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I am interested in applying to UMass, even though my state of residence is NY. I went to college in Boston, and have been living and working in Massachusetts since graduating last year. Would this count as having a strong tie to MA? Although UMass is a great school, I don't want to waste an application, as I've heard it's fairly OOS unfriendly.
 
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1) I think those are very strong ties to MA that could only possibly be stronger if you were in-state.
2) umass actually is becoming increasingly more OOS friendly, if you look at historical data you could see this. I think it’s probably close to 75/25 split it IS vs OOS which in my opinion is pretty High for a state school.
I think with the right stats definitely apply.
 
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1) I think those are very strong ties to MA that could only possibly be stronger if you were in-state.
2) umass actually is becoming increasingly more OOS friendly, if you look at historical data you could see this. I think it’s probably close to 75/25 split it IS vs OOS which in my opinion is pretty High for a state school.
I think with the right stats definitely apply.
Thank you very much!
 
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Yeah, you can make the case for that being a strong tie. You can also emphasize it further in a secondary. Go for it.
 
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I am interested in applying to UMass, even though my state of residence is NY. I went to college in Boston, and have been living and working in Massachusetts since graduating last year. Would this count as having a strong tie to MA? Although UMass is a great school, I don't want to waste an application, as I've heard it's fairly OOS unfriendly.
Maybe this is a stupid question, but how and why is your state of residence NY if you have been living and working in MA since graduating last year????

If it's because you want to be IS in NY, you are really playing with fire here, because you can only be IS in one state, and it sounds like that state is MA. Telling UMass you have strong ties to MA while using your parent's address to claim NY residency for the NY schools might backfire if they put 2+2 together, assuming this is what you are doing.
 
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Agree with above that if you aren't a student anymore, you may not qualify for NY residency. Do you keep your car registered in NY or anything official tying you to the state still?

Apart from that, I got into UMass OOS and my only "tie" was that I was born in MA and lived there for the first year of my life...
 
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Agree with above that if you aren't a student anymore, you may not qualify for NY residency. Do you keep your car registered in NY or anything official tying you to the state still?

Apart from that, I got into UMass OOS and my only "tie" was that I was born in MA and lived there for the first year of my life...
I understand. I have a NYS license (I do not own a car at the moment) and voter registration (absentee) from this past year. My parents still live there, but admittedly I stay with them only occasionally.
 
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I understand. I have a NYS license (I do not own a car at the moment) and voter registration (absentee) from this past year. My parents still live there, but admittedly I stay with them only occasionally.
This may be bad advice, but you would probably be fine to claim NY. Just don't try to claim MA too. MA has super stringent residency requirements so you probably couldn't even claim it if you wanted to! I think your ties will help you a lot with your UMass/Boston schools, it seemed to help me and I barely have real ties
 
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This may be bad advice, but you would probably be fine to claim NY. Just don't try to claim MA too. MA has super stringent residency requirements so you probably couldn't even claim it if you wanted to! I think your ties will help you a lot with your UMass/Boston schools, it seemed to help me and I barely have real ties
Thank you for the advice! Definitely not trying to claim both, don't want to mess anything up with my apps.
 
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UMass is definitely friendly to applicants who went to college in MA.

Really? I thought that you pretty much needed to have graduated HS in Massachusetts to be considered in-state for UMass med school.

OP, if you have been temporarily staying in Mass while having a permanent residence in NY, paying NYS income tax, etc, then you might meet the minimum requirements for NY State residence.
 
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Really? I thought that you pretty much needed to have graduated HS in Massachusetts to be considered in-state for UMass med school.

OP, if you have been temporarily staying in Mass while having a permanent residence in NY, paying NYS income tax, etc, then you might meet the minimum requirements for NY State residence.
I think that OP might not meet requirements for in state but I’m not 100% sure there’s a few ways one can qualify. However, I think they have enough ties to the state to be considered in a good position as OOS applicant.
 
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I think that OP might not meet requirements for in state but I’m not 100% sure there’s a few ways one can qualify. However, I think they have enough ties to the state to be considered in a good position as OOS applicant.
Mass has some of the most stringent requirements for IS status that I’ve seen. I believe you (or a parent) need to have paid income tax there for 7 consecutive years. In OPs case, I think it’s still worth applying as OOS with strong ties.

Anecdotally, my colleague was working in Mass and claimed NY residence. He didn’t technically meet IS requirement for NY, but was able to get IS tuition by applying for some sort of exemption when he got into school.
 
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Mass has some of the most stringent requirements for IS status that I’ve seen. I believe you (or a parent) need to have paid income tax there for 7 consecutive years. In OPs case, I think it’s still worth applying as OOS with strong ties.

Anecdotally, my colleague was working in Mass and claimed NY residence. He didn’t technically meet IS requirement for NY, but was able to get IS tuition by applying for some sort of exemption when he got into school.
I have never seen a requirement like this, anywhere. That would leave anyone whose parents ever had to move for a job anytime between grade school and high school with no state to call home for either college or grad school. Do you happen to have a source for this?
 
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I found this on the UMass website. Not sure what it means for being a resident of the state
 

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I have never seen a requirement like this, anywhere. That would leave anyone whose parents ever had to move for a job anytime between grade school and high school with no state to call home for either college or grad school. Do you happen to have a source for this?
See screenshot above. Here's the link as well: Massachusetts Residency Classification

I was mistaken about income tax specifically. You or your immediately family need to be domiciled there for 7 consecutive years.
 
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I found this on the UMass website. Not sure what it means for being a resident of the state
Yeah. There are two issues here -- IS for admissions, and IS for tuition purposes. I'd call the school to clarify, but OOS tuition is no bargain there, so I'd probably stick with my NY residency and forget UMass, even if they allowed me to apply as IS. I wouldn't want to pay a $100K+ penalty over 4 years because I only lived there for 2 years instead of 7 before starting school (unless they allow your 4 years at UG to count, in which case you could either seek an exception or just take an extra gap year)!
 
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UMass recently increased its class size, and now accepts many more OOS students.
Really? I thought that you pretty much needed to have graduated HS in Massachusetts to be considered in-state for UMass med school.

OP, if you have been temporarily staying in Mass while having a permanent residence in NY, paying NYS income tax, etc, then you might meet the minimum requirements for NY State residence.
 
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