pWWants are people too [Town wins]

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AM replied something along the lines of the same lines of a wolf flavor-hunting, which I dont think it applies? But personally I feel its like one jab at Clem going on nothing, which goes in line with the approach I think W!PSV is having of just trying to post *stuff* whitout really much insight or analysis?
Yeah, I didn't mean it in the literal sense. More like it's really easy to say things that don't actually narrow the POE and post pad wolf hunting by "solving for flavor."

We rarely have games on SDN where flavor matters anyway.
 
If you are talking about thunal, the anwer is tentative no.

I say tentative because the name rings a bell so maybe I crossed him somewhere or idk, but not enough to have a grasp on how they play
I played champs the year before you did (s8) so that might be why
 
Probably but I'd rather just say it evinces a townie mindset in a way that is fakable but most don't think to fake thus I am locking her town, particularly because I've correctly made mindset reads on psv before and thus feel full of hubris
I'm pocketed.

I don't think it's all that hard to fake/think of faking but I definitely get the kind of read you're making.
 
Incorrigible trolling aside it's because she described what I do when she scumreads me, it's what I was doing at the time, and her posts about me were a soft defense, so it looks like tmi knowing that if she scumreads me when I'm town there's a good chance I'd lock onto her

It's convoluted and relies a lot on personal history and I'm not super confident about it tbh
I don't think you were doing it at all though? I didn't mean you not doing very much/being utr early d1, I meant later when we both have more defined reads and worldview and specifically about reads being under the radar rather than posting. Afaik you hadn't given much in terms of reads when I made that post about your meta.
 
Second part to mull over is if Clem-PSV can be W-W .

Brain said yes. It makes perfect sense as to why Clem would drop a locktown read on a partner who no one had stated a tr + had a vote .

But also my gut says it’s a confbiased and surface-level analysis. So I would like others opinions on this. Also because at face value I vibe a bit with the insight and basis of the read, even if I dont fully agree with it
With that series of posts okay fine take a village read
 
As I wake up from my Benadryl induced coma I think I’m somewhere like this now

AM
Santy
Clem
Thunal
Moon
PSV
 
Welcome to the moonster forum experience tbh. It would probably seem worse if I was a wolf, though.
this post in context pings me a little. moonster did feel scattered/stumbly and I think "it would be worse if I was a wolf" is less likely to be a town defense than something like "that's towny for me" or even "that's NAI for me". Like she's saying it is a wolfy trait for her or at least happens more often when she's a wolf.
Hmm. Moonster's tone is a bit odd in a stumbly way but I'm trying to decide if it sounds like wolfy stumbling or villager struggling to word things correctly
 
I'm pocketed.

I don't think it's all that hard to fake/think of faking but I definitely get the kind of read you're making.
I read it again and maybe it is in context lol. Like if PSV were using it to push Clem I wouldn't townread it but it felt more like a random thought that just happened.
 
Second part to mull over is if Clem-PSV can be W-W .

Brain said yes. It makes perfect sense as to why Clem would drop a locktown read on a partner who no one had stated a tr + had a vote .

But also my gut says its a confbiased and surface-level analysis. So I would like others opinions on this. Also because at face value I vibe a bit with the insight and basis of the read, even if I dont fully agree with it
I also make those kinds of reads so I knew exactly what he was making. rn it could be w/w but I don't wolfread either independently. Like it's a read that makes sense for a partner but also could easily be a villager making a mindset read or a wolf making one on a villager.
 
Santy can get a townlean. There's not really any slam dunk posts that clearly showed a villager mindset but I feel like I can pick apart his process and his reads make sense to me.
I feel like him and Samac are in the same space of "I feel like they're being pro town and I'll call them town for now but I'm not as confident as I could be".
 
Why do I always want to scum read moon
This feels opportunistic and scummy

Im rereading the matrix game.

Moon was a wolf and you townread her D1 Samac smhsmh

I forgot but surprised that *you* also forgot because now I remember you later days laughing at how wrong you were early game.


As for myself I wanted to recheck the wolf moon vibe there and what jumped to me as wolfy. Now I remember.

I would still townlean moon atm, but my initial vibe of moon was null to then sus her.
Here I have a initial townlean, which in my head it isnt that much of a contrast to my initial null vibe (but still a positive)
 
Im rereading the matrix game.

Moon was a wolf and you townread her D1 Samac smhsmh

I forgot but surprised that *you* also forgot because now I remember you later days laughing at how wrong you were early game.


As for myself I wanted to recheck the wolf moon vibe there and what jumped to me as wolfy. Now I remember.

I would still townlean moon atm, but my initial vibe of moon was null to then sus her.
Here I have a initial townlean, which in my head it isnt that much of a contrast to my initial null vibe (but still a positive)
What I remember of the matrix game is buying her doctor claim and hard defending yeeting her.
That’s about it moon related.
I also remember Zenges case on me and you and I vibing as village, and being wrong on Dubz for a while. That’s that game in my head.

Appreciate that you’re re-evaluating tho.
 
You townread very early, from page 2? I think haha. The doctor claim was D1 EoD.

If you have the time I advise to do a quick skim of the moon D1 there and tell me if you feel they're different here or nah
 
You townread very early, from page 2? I think haha. The doctor claim was D1 EoD.

If you have the time I advise to do a quick skim of the moon D1 there and tell me if you feel they're different here or nah
I’m not going to today, doing board prep and then playing dnd.
I think I said I like them so they get a town read
I don’t know that I felt strongly
I often try and change up my playstyle in champs practice to practice different ways. This year was throwing snap reads. Don’t think that’s my style.
 
Also yeah, it was my own early villa core .
Now wit thunal also tr'ing April the core gains strenght yesyes


Me

April
AM
Moon
Samac
Thunal
genny
Clem
PSV

Is how I'd sort people asofrn
How can genny be anywhere without posting...?
 
Probably but I'd rather just say it evinces a townie mindset in a way that is fakable but most don't think to fake thus I am locking her town, particularly because I've correctly made mindset reads on psv before and thus feel full of hubris
I feel like this is a towny Clem post. Irrespective of the player involved being me lol
It's reminding me of his "Dubz was mafia" cockiness.
 
Second part to mull over is if Clem-PSV can be W-W .

Brain said yes. It makes perfect sense as to why Clem would drop a locktown read on a partner who no one had stated a tr + had a vote .

But also my gut says its a confbiased and surface-level analysis. So I would like others opinions on this. Also because at face value I vibe a bit with the insight and basis of the read, even if I dont fully agree with it
Still mindmelding. Had the same thought - definitely W-W compatible on surface level but it seems too easy. I could definitely see a wolf locktown reading a villager for pocketing or even white knighting purposes so I'm not using it in my assessment of compatibility
 
Also re: PSV's flavor post that should have been NAI, I could still see a wolf saying that. I've definitely made comments as a wolf before about silly things that I should have known better than to say but I either didn't think it through before posting or went "this is all that's rattling around in my brain right now so I might as well say it to look busy"
 
I'm not feeling great about AM. I don't have specific wolfy pings but she's posted a lot and I haven't gotten any village pings from her. Ik I sometimes ask a whole lot of questions as wolf to seem towny without really using them but idk if that's actually wolfy from AM.

moonster/AM is my immediate PoE but I can't say I'm feeling confident about either. moonster had that ping i mentioned earlier and the awkward feel. I feel like in both cases it could be lack of familiarity

vote moonster for now
 
I'm not feeling great about AM. I don't have specific wolfy pings but she's posted a lot and I haven't gotten any village pings from her. Ik I sometimes ask a whole lot of questions as wolf to seem towny without really using them but idk if that's actually wolfy from AM.

moonster/AM is my immediate PoE but I can't say I'm feeling confident about either. moonster had that ping i mentioned earlier and the awkward feel. I feel like in both cases it could be lack of familiarity

vote moonster for now
Who's above your immediate POE? And what questions aren't I using?
 
Clem is probably town with a little bit of paranoia there. I think his mindset read on PSV makes sense and I think it's somewhat good for her but I'm a little bothered about his level of confidence in it. I think realistically it's not that hard to fake/shouldn't be a lock.
 
I'm not feeling great about AM. I don't have specific wolfy pings but she's posted a lot and I haven't gotten any village pings from her. Ik I sometimes ask a whole lot of questions as wolf to seem towny without really using them but idk if that's actually wolfy from AM.

moonster/AM is my immediate PoE but I can't say I'm feeling confident about either. moonster had that ping i mentioned earlier and the awkward feel. I feel like in both cases it could be lack of familiarity

vote moonster for now
unyeet Animal Midwife

yeet Thunal
 
Who's above your immediate POE? And what questions aren't I using?
April
Santy/Samac
PSV/Clem
genny
AM/Moonster

is where I'm at right now. Like your questions to PSV/moonster which could be a way to get involved and generate content but it's fairly safe and i feel like I might see a towny underlying process if it were there.
 
April
Santy/Samac
PSV/Clem
genny
AM/Moonster

is where I'm at right now. Like your questions to PSV/moonster which could be a way to get involved and generate content but it's fairly safe and i feel like I might see a towny underlying process if it were there.
Don't know if I like this list.

Which questions specifically are "fairly safe"?
 
unyeet Animal Midwife

yeet Thunal
I think Santy asked who else I’d vote for, and it was between PSV and Thunal earlier. Initially, Thunal was a weaker lean/kinda sheeping Clem who I town lean. But the post I quoted really pings me.

Thunal spends most of it sussing AM, in a way that feels stronger than her sus on me, but then she votes me anyway? While acknowledging her sus on neither of us is that strong? Doesn’t seem right to me.
 
I'm not feeling great about AM. I don't have specific wolfy pings but she's posted a lot and I haven't gotten any village pings from her. Ik I sometimes ask a whole lot of questions as wolf to seem towny without really using them but idk if that's actually wolfy from AM.

moonster/AM is my immediate PoE but I can't say I'm feeling confident about either. moonster had that ping i mentioned earlier and the awkward feel. I feel like in both cases it could be lack of familiarity

vote moonster for now
this is a fairly common assessment when someone plays with AM the first time. I know you all said you played together like one time years ago, but I’m going to count this as a rebirth.
First time I ever played with her I tunneled so far up her ass I never saw light again.
 
I think Santy asked who else I’d vote for, and it was between PSV and Thunal earlier. Initially, Thunal was a weaker lean/kinda sheeping Clem who I town lean. But the post I quoted really pings me.

Thunal spends most of it sussing AM, in a way that feels stronger than her sus on me, but then she votes me anyway? While acknowledging her sus on neither of us is that strong? Doesn’t seem right to me.
Oh okay.
Fair enough.
 
I think Santy asked who else I’d vote for, and it was between PSV and Thunal earlier. Initially, Thunal was a weaker lean/kinda sheeping Clem who I town lean. But the post I quoted really pings me.

Thunal spends most of it sussing AM, in a way that feels stronger than her sus on me, but then she votes me anyway? While acknowledging her sus on neither of us is that strong? Doesn’t seem right to me.
It really isn't stronger because I think my pings with AM are more easily a playstyle difference than my pings with you. I already skimmed part of your champs ISO and i didn't get the same energy, but I haven't gotten to AM yet.
 
I feel very non directional.
Makes me uncomfortable to not be locked on to anything. Bleh
 
fwiw I'm way more voted as town lately lol. I was hoping my recent turbo meta of getting d1ed or at least wagoned d1 as town wouldn't stick into longform.
 
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