind. That does not mean that these holdouts are representative of an entire field.

In my psychology classes and readings the right/left brain stuff has long been considered and represented as being outdated.

 

[Prototype123]

as it constitutes an misunderstanding of mathematical principals.

One does not need to be knowledgeable about any mathemathical principles to understand the operations involved in the brain. Science settles that for them. Neurologists and psychologists are usually not math majors, nor do they need to be.

 

[Prototype123]

There are lazy/bad professors and book authors in every field that hold things behind. That does not mean that these holdouts are representative of an entire field.
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I am very sceptical if a psychology textbook from 2015 is able to pass unnoticed.

 

[Therapist4Chnge]

Molehill….Mountain.

There are plenty of great lecturers out there and some who aren't; that applies to all fields of study.

 

[PsyDr]

Did they teach you anything about the personality structure of someone who proclaims to be smarter than an entire field and has "unlimited options" for sexual partners?

 

[WisNeuro]

One does not need to be knowledgeable about any mathemathical principles to understand the operations involved in the brain. Science settles that for them. Neurologists and psychologists are usually not math majors, nor do they need to be.

No, but one does need to be knowledgeable about statistical properties to avoid rash generalizations from isolated anecdotes.

 

[Prototype123]

that applies to all fields of study.

I would like to see a physics lecturer of any department present the Steady State theory instead of Big Bang. That's the level of error.

 

[Prototype123]

No, but one does need to be knowledgeable about statistical properties to avoid rash generalizations from isolated anecdotes.

Isn't one high ranked university encompassing several lecturers bad enough?

 

[WisNeuro]

Nope, and with that, I'm done with this particular instance of trolling.

 

[Prototype123]

Nope, and with that, I'm done with this particular instance of trolling.

OK, mr sample size. I doubt you have insight on the majority of psychology departments, so I might as well reverse the argument, unless you take a neutral stance that is. But anyway, I don't care about you and your opinions. Nice chatting!

 

[PsyDr]

OK, mr sample size. I doubt you have insight to the majority of psychology departments, so I might as well reverse the argument, unless you take a neutral stance that is. But anyway, I don't care about you and your opinions. Nice chatting!

Awesome logic.

 

[Prototype123]

Awesome logic.

Why thank you.

 

[psych.meout]

https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/are-aspergers-researching-autism-prevalent.1222825/

I was stringently diagnosed with Aspergers syndrome at age 15 and thus know better than anyone what aspergers does and does entail, and wheter it should be grouped with autism.

Would I be unique in the field of psychology to research my own condition?

 

[Prototype123]

https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/are-aspergers-researching-autism-prevalent.1222825/

What has that to do with incompetent lecturers who are too lazy to google before a lecture on cognition?

 

[psych.meout]

What has that to do with incompetent lecturers who are too lazy to google before a lecture on cognition?

https://forums.studentdoctor.net/th...k-eye-contact-with-you-during-convos.1238773/

There's a nice looking girl I recently came in contact with and started talking with. The moment our eyes met they locked and she did not look away. Our actual chatting was fairly routine but this was our first encounter (having only seen each other in the same buildings before). So it was a little bit odd. Her demeanor was positive and her eyes interested.

But..... Is it a sign of dominance (that is to say a clue about ones personality) when an attractive female does not break eye contact with you?

Shouldn't you according to social norms break eye contact after 3-4 seconds with strangers?

I am just disappointed that I broke eye contact first, but she was impossible. Most women I encounter are "submissive".

 

[Therapist4Chnge]

https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/are-aspergers-researching-autism-prevalent.1222825/

Oooooooooh....I remember that thread.

This makes a lot more sense now.

 

[Prototype123]

It's called neuroticism. Now, would you mind answering the question, or are you just a dick?

 

[Prototype123]

The discipline of psychology, and its intellectual lightweight representatives, can't hide behind my aspergers.

 

[smalltownpsych]

I have not yet experienced one well informed psychologist lecturing on neurology. They all reference outdated concepts of neurology. Even the old 80s pop science belief of left and right brain is presented as fact, and some of it is even completely wrong.

One gigantic error is claiming that the left side of the brain is primarily involved in, amongst other things, mathematical functions. The fact is that people with non reading learning disabilities have impairments on the right side of the brain, responsible for visuospatial perception crucial to logical thinking in math. The left side of the brain regarding math is mainly responsible for basic head counting, which is only one, relatively minor factor in mathematics.

Also, the left brain language center dominance is no longer an accepted view in neurology. The right hemisphere has plenty of involvement in verbal comprehension, including understanding ambigious words.

My dad used to always say to me whenever I would do something stupid, "if you had a half a brain, you would take it out and play with it." No idea what that really means, but I don't think it was a compliment.

 

[Prototype123]

My dad used to always say to me whenever I would do something stupid, "if you had a half a brain, you would take it out and play with it." No idea what that really means, but I don't think it was a compliment.

And my dad used to say that everything is relative. He was wrong.

 

[deleted343839]

:troll:

 

[Prototype123]

:troll:

I would love to say that I am trolling but I am not. It's really this bad. And I don't for a second believe that Lund university is an exception.

 

[psych.meout]

The discipline of psychology, and its intellectual lightweight representatives, can't hide behind my aspergers.

https://forums.studentdoctor.net/th...k-eye-contact-with-you-during-convos.1238773/

It is. I am not gay. And you pretty much have to be to diss her if the opportunity presented itself. That's why it's good to know if everything is all right with her.

That's irrelevant. I know we will meet again (next week) based on some info in the conversation. Wouldn't you do the same thing I did and stay cool for just one more meeting? I personally don't like to come across as just a guy hitting on her first time around, because that's playing into her hands, and giving her a psychological advantage. Believe me, with that appearence she probably has an ego.

You dispute that women don't want status and money? Every experiment I know of, good looking guys get beaten by rich average dudes. And yes, experiments have been done. Why should I even bother?

I have sent out several long term cues and she smiled. It's not like I just said goodbye.

 

[ilovedance1]

Just because this person is generalizing a few lectures to the entire field does not mean that they should be bullied or have previous posts brought up. Let's keep this civil, whether this person is trying to troll or not.

 

[PsyDr]

Just because this person is generalizing a few lectures to the entire field does not mean that they should be bullied or have previous posts brought up. Let's keep this civil, whether this person is trying to troll or not.

I completely disagree with the idea that previous posts should be ignored.

 

[PsyDr]

I would love to say that I am trolling but I am not. It's really this bad. And I don't for a second believe that Lund university is an exception.

People are having difficulty because you have expressed contempt for the field of psychology while stating your goal is to enter said field. In general people don't like being treated poorly. In general, saying things like feminism is a bad idea would not be tolerated in graduate programs. In general, when you say you are better at X activity, there is proof.

 

[Prototype123]

People are having difficulty because you have expressed contempt for the field of psychology while stating your goal is to enter said field. In general people don't like being treated poorly. In general, saying things like feminism is a bad idea would not be tolerated in graduate programs. In general, when you say you are better at X activity, there is proof.

There is sharp distinction between flawed theories and just plain misinformation, incompetence and failure to grasp content of crossover disciplines. Not everything is psychology is subpar, however. Hans Eysenck impressed me greatly. Most thinkers measure quite poorly compared to other fields such as biology, engineering and physics. But Eysenck is an exception. He is probably the equivalent of Schrodinger or Tesla in psychology. I only scratched the surface of his writings in textbooks. If Newton was somehow in contact with nature, something similiar has to be said of Eysenck and psychology.

 

[Justanothergrad]

Oh Hans. You seriously want to compare him to Newton? Hilarious.

Man. This isn't even good trolling.

 

[smalltownpsych]

There is sharp distinction between flawed theories and just plain misinformation, incompetence and failure to grasp content of crossover disciplines. Not everything is psychology is subpar, however. Hans Eysenck impressed me greatly. Most thinkers measure quite poorly compared to other fields such as biology, engineering and physics. But Eysenck is an exception. He is probably the equivalent of Schrodinger or Tesla in psychology. I only scratched the surface of his writings in textbooks. If Newton was somehow in contact with nature, something similiar has to be said of Eysenck and psychology.

Don't know much about Eysenck other than that I have heard the name before. Maybe when I was studying for the EPPP. Is his picture on a bubble gum card? How could he be such a big deal if he never got his picture on a bubble gum card? Hmmmm?

 

[Prototype123]

"At the time of his death, Eysenck was the living psychologist most frequently cited in the peer-reviewed scientific journal literature.[1][2]"

 

[Prototype123]

Oh Hans. You seriously want to compare him to Newton?

He correctly identified the root cause of extrovert vs introvert personalities in adults. The man was brilliant.

 

[psych.meout]

People are having difficulty because you have expressed contempt for the field of psychology while stating your goal is to enter said field. In general people don't like being treated poorly. In general, saying things like feminism is a bad idea would not be tolerated in graduate programs. In general, when you say you are better at X activity, there is proof.

There is sharp distinction between flawed theories and just plain misinformation, incompetence and failure to grasp content of crossover disciplines. Not everything is psychology is subpar, however. Hans Eysenck impressed me greatly. Most thinkers measure quite poorly compared to other fields such as biology, engineering and physics. But Eysenck is an exception. He is probably the equivalent of Schrodinger or Tesla in psychology. I only scratched the surface of his writings in textbooks. If Newton was somehow in contact with nature, something similiar has to be said of Eysenck and psychology.

 

[ClinicalTears]

People are having difficulty because you have expressed contempt for the field of psychology while stating your goal is to enter said field. In general people don't like being treated poorly. In general, saying things like feminism is a bad idea would not be tolerated in graduate programs. In general, when you say you are better at X activity, there is proof.

Holy **** for reals?

 

[Sanman]

So your contention is that all psychologists in the world have a poor grasp of cortical structure and function based on a simplification in an undergraduate college textbook. Perhaps your error is not appreciating the audience for which the book was written. Undergraduate textbooks are written for undergraduates. Doctoral level psychologists are not picking up undergrad texts and copying explanations verbatim in response to clinical issues. There are more comprehensive references, that is why there is further education. I am sure there are in depth analyses about the fact Edward Albee being a playwright of great merit and his contributions. However, my knowledge of him is as a man who won prizes for a play about having sex with a goat and I am happy to stop my knowledge right there (Thanks Into to Theater!). Undergraduate education is not about in depth understanding....

 

[Prototype123]

So your contention is that all psychologists in the world have a poor grasp of cortical structure and function based on a simplification in an undergraduate college textbook.?

Where did I write that? I only reported my disappointing experience with them. While some of the info they present is simplified, some is plain wrong.