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As I mentioned elsewhere, the WET people don't seem happy that they are now considered below EMDR. Lol.
I was thinking the same thingIn starting this, similar feelings probably for the Seeking Safety folks.
So they wouldn't consider WET as an EBP even though it's still "weak for" as far as evidence?Seeking Safety didn't do very well in the 2017 guidelines either, but, yeah. I bet it also sucks for the CBCT people. It's interesting because CBCT and now WET are currently being promoted as EBPs for PTSD under the rollout... but now they're TECHNICALLY not EBPs.
So they wouldn't consider WET as an EBP even though it's still "weak for" as far as evidence?
Seeking safety, yeah, I could see it no longer technically being an EBP based on these guidelines. And that seems to mirror providers' takes on it (here and elsewhere) that I've seen/heard.
Welp, I'm doing a WET training next month, so thats exciting for me.
It's also VERY easy to implement, lol.
Group therapies for PTSD (including manualized approaches) are still minimally better than 'no treatment.' You go, groups.![]()
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Group therapies for PTSD (including manualized approaches) are still minimally better than 'no treatment.' You go, groups.
The most significantly impacted outcome variable with VA groups, and the one upper-level leadership seems to care the most about, is the exceedingly important "wait list duration."Group therapies for PTSD (including manualized approaches) are still minimally better than 'no treatment.' You go, groups.
I like WET but have been thinking about other things to add to it before or after. Feels incomplete when not coupled with behavioral components. Feels like a pre-treatment in its current state, like I’m getting someone ready for PE.
Group therapies for PTSD (including manualized approaches) are still minimally better than 'no treatment.' You go, groups.
The simple task of familiarizing oneself with the FULL VA/DoD Clinical Practice Guidelines for various disorders/issues (especially PTSD, mTBI, and Suicidality) with ACTUAL practices and (ideologically-driven) directives at the local VA hospital operational level...will disabuse most thinking people of the notion that the organization actually is all about 'evidence-based practice.' I mean, there are some basic bright spots such as requiring all sites offer CPT/PE as first-line treatments for PTSD, but...I've had the experience that people start doing the behavioral exposure stuff on their own. Don't know why, and I was skeptical when I heard this, but it turned out to be true.
I know PCTs that are pretty much nothing but process or psychoeducational groups so... awkward. There's also that one study that found trauma preparatory work was only helpful for later EBP engagement and success if it was individual, the group modality had actually worse outcomes.
This entire organization needs to take a deep breath, a large step backwards, and re-conceptualize the construct of 'evidence-based psychotherapy,' beginning with a definition of the term.Seeking Safety didn't do very well in the 2017 guidelines either, but, yeah. I bet it also sucks for the CBCT people. It's interesting because CBCT and now WET are currently being promoted as EBPs for PTSD under the rollout... but now they're TECHNICALLY not EBPs.