question about army

[ddsshin]

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Couple questions!
1. is there any physical requirement or academic requirement to join army/navy/ or air force? I have cGPA 3.3 sGPA3.4 DAT TS27 AA24 PA21. I am 5'7 and overweight 200lbs.

2. How are these 3 branches different from others? army /navy/ air force???
What are cons and pros???

3. I really want to specialize orthodontics in the future. Do army/navy/ AF has postgraduate dental programs??? Can I go right after dental school?? Will they pay for me??? How long are they? what are the requirements????

4. When Should I apply for HPSP? I am applying this year for dental school. Where Can I get infos???

5. Is it easy to get a job or start new office after completing the 4 yr service? Is there any down side to that???

6. What is the possibility of getting deployed to other countries that are in war or really dangerous??? Do you get any options or...random choice??

7. What are the benefits after going to army???? I know you get tuition and stipends of $2000 every months, but anything else??????? II heard you don't pay tax for cars and houses... is this true?

8. I think I will like working as an army, but I havent experienced yet.... Do you think its worth the time and money???????????

Thank you!!!!!!

 

[NAVY DDS 2010]

Read through the top 3 threads at a minimum. Then skim through the thread topic titles to answer what you couldn't find in the first three threads. Pretty much all your questions will be answered. Then repost your questions. We could spend hours trying to answer those questions when the questions have already been asked and answered in this forum. There really aren't a lot of threads in this forum (like the dental and pre-dental forums) where skimming through them will take too much of your time. In the amount of time it would take to answer your questions, you could skim and get the answers.

Couple questions!
1. is there any physical requirement or academic requirement to join army/navy/ or air force? I have cGPA 3.3 sGPA3.4 DAT TS27 AA24 PA21. I am 5'7 and overweight 200lbs.

2. How are these 3 branches different from others? army /navy/ air force???
What are cons and pros???

3. I really want to specialize orthodontics in the future. Do army/navy/ AF has postgraduate dental programs??? Can I go right after dental school?? Will they pay for me??? How long are they? what are the requirements????

4. When Should I apply for HPSP? I am applying this year for dental school. Where Can I get infos???

5. Is it easy to get a job or start new office after completing the 4 yr service? Is there any down side to that???

6. What is the possibility of getting deployed to other countries that are in war or really dangerous??? Do you get any options or...random choice??

7. What are the benefits after going to army???? I know you get tuition and stipends of $2000 every months, but anything else??????? II heard you don't pay tax for cars and houses... is this true?

8. I think I will like working as an army, but I havent experienced yet.... Do you think its worth the time and money???????????

Thank you!!!!!!

 

[AFDDS]

I'll answer some of this for you, but Navy DDS is correct. The top 3 threads will answer most, if not all of them, for you.

Couple questions!
1. is there any physical requirement or academic requirement to join army/navy/ or air force? I have cGPA 3.3 sGPA3.4 DAT TS27 AA24 PA21. I am 5'7 and overweight 200lbs. Air Force is looking for a 3.5 GPA and at least 18 on DAT. If you don't have the GPA, you can discuss with the recruiter and you still might meet the criteria to have your package submitted.

Your weight is going to be your downfall. AF has minimum requirements you'll have to meet here.

2. How are these 3 branches different from others? army /navy/ air force???
What are cons and pros??? Very subjective and you'll get most of what you want off the other threads here.

3. I really want to specialize orthodontics in the future. Do army/navy/ AF has postgraduate dental programs??? We have a combined tri-service program as well as sending residents to civilian programs. Can I go right after dental school?? Not likely. Will they pay for me??? Yes, if you are selected for training. How long are they? 2-3 years. what are the requirements????

4. When Should I apply for HPSP? When you are applying to dental school. I am applying this year for dental school. Where Can I get infos???Closest health recruiter

5. Is it easy to get a job or start new office after completing the 4 yr service? Is there any down side to that??? None from my opinion

6. What is the possibility of getting deployed to other countries that are in war or really dangerous??? I'm deployed now. If this is going to be a real problem for you, don't join. Don't forget, we all have a camoflauge uniform for a reason. Do you get any options or...random choice?? Needs of the Air Force take precedence.

7. What are the benefits after going to army???? I know you get tuition and stipends of $2000 every months, but anything else??????? HPSP is the same for all services, except Army and Navy pay a $20K bonus. Specifics are in other threads. II heard you don't pay tax for cars and houses... is this true? NO

8. I think I will like working as an army, but I havent experienced yet.... Do you think its worth the time and money???????????Yes

Thank you!!!!!!

 

[ArmyDDS2013]

It's good for the money and no debt. hpsp is also good if you would to serve your country and contribute in a meaningful way. Afterall, most of us probably included some sort of "desire or want" to help less fortunate people. Well, right after dental school, 99.9% of graduates won't be doing that but instead work, start their lives, and pay off loans.

the hpsp for me is a way to fulfill my real desire.

 

[TKC891]

My spouse is a mid age doctor with easy life and fairly good income. After talking with an army healthcare recruiter, my spouse has jointed Army as a direct commissioned doctor. When talking with the recruiter, he told us everything beautiful about army doctor's life, including attractive sign-in bonus, easy professional environment, good pension, comfortable retirement and possible placement in countries like Italy and Germany. He has tried to make deployment sound safe and easy. The worst is he has never introduced any detail about the officer training program which is actually the first and extremely difficult for someone in mid-age to go through, this is especially hard to a mid age who has no preparation at all for something like walking four miles, jumping out of truck or lunge forward with 40-50 lb. weight. After 8-10 hr physical training, you will have to sleep in a tent for several weeks without running water, clean toilet and taking a shower. The situation may be a lot worse when it is in summer. This type of physical training may cause a young man tired which will be over after a good sleep, but it may cause serious and permanent physical problem to a mid age. Army may have never thought about that direct commissioned doctors are usually about their mid-age and have lived easy life for long time. Not too many of them are used to hard physical experiences like these before they join army. They are happy to work for army, but army should treat them fairly. Mid aged people should not be trained in the same group as 20 year old. It is very unwise to expect a mid age medical professional who has never done any physical exercise in his or her life to behave the same as a 20 yr old. If this is not acceptable to army, then army should not take anyone in that age group. If this type of training is a must for everyone in army, then, army recruiters should tell all applicants in front and let them prepare for this. Army recruiters should not act like a used car salesman to hide everying negative. Now you have ruined our life and killed the reputation of army.

 

[ArmyDDS2013]

My spouse is a mid age doctor with easy life and fairly good income. After talking with an army healthcare recruiter, my spouse has jointed Army as a direct commissioned doctor. When talking with the recruiter, he told us everything beautiful about army doctor’s life, including attractive sign-in bonus, easy professional environment, good pension, comfortable retirement and possible placement in countries like Italy and Germany. He has tried to make deployment sound safe and easy. The worst is he has never introduced any detail about the officer training program which is actually the first and extremely difficult for someone in mid-age to go through, this is especially hard to a mid age who has no preparation at all for something like walking four miles, jumping out of truck or lunge forward with 40-50 lb. weight. After 8-10 hr physical training, you will have to sleep in a tent for several weeks without running water, clean toilet and taking a shower. The situation may be a lot worse when it is in summer. This type of physical training may cause a young man tired which will be over after a good sleep, but it may cause serious and permanent physical problem to a mid age. Army may have never thought about that direct commissioned doctors are usually about their mid-age and have lived easy life for long time. Not too many of them are used to hard physical experiences like these before they join army. They are happy to work for army, but army should treat them fairly. Mid aged people should not be trained in the same group as 20 year old. It is very unwise to expect a mid age medical professional who has never done any physical exercise in his or her life to behave the same as a 20 yr old. If this is not acceptable to army, then army should not take anyone in that age group. If this type of training is a must for everyone in army, then, army recruiters should tell all applicants in front and let them prepare for this. Army recruiters should not act like a used car salesman to hide everying negative. Now you have ruined our life and killed the reputation of army.

Besides the Training, how is your husband liking working as an army dentisT?

 

[teeth63a]

My spouse is a mid age doctor with easy life and fairly good income. After talking with an army healthcare recruiter, my spouse has jointed Army as a direct commissioned doctor. When talking with the recruiter, he told us everything beautiful about army doctor’s life, including attractive sign-in bonus, easy professional environment, good pension, comfortable retirement and possible placement in countries like Italy and Germany. He has tried to make deployment sound safe and easy. The worst is he has never introduced any detail about the officer training program which is actually the first and extremely difficult for someone in mid-age to go through, this is especially hard to a mid age who has no preparation at all for something like walking four miles, jumping out of truck or lunge forward with 40-50 lb. weight. After 8-10 hr physical training, you will have to sleep in a tent for several weeks without running water, clean toilet and taking a shower. The situation may be a lot worse when it is in summer. This type of physical training may cause a young man tired which will be over after a good sleep, but it may cause serious and permanent physical problem to a mid age. Army may have never thought about that direct commissioned doctors are usually about their mid-age and have lived easy life for long time. Not too many of them are used to hard physical experiences like these before they join army. They are happy to work for army, but army should treat them fairly. Mid aged people should not be trained in the same group as 20 year old. It is very unwise to expect a mid age medical professional who has never done any physical exercise in his or her life to behave the same as a 20 yr old. If this is not acceptable to army, then army should not take anyone in that age group. If this type of training is a must for everyone in army, then, army recruiters should tell all applicants in front and let them prepare for this. Army recruiters should not act like a used car salesman to hide everying negative. Now you have ruined our life and killed the reputation of army.

You've hijacked this thread from the original poster, and should start a new thread.

In any case, yes the recruiter may have omitted what was required in OBC, but due diligence is your husband's responsibility as well. All the questions should have been asked before he signed on. Ultimately, he should have talked to multiple army dentists or toured a base prior to signing up.

Having said that, he may still have the option to get out and should talk to the recruiter. Enlisted personnel are allowed to opt out during basic, he may have a similar option.

This may be an opportunity for your husband to get into better physical shape, rather than viewing it as "these are the things I can't do". If he really can't physically do it, what he needs to do is see an Army physician with his physical concerns and possibly get a medical profile that exempts him from certain physical tasks (ie PT and the 2 mile run). Worse case scenario is a medical discharge.

But hey, this is the Army, and OBC is not a vacation at Club Med. What he did during his FTX ("tents, no running water and no clean toilet") is some of the stuff that may be in his future, especially if he deploys.

Out of curiosity, exactly how old is "mid-age"?

 

[50 CAL BMG]

My spouse is a mid age doctor with easy life and fairly good income. After talking with an army healthcare recruiter, my spouse has jointed Army as a direct commissioned doctor. When talking with the recruiter, he told us everything beautiful about army doctor’s life, including attractive sign-in bonus, easy professional environment, good pension, comfortable retirement and possible placement in countries like Italy and Germany. He has tried to make deployment sound safe and easy. The worst is he has never introduced any detail about the officer training program which is actually the first and extremely difficult for someone in mid-age to go through, this is especially hard to a mid age who has no preparation at all for something like walking four miles, jumping out of truck or lunge forward with 40-50 lb. weight. After 8-10 hr physical training, you will have to sleep in a tent for several weeks without running water, clean toilet and taking a shower. The situation may be a lot worse when it is in summer. This type of physical training may cause a young man tired which will be over after a good sleep, but it may cause serious and permanent physical problem to a mid age. Army may have never thought about that direct commissioned doctors are usually about their mid-age and have lived easy life for long time. Not too many of them are used to hard physical experiences like these before they join army. They are happy to work for army, but army should treat them fairly. Mid aged people should not be trained in the same group as 20 year old. It is very unwise to expect a mid age medical professional who has never done any physical exercise in his or her life to behave the same as a 20 yr old. If this is not acceptable to army, then army should not take anyone in that age group. If this type of training is a must for everyone in army, then, army recruiters should tell all applicants in front and let them prepare for this. Army recruiters should not act like a used car salesman to hide everying negative. Now you have ruined our life and killed the reputation of army.

Maybe he should have joined the Peace Corps instead...