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Transferred out of Chicago to finish her final year of training at NYU. Hmmmm

Yeah, it's pretty easy to spend three minutes down the Google rabbit hole narrowing who she's talking about.

I don't like doxxing folks so I'll leave it there, but I'll just say - based on her original Tweet, I don't know if she means RadOnc co-resident or just same year co-resident at her institution.
 
Yeah, it's pretty easy to spend three minutes down the Google rabbit hole narrowing who she's talking about.

I don't like doxxing folks so I'll leave it there, but I'll just say - based on her original Tweet, I don't know if she means RadOnc co-resident or just same year co-resident at her institution.
Given that the doctor facing these multiple accusations is a med onc, I think it’s likely that the Chair who covered it up was med onc as well… especially since a rad onc chair would not routinely be involved in selecting who runs med onc student rotations. All of that being said, I am sure there were many many people who knew about it and did nothing to help.
 
Given that the doctor facing these multiple accusations is a med onc, I think it’s likely that the Chair who covered it up was med onc as well… especially since a rad onc chair would not routinely be involved in selecting who runs med onc student rotations. All of that being said, I am sure there were many many people who knew about it and did nothing to help.
You’re talking about something different altogether.
 
"The clinical work will primarily be based at one location, but coverage is required at other sites, as needed. "

You could drive a semi through that loophole...igrt satellite coverage lackey anyone? Plus if Ralph has anything to do with it, you'll get paid like a pediatrician to boot
 
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This popped up earlier when I was sitting around with several job-seeking residents and I asked them the same question (though specifically I asked "who wants to go work for Ralph?").

Crickets. Absolute crickets.
I’m shocked that there is no mention of protected lab time and research start up package in this job posting. It only mentions racing around to different satellite clinics for coverage as the schedule dictates.

Strange.
Satellite monkey, with low pay, but will still be very competitive given big city location.
 
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He has made tweets insinuating that going through 13-17 years of training should not mean that you get a job. That mentality is harmful.

I think that unemployed RadOncs that are looking for work could make other specialties think less of radiation and could be harmful to promoting the use of radiation in the future.
"We especially welcome applicants who have formerly served as an attending Radiation Oncologist in an academic institution, as well as those who have experience participating in clinical trials. "

Translation: Basically, anyone graduating from residency (especially) now or in 2022, you're an afterthought for this job and they will pay you accordingly should they be forced to take a new grad
 
Who wants to work for these guys??


U Chicago has four community practices, all on in the south Chicago area.

- Silver Cross Hospital in New Lenox, this is in the far south west of the urban area (the one with Dan Golden).
- Little Company of Mary Hospital in Evergreen Park, this is a first ring suburb on the south side.
- University of Chicago Medicine Center for Advanced Care in Orlando Park, this a south/west side suburb.
- Ingells Hospital in Harvey, this is mid south side of the urban area.

All of these places are probably about a hour or so from each other in terms of driving during traffic.

I'm not positive about this but I think only a few years ago their only satellite was at the Silver Cross Hospital.

This is what "academic" expansion looks like. Independent physician owned private practice groups have to compete with U of Chicago for contracts to staff these places. Other Chicago area "academic" centers have also expanded in the same way. The end result for us is there will be less physician autonomy, lower physician pay and fewer career options while your boss spends his time tweeting some legit crazy stuff that would probably get just about anyone else fired.
 
U Chicago has four community practices, all on in the south Chicago area.

- Silver Cross Hospital in New Lenox, this is in the far south west of the urban area (the one with Dan Golden).
- Little Company of Mary Hospital in Evergreen Park, this is a first ring suburb on the south side.
- University of Chicago Medicine Center for Advanced Care in Orlando Park, this a south/west side suburb.
- Ingells Hospital in Harvey, this is mid south side of the urban area.

All of these places are probably about a hour or so from each other in terms of driving during traffic.

I'm not positive about this but I think only a few years ago their only satellite was at the Silver Cross Hospital.

This is what "academic" expansion looks like. Independent physician owned private practice groups have to compete with U of Chicago for contracts to staff these places. Other Chicago area "academic" centers have also expanded in the same way. The end result for us is there will be less physician autonomy, lower physician pay and fewer career options while your boss spends his time tweeting some legit crazy stuff that would probably get just about anyone else fired.
Would love to find out what happened to radiation prices when u of Chicago took over those departments. I am sure Ralph lowered them because he does not believe in high salaries for the doc.
 
I'd be nervous to take a job like that also because what's the promotion pathway and/or pay structure? They hire you as assistant professor and pay you some low academic assistant professor salary. Then you sit at satellites with no academic potential, but they require you to publish and do academics to get promoted. This is a good way to spend most or all of your career underpaid and dissatisfied until you figure this out and go somewhere else or get stuck there because of family reasons.

Dan Golden was silent on this point during his brief stay here. I'd be curious what he has to say about this.
 
I was talking to my friends in a subspecialized field within the ROADs. Apparently, the academics buying smaller private practices and converting them to satellites are not just radonc thing - it's happening everywhere. There are recent trends of decreasing popularity for their fields as well, perhaps not as dramatically as radonc... Thankfully, my friends' subspecialty leadership has been much more proactive and has tightened their fellowship (fyi very competitive ones, not like the proton or palliative fellowship) positions quickly. We are definitely going to continue to lose competitiveness unless the monopoly stops (doubt this is possible anytime soon) or our leadership tightens the supply ASAP.
 
I'd be nervous to take a job like that also because what's the promotion pathway and/or pay structure? They hire you as assistant professor and pay you some low academic assistant professor salary. Then you sit at satellites with no academic potential, but they require you to publish and do academics to get promoted. This is a good way to spend most or all of your career underpaid and dissatisfied until you figure this out and go somewhere else or get stuck there because of family reasons.

Dan Golden was silent on this point during his brief stay here. I'd be curious what he has to say about this.
Dan used to post on these forums iirc?
 
I’m shocked that there is no mention of protected lab time and research start up package in this job posting. It only mentions racing around to different satellite clinics for coverage as the schedule dictates.

Strange.

That’s great catch.

Guy talks a lot of s**t about curing cancer then doesn’t hire them with any potential to do that

as usual radonc chairs show how stupid they are
 
. There are recent trends of decreasing popularity for their fields as well, perhaps not as dramatically as radonc... Thankfully, my friends' subspecialty leadership has been much more proactive and has tightened their fellowship (fyi very competitive ones, not like the proton or palliative fellowship) positions quickly. We are definitely going to continue to lose competitiveness unless the monopoly stops (doubt this is possible anytime soon) or our leadership tightens the supply ASAP.
We already lost it bro, worst SOAP stats this last cycle, psych has become more competitive for US/AMGs
 
We already lost it bro, worst SOAP stats this last cycle, psych has become more competitive for US/AMGs
I was talking to my friends in a subspecialized field within the ROADs. Apparently, the academics buying smaller private practices and converting them to satellites are not just radonc thing - it's happening everywhere. There are recent trends of decreasing popularity for their fields as well, perhaps not as dramatically as radonc... Thankfully, my friends' subspecialty leadership has been much more proactive and has tightened their fellowship (fyi very competitive ones, not like the proton or palliative fellowship) positions quickly. We are definitely going to continue to lose competitiveness unless the monopoly stops (doubt this is possible anytime soon) or our leadership tightens the supply ASAP.
#WeAlreadyLostItBro
#TightenTheSupply
 
“Sattelite monkey” - very upsetting but captures the essence indeed.
How about inpatient consult monkeys at the main center? 🙂
 
“Sattelite monkey” - very upsetting but captures the essence indeed.
How about inpatient consult monkeys at the main center? 🙂
Does this count?

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If you are familiar with the politics in the city of Chicago, here you go circa 2010...

The 537 letters were in response to UC building a cancer center in New Lenox IL just east of Joliet IL (SW suburb of Chicago).
UC somehow got the approval to build it anyway.

Scroll down and read letters on pages #4 , #6...

A few of them even mention RW by name. Just ridiculous
 
#RalphUnplugged

Accusing someone of lying and calling them "nasty"? Is Ralph about to do a bad comb over and poorly apply some spray tan?

Saying new attendings get bait-and-switched is a fundamental truth in MEDICINE, not just RadOnc. If Ralph thinks that's not true...well, let's just say I wish I was living in the Ivory Dementia Tower with him. His world seems much better than mine these days.
 
If you are familiar with the politics in the city of Chicago, here you go circa 2010...

The 537 letters were in response to UC building a cancer center in New Lenox IL just east of Joliet IL (SW suburb of Chicago).
UC somehow got the approval to build it anyway.

Scroll down and read letters on pages #4 , #6...

Ralph has been quite vocal that most definitive radiation cases should be treated only in large academic centers, with community centers delivering palliative end of life treatments. Obviously doesnt believe that consolidation of pts to large central centers would affect the job market or future need for radoncs.
Ralph also loves to impute greed. Looking forward to price transparency from u of c.
 
Dr. Lee from Duke just published this: DEFINE_ME
Are you sure Duke expanded this year? 🙁

I just bumped an earlier thread on this. To quote myself

"Programs to have officially increased spots from 2019 to 2021; Loma Linda 5 to 6, Case Western Reserve 6 to 7, Columbia 6 to 8, Northwestern 8 to 9, Thomas Jefferson 9 to 11, Duke 13 to 14."

I think the Duke one was spun as a physician/scientist or Holman thing or something like that (as if one of their current spots couldn't have been used for that).
 
I just bumped an earlier thread on this. To quote myself

"Programs to have officially increased spots from 2019 to 2021; Loma Linda 5 to 6, Case Western Reserve 6 to 7, Columbia 6 to 8, Northwestern 8 to 9, Thomas Jefferson 9 to 11, Duke 13 to 14."

I think the Duke one was spun as a physician/scientist or Holman thing or something like that (as if one of their current spots couldn't have been used for that).

Not surprising that ALL those programs are below average places except for duke. There's no reason for any of those places to expand. duke should be ashamed of itself, but it's known that they are a workhouse program where faculty likely need residents to write notes and put in orders.
 
@Dan Spratt - is unfettered expansion if residencies can find bodies reasonable? I.e. if MDACC wants 20 spots per year, has the faculty and resources to support that, is that reasonable? Forget MDACC, what about Mississippi? If they can find some FMGs that barely passed their Steps, have a few misdemeanors, and are unpleasant to be around but can fill the spot, should they expand?
 
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