Questions about DO schools

[DOquestions]

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I'm just starting to research all of the DO schools. Therefore, I was wondering what you all think about the research opportunities for each DO school. I would like to do some research while in medical school.

Is anyone getting a master's degree at the same time as they attend medical school (DO/MPH)? If so, how do you like your program?

I'm aware that a person that graduates from a DO school can take step 1 (after the second year of med school) and match into an allo residency. Anyone familiar with the clinical genetics department at the MSU campus?

One of the most important factors to me for a medical school is the library. How would you describe the library at your school? Having journal subscriptions to all major journals is very important for my work and studies (I plan on keeping my pathology database job while still in medical school...yes, I know how many people are going to say I won't have time for it). I don't really care about space, I just want access and easy printing (free would be a god send) and copying.

I went to a local medical school and already got copies of the course objectives (for free...I"m not going to say how I got the copies) and the material taught seems very reasonable; not all that difficult.

One thing I was thinking of doing is taking an undergraduate course (via distance education) at a school that I know has damn good library so I can continue to have access to the library while I'm in medical school (IF).

How would you describe your location? I would prefer cheap, easy access, and a nice surrounding while attending school. I would prefer a quick drive into the city and out of the city. I don't care about the city night life.

Which schools are more numbers focused? Which schools take are look at the whole application?

 

[DannMann99]

I'm just starting to research all of the DO schools. Therefore,

I was wondering what you all think about the research opportunities for each DO school.

Depends on the school. I know if you want to do research at PCOM it isn't all that hard to find an opportunity.

http://www.pcom.edu/research/Research_and_Scholarly_Activit/Research_and_Scholar.html

Is anyone getting a master's degree at the same time as they attend medical school (DO/MPH)? If so, how do you like your program?

1 I Think getting an MPH isn't for everyone, also it adds an extra year ontop of your medical ed. I'd only pursue one if you knew you wanted to do something with it specifically... You dont need to waste another year for a picture on your wall.

I'm aware that a person that graduates from a DO school can take step 1 (after the second year of med school) and match into an allo residency.

Ok?

Anyone familiar with the clinical genetics department at the MSU campus?

One of the most important factors to me for a medical school is the library. How would you describe the library at your school? Having journal subscriptions to all major journals is very important for my work and studies

Do your own gd looking. http://www.pcom.edu/library/
I know PCOM has access to quite a bit.

(I plan on keeping my pathology database job while still in medical school...yes, I know how many people are going to say I won't have time for it).

Don't want to crap on your parade, if you can do it more power to you. But I don't think i've met anyone with a fulltime job in med school, some hold down part time...

I don't really care about space, I just want access and easy printing (free would be a god send) and copying.

I went to a local medical school and already got copies of the course objectives (for free...I"m not going to say how I got the copies) and the material taught seems very reasonable; not all that difficult.

Do you think you're cool for that? If you went to the websites you could bring up info... come on man; and easy? you're a toolbag.

One thing I was thinking of doing is taking an undergraduate course (via distance education) at a school that I know has damn good library so I can continue to have access to the library while I'm in medical school (IF).

If your job is all that important... Don't understand why THEY don't give you the journals...

How would you describe your location? I would prefer cheap, easy access, and a nice surrounding while attending school. I would prefer a quick drive into the city and out of the city. I don't care about the city night life.

Which schools are more numbers focused? Which schools take are look at the whole application?

If you have poor grades. Do you really think you will be able to hold a job, and do you really think the classes will be 'easy enough'.
I wanted to help you but the more I read the post the more you sounded like kind of a dik.

 

[DOquestions]

I'm just starting to research all of the DO schools. Therefore,

Depends on the school. I know if you want to do research at PCOM it isn't all that hard to find an opportunity.

http://www.pcom.edu/research/Research_and_Scholarly_Activit/Research_and_Scholar.html




1 I Think getting an MPH isn't for everyone, also it adds an extra year ontop of your medical ed. I'd only pursue one if you knew you wanted to do something with it specifically... You dont need to waste another year for a picture on your wall.



Ok?

Anyone familiar with the clinical genetics department at the MSU campus?



Do your own gd looking. http://www.pcom.edu/library/
I know PCOM has access to quite a bit.


Don't want to crap on your parade, if you can do it more power to you. But I don't think i've met anyone with a fulltime job in med school, some hold down part time...

My job does not involve sitting in a room for 8 hours a day to work. I work during the times I want to work. I'm salaried, not hourly paid. My boss said I can keep on staff as it only builds the credentials to our staff. So yes, I will still be paid a full-time salary.

I don't really care about space, I just want access and easy printing (free would be a god send) and copying.


Do you think you're cool for that? If you went to the websites you could bring up info... come on man; and easy? you're a toolbag.

Never said I was cool, did I? I simply went to the medical school, went to the bookstore, got the information for the courses (course title, etc) and got them from an hold high school friend.


If your job is all that important... Don't understand why THEY don't give you the journals...

I'm contracted with the local medical school library. But the library does not have all of the journals I want (Genetic Testing, European Journal of Human Genetics and a few others). So I travel to another local medical school to get the articles.

How would you describe your location? I would prefer cheap, easy access, and a nice surrounding while attending school. I would prefer a quick drive into the city and out of the city. I don't care about the city night life.


If you have poor grades. Do you really think you will be able to hold a job, and do you really think the classes will be 'easy enough'.
I wanted to help you but the more I read the post the more you sounded like kind of a dik.

Just so you know, so you can lower the blood pressure in your "dik," I'm not saying that medical school is not that hard; just that the material is not all that hard FOR ME. If I were to get a Ph.D. in a field that is heavy in math I would fail in a split second.

 

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I'm just starting to research all of the DO schools. Therefore, I was wondering what you all think about the research opportunities for each DO school. I would like to do some research while in medical school.

There are a few programs that offer DO/PhD's, and a a number more that have research projects. I'm not too familiar with the research that is going on at any of them..frankly because most of them have next to nothing compared to most allopathic institutions. The schools I have listed below will have above average research as far as osteopathic schools are concerned (most of them are state schools too). If you do research on some of the schools Im sure you can find some projects that are going on. KCUMB bragged the largest research facilities in the state while I was visiting, but I don't think they really utilize the space yet.

DO/PhD programs:
*MSU
*Ohio-U
*OSU
*TCOM
*PCOM
*UMDNJ
*VCOM

Which schools are more numbers focused? Which schools take are look at the whole application?

Most DO schools will look at the whole application. I can't even think of any off the top of my head that will discount you for your numbers if they are a little below average. I got the benefit of the doubt with a pretty darn low MCAT score because they were able to see my EC's and how much they've shaped me.

 

[spicedmanna]

I went to a local medical school and already got copies of the course objectives (for free...I"m not going to say how I got the copies) and the material taught seems very reasonable; not all that difficult.

The material isn't the most difficult I've encountered, but that's not really what makes medical school challenging. It's that you have an incredible volume of material that you have to review and sort through in very little time. The pressure is pretty constant and as soon as you begin to adjust, things change up and get harder, forcing you to make new adaptations. It's like special forces training for your brain...very intense. I wouldn't go into this process thinking that it's going to be a cake walk, because it sure isn't. It may not be the most intellectually challenging thing you could do, but it'll test you just the same.

 

[MossPoh]

I feel that this thread will digress very fast.

 

[spicedmanna]

I'm just starting to research all of the DO schools. Therefore, I was wondering what you all think about the research opportunities for each DO school. I would like to do some research while in medical school.

How much research do you want to do? KCUMB offers summer research fellowships where you work with faculty on a project, which can lead to publication in a peer-reviewed journal. As with other schools, you can also do an undergraduate fellowship in anatomy and OMT, which also includes research.

Is anyone getting a master's degree at the same time as they attend medical school (DO/MPH)? If so, how do you like your program?

I don't personally, but several of my classmates do. At KCUMB, you can do a dual DO/MBA and DO/MS in bioethics. The biggest complaint I've heard is that it eats up a lot of time, including summers, so you have to be pretty good at managing your time and triaging your tasks. An additional consideration for the DO/MBA program is that folks doing that program have to do their 3rd year rotations in KC, for better or worse.

I'm aware that a person that graduates from a DO school can take step 1 (after the second year of med school) and match into an allo residency.

You don't need to take the USMLE to participate in the ACGME match, but it can be a good idea if you want something a bit more competitive and think you can score well. Taking the USMLE can open more options and make your match process easier, but it's not required.

One of the most important factors to me for a medical school is the library. How would you describe the library at your school? Having journal subscriptions to all major journals is very important for my work and studies (I plan on keeping my pathology database job while still in medical school...yes, I know how many people are going to say I won't have time for it). I don't really care about space, I just want access and easy printing (free would be a god send) and copying.

KCUMB's library, currently, is pretty small and I don't think it's particularly outstanding (but you have to understand that I am accustomed to libraries seen at major academic centers and research facilities, like the NIH campus). There are limited resources due to size and much of the material appears dated. However, there are plans to build a new, larger and better library very shortly. Printing isn't free, either. You get a set amount per year and if you use it up, you have to pay extra, but I've never had that problem. It's always been adequate. We don't have color printers, though, unfortunately.

Some people work while in medical school, but it's pretty rare. Time is a precious commodity in medical school. I'm not saying you can't do it, but it's not going to be easy to swing it, if you want to anything other than a few hours a week. I suppose if you don't want to sleep all that much, you could make it work. Also, keep in mind I am talking about the pre-clinical years. Once you start rotations, forget about it. It's a full-time+ job from there on out and your time is not your own anymore.

How would you describe your location? I would prefer cheap, easy access, and a nice surrounding while attending school. I would prefer a quick drive into the city and out of the city. I don't care about the city night life.

The area directly surrounding KCUMB isn't that great, but as you head out to the surrounding areas w/in around 20 mins or less commute, such as the Plaza, Power and Light district, the Northland area, Westport, and Johnson County area, you'll find pretty much everything you'll need.

Which schools are more numbers focused? Which schools take are look at the whole application?

Most DO schools will look at your whole application and judge from there.