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megboo said:
I am not against spanking at all. More spanking, less timeouts. However, some parents definitely need a course on what is spanking vs. abuse.
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I am opposed to spanking in most cases, but I wouldn't outright outlaw it, because I'm sure there are some situations where it would be warranted. I think it is generally better to come up with those so-called creative alternatives. Regardless, the article's point about not ever spanking a child in anger is definitely right on.
 
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Whew, I just had to catch up on like 10 pages...man, you slackers can yap. :laugh:

Just got back from the new house...the floors are gorgeous...those were done last week. The granite went in today...absolutely stunning. The slab in the master bath took my breath away. Sounds stupid, but it looks amazing with the faucets that we chose.

Tomorrow the movers come to load our crapola into the truck. Just one more day of this. I am wiped. So exhausted that get dizzy. Not fun.

Anyway...need to get more done before we sleep. Hopefully, I will catch you guys on here later.

Beary, congrats on closing...sounds so peaceful. You must be thrilled.!!!
 
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You would think I would remember to use nauseated instead of the other, but check it out... FOUR SYLLABLES! Where the other has two. I go with the quicker word 😛 no matter how wrong it is. And the reason why that word sticks out so much is from that one Drew Barrymore movie and she points it out!

Ok... time for donuts and harrasing high schoolers :meanie: Being an authority figure is 😎
 
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QofQuimica said:
I am opposed to spanking in most cases, but I wouldn't outright outlaw it, because I'm sure there are some situations where it would be warranted. I think it is generally better to come up with those so-called creative alternatives. Regardless, the article's point about not ever spanking a child in anger is definitely right on.
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Yeah, a parent should never punish a child in anger, regardless whether it's spanking or not. I have friends who wish they were spanked rather than deal with the psychological torture they went through.

I will always be an advocate of spanking, but I DEFINITELY agree it has to be done in the right frame of mind. I work with too many children age 0-3 and know that time-outs don't work 100% of the time.

I've seen well over 200 kids in the past 6-9 months, and I can tell which ones come from a home where the parents spank and which ones do not. (This is a question parents can answer on the background information so I know if they do or not - provided they answered truthfully).

But, i can only discipline my future kids someday. I also know that the spankings I got as a kid were 120% deserved. I was a hellion.
 
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I will definitely post pics of my new house! I don't know where my camera is now though. 😳

This house is way better than the shrimpy guy's house. I am very happy. 😀
 
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S&M - didn't read the whole article but I think I got the jist of it. 😉

I think there are certain situations where spanking or a slap on the hand is warranted. But I read at one point in the article where they were describing how to pick a correct "switch" for a child under a year old. 😱 My little daughter is not quite ten months and I can't imagine *ever* punishing her physicially. At that age they have no clue what is right or wrong. The only time my little daughter has ever been "punished" was when I told her "no" in a firm voice and put her on the ground after she bit me while she was nursing. :laugh: Fortunately she doesn't have teeth yet ....
 
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oxeye said:
Nauseous vs. nauseated is a pet-peeve of mine too. My husband always says he is nauseous. I've given up correcting him. 🙄
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I was not really aware of this difference all of this time! 😱

It's hailing on my car!! 😡

I'm in the hotel and want to go back up to my house again one more time tonight but am waiting for the storm to pass since I still have no idea where I'm going and this weather won't help. Then I will get dinner. My folks are going to get here at like midnight.
 
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oxeye said:
My pregnant sister has been talking about milkshakes a lot. Makes me want one all the time! hehehehe 😀
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I'm not pregnant, really! 😉

On a related and serious note, I am thinking about adopting (HAVEN'T started the process yet - just thinking about it and learning). Anybody know any single ladies who have adopted?
 
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megboo said:
Yeah, a parent should never punish a child in anger, regardless whether it's spanking or not. I have friends who wish they were spanked rather than deal with the psychological torture they went through.

I will always be an advocate of spanking, but I DEFINITELY agree it has to be done in the right frame of mind. I work with too many children age 0-3 and know that time-outs don't work 100% of the time.

I've seen well over 200 kids in the past 6-9 months, and I can tell which ones come from a home where the parents spank and which ones do not. (This is a question parents can answer on the background information so I know if they do or not - provided they answered truthfully).

But, i can only discipline my future kids someday. I also know that the spankings I got as a kid were 120% deserved. I was a hellion.
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Megboo - what kind of work do you do with kids?
 
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megboo said:
Yeah, a parent should never punish a child in anger, regardless whether it's spanking or not. I have friends who wish they were spanked rather than deal with the psychological torture they went through.

I will always be an advocate of spanking, but I DEFINITELY agree it has to be done in the right frame of mind. I work with too many children age 0-3 and know that time-outs don't work 100% of the time.

I've seen well over 200 kids in the past 6-9 months, and I can tell which ones come from a home where the parents spank and which ones do not. (This is a question parents can answer on the background information so I know if they do or not - provided they answered truthfully).

But, i can only discipline my future kids someday. I also know that the spankings I got as a kid were 120% deserved. I was a hellion.
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My parents did not spank me except for once that I can remember, and I definitely did deserve it. :laugh: My mom lays such good guilt trips on me that they didn't really NEED to punish me at all most of the time. :meanie: You're Catholic, megboo, so you probably understand how Jewish moms are. 😛 My mom's philosophy was that if she was already embarrassed by my behavior, she would have no problem embarrassing me right back. But she said she was able to take me everywhere, and people would comment about how well-behaved my sister and I were.
 
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beary said:
I'm not pregnant, really! 😉

On a related and serious note, I am thinking about adopting (HAVEN'T started the process yet - just thinking about it and learning). Anybody know any single ladies who have adopted?
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:laugh: I wasn't trying to imply that you are pregnant! I guess it did come across that way.

I've known several people (well parenting messageboard people) who have adopted. None of them have been single, but I'm sure it can be done. 🙂
 
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beary said:
I'm not pregnant, really! 😉

On a related and serious note, I am thinking about adopting (HAVEN'T started the process yet - just thinking about it and learning). Anybody know any single ladies who have adopted?
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beary, why on earth would you want to adopt as a single woman just starting her residency??? Or are you meaning like in ten years or something in case you don't get married? 😕
 
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QofQuimica said:
beary, why on earth would you want to adopt as a single woman just starting her residency??? Or are you meaning like in ten years or something in case you don't get married? 😕
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I am trying to educate myself about the process now and think really seriously if it is what I want to do (since obviously it is a huge decision). I was thinking, if I decide to pursue it, I would start the process in a few years since it takes so long.
 
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TypeA said:
May I tell you how totally thrilled I am that someone actually wrote "nauseated" instead of nauseous? People don't know the difference!!!
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oooh that bugs me so much as well! my mommy taught me that one when i was little, and i always correct people (even people much older than me), who say, "really? i thought you were always supposed to say nauseous."
 
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yep, that's how my mom was too. only once did i get a small spanking, and it was enough for me to learn. i was probably about 3 yrs old, and i was climbing along the banister above an open stairway. i could have fallen and broken my neck very easily. i could tell she felt so bad for doing it but she didn't want me to scare her again.
 
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scentimint said:
yep, that's how my mom was too. only once did i get a small spanking, and it was enough for me to learn. i was probably about 3 yrs old, and i was climbing along the banister above an open stairway. i could have fallen and broken my neck very easily. i could tell she felt so bad for doing it but she didn't want me to scare her again.
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I think this type of situation is where spanking is really appropriate. I was playing with my 3 year old niece and she just spontaneously got up and ran into the road when there was traffic coming. It took my breath away with fear. I raised my voice with her and told her not to ever do that again - actually made her cry. 🙁 But if I had been her parent I might have given her a little swat - not because she did anything wrong, but just because the consequences of that type of stuff can be so severe. Gotta learn it right away.
 
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beary said:
I think this type of situation is where spanking is really appropriate. I was playing with my 3 year old niece and she just spontaneously got up and ran into the road when there was traffic coming. It took my breath away with fear. I raised my voice with her and told her not to ever do that again - actually made her cry. 🙁 But if I had been her parent I might have given her a little swat - not because she did anything wrong, but just because the consequences of that type of stuff can be so severe. Gotta learn it right away.
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Well, that's the whole thing. You can't spank the child regularly, or it loses its shock value.
 
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TypeA said:
Whew, I just had to catch up on like 10 pages...man, you slackers can yap. :laugh:

Just got back from the new house...the floors are gorgeous...those were done last week. The granite went in today...absolutely stunning. The slab in the master bath took my breath away. Sounds stupid, but it looks amazing with the faucets that we chose.

Tomorrow the movers come to load our crapola into the truck. Just one more day of this. I am wiped. So exhausted that get dizzy. Not fun.

Anyway...need to get more done before we sleep. Hopefully, I will catch you guys on here later.

Beary, congrats on closing...sounds so peaceful. You must be thrilled.!!!
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It sounds beautiful!! I'm so glad you're happy with it.
 
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oxeye said:
Megboo - what kind of work do you do with kids?
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I'm a speech-language pathologist. I do therapy in the home so I see kids at their most comfortable environment.

Several on my caseload now are childrean who have behavioral issues as well as speech-language issues. Some in particular have infant siblings and are doing the whole regression behavior thing for attention. The moms give them verbal warnings and take toys away, but the kids don't care and they end up finding more toys in their secret stashes (all kids have secret stashes I'm learning). Time outs are a joke, too with these parents - they sit their kids on a stool, but these kids have figured out that they're not getting spanked when they get up, and eventually mom gives up.

When I do therapy, I bring a portable booster seat. I obviously can't spank the kids for discipline, but I can strap them in a chair for time-out. It seems to work better than the stool because they can't get it. But seriously, there comes a point when if losing privelages and time-outs don't work, it's time to focus on some other form of punishment. And the kids as young as two know EXACTLY what they are doing.

Then I have the angels I wish I could keep forever!
 
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QofQuimica said:
My parents did not spank me except for once that I can remember, and I definitely did deserve it. :laugh: My mom lays such good guilt trips on me that they didn't really NEED to punish me at all most of the time. :meanie: You're Catholic, megboo, so you probably understand how Jewish moms are. 😛 My mom's philosophy was that if she was already embarrassed by my behavior, she would have no problem embarrassing me right back. But she said she was able to take me everywhere, and people would comment about how well-behaved my sister and I were.
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Oh yeah, the guilt-thing was ever-imminent in our house. Mostly by dad, though. My mother was raised Lutheran and converted when she married my dad. My mom has a flair for the dramatic when she's upset, and we got spanked out of anger on several occasions. But we never did it again.

I come from a rural area, and my babysitter often had us go pick out our switches when we were bad. But were were 7 or 8 when that started happening. Before that we got smacked on the hand (if we were hitting) or mouth (if we were biting).

I look around and see the younger generation come from parents who don't spank or hit and see how spoiled they are and how disrespectful they are. Then I look at my generation and my parent's generation and see the result of better discipline.

For me, the bottom line is having a GOOD reason to spank, and doing it with a clear head. While my mom was hot-headed, my dad usually explained why we were getting spanked, and used the ever-popular "This is going to hurt me more than it will hurt you..."
 
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My parents used the "belt". I was scared of it so I tried to stay clear and honestly probably didn't get slapped after the age of 7/8 or somewhere around there. I remember my parents commenting on that sometime later. I tried to be a good daughter 😀
 
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hahaha.. THE BELT!! My parents never spanked me, but there was always the threat, and that was enough. I was a bad lili growing up, but when my dad took the belt off I knew to quit.

My mom tried to spank me once when I was older, but I was already bigger than her at that point so all I really did was laugh.
 
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megboo said:
I'm a speech-language pathologist. I do therapy in the home so I see kids at their most comfortable environment.

Several on my caseload now are childrean who have behavioral issues as well as speech-language issues. Some in particular have infant siblings and are doing the whole regression behavior thing for attention. The moms give them verbal warnings and take toys away, but the kids don't care and they end up finding more toys in their secret stashes (all kids have secret stashes I'm learning). Time outs are a joke, too with these parents - they sit their kids on a stool, but these kids have figured out that they're not getting spanked when they get up, and eventually mom gives up.

When I do therapy, I bring a portable booster seat. I obviously can't spank the kids for discipline, but I can strap them in a chair for time-out. It seems to work better than the stool because they can't get it. But seriously, there comes a point when if losing privelages and time-outs don't work, it's time to focus on some other form of punishment. And the kids as young as two know EXACTLY what they are doing.

Then I have the angels I wish I could keep forever!
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That sounds like interesting work. 🙂 My 2.5 year old is just starting to talk a lot - pretty behind other kids her age so I've wondered if she needed help. I think she's just a late bloomer, though.

And I completely agree with you about punishment with kids. Two year olds are definitely smart enough to figure out that a time-out doesn't mean that much particularly with a parent that is not really going to enforce it.
 
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oxeye said:
That sounds like interesting work. 🙂 My 2.5 year old is just starting to talk a lot - pretty behind other kids her age so I've wondered if she needed help. I think she's just a late bloomer, though.

And I completely agree with you about punishment with kids. Two year olds are definitely smart enough to figure out that a time-out doesn't mean that much particularly with a parent that is not really going to enforce it.
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Typically, girls should have a vocab of about 200 words around 2.5 (it seems like a lot, but you can use up 10-20 words with just family and pet names alone) and use 2-3 word phrases pretty regularly. This is minimum.

Some kids are late bloomers, but if she's turning into a chatterbox I'm sure she's fine 🙂
 
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megboo said:
Typically, girls should have a vocab of about 200 words around 2.5 (it seems like a lot, but you can use up 10-20 words with just family and pet names alone) and use 2-3 word phrases pretty regularly. This is minimum.

Some kids are late bloomers, but if she's turning into a chatterbox I'm sure she's fine 🙂
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I'm pretty sure she has more than 200 words now. 🙂 She starting to use complete sentences too.

Is it normal for kids to talk about themselves in the third person? :laugh: I'm starting to wonder if she's watching too much Elmo (because Elmo *always* refers to himself in the third person).
 
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mshheaddoc said:
Especially when they just sit there and throw a tantrum because they know they can 😎 My nephew does that alot. Now he's in time out and ignored. Then when he calms down he knows he can get up. It works.
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My 2.5 year is the queen of tantrums. 😉 She just finished a 30 minute one. She was playing with the phone, then got mad at her baby sister when she tried to take it, so I took the phone away completely.

That was apparently the end of the world ..... 🙄
 
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oxeye said:
Is this on SDN?? 😱
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Yeah. Someone a while ago posted info about a boyfriend who turned out to be a creep and she was freaking out. (I think it was a boyfriend - it may have been just a male friend). Anyway, I was married once before to a guy who was a professional con artist (years ago - I was very young and VERY dumb about that) and posted about it to make this girl feel better.

In some other thread about homosexuality, yposhelley didn't like what I had to say, so she posted this:

"Right, you're married to an ex-con, correct? Sure you wouldn't rather be married to a medical student?"

Implying that my current husband is an ex-con and that somehow my point of view isn't valid if he was. There were a lot of inflammatory remarks by her regarding my relationship, but this one I kept in my e-mail folder to remind myself not to talk to her.

If she had read any of my other posts, or even my blog she would know that my current husband is a fantastic man, and I wouldn't want to be married to anyone else.

And now she types that I have no ability to detect sarcasm. Whatever. She's perfect in her mind, everyone else is ****, and no one's gonna change that for her.

I'm just glad I don't have to personally deal with her and can leave it on SDN.
 
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You'll find that I keep most things of my life a pretty open book. Here on SDN or in "real" life. I keep things confidential when people ask me to or when the situation calls for restraint, however I have no problems using my experiences as anecdotes for other people.

I find I've helped others with stories of my life, but I realize other people can use that stuff to attack a la my ex-husband.

Yet, I have yet to meet one person who never made a bad life decision.
 
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oxeye said:
PW - will we get pictures of your new house too? It sounds really pretty!
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Thanks for asking! My sister keeps telling me to send some as well...as soon as we are finished painting I post.
 
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QofQuimica said:
Well, that's the whole thing. You can't spank the child regularly, or it loses its shock value.
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Shock value, yes...the pain never dies. My mom was a big believer in spanking ....and embarrassment.
 
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megboo, seriously, why do you do this to yourself? People know you're religious. They get a kick out of baiting you, and you keep taking the bait, so they keep doing it and egging one another on. So what if she thinks you have no sense of humor? She's some random med student whom you've never even met. Why get yourself upset by fighting with her over this kind of nonsense? Remember our discussion in the non-trad forum about respect? If people don't want to respect your views, why would you want to even waste your time trying to hold a discussion with them as if they did??? You're not going to teach these people anything about respecting religious views. Sometimes you just have to consider the source of a comment, laugh to yourself, and walk away.
 
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megboo said:
That jerk who called my husband an ex-con (not true) a few months back (yposhelley) is trying to provoke me again.

I used to have her on my ignore list - I need to put her back on.
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NO WAY! What an ass! What reason could they possibly have to do that? Idiot! I am so sorry.
 
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oxeye said:
I'm pretty sure she has more than 200 words now. 🙂 She starting to use complete sentences too.

Is it normal for kids to talk about themselves in the third person? :laugh: I'm starting to wonder if she's watching too much Elmo (because Elmo *always* refers to himself in the third person).
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As long as she doesn't *always* use the third person I don't think it's a problem. It might even be a phase - a lot of kids watch Elmo and call themselves by their name or a nickname.

Sesame Street is a good show but Elmo drives me nuts!

On Direct TV they now have a baby channel with stuff like Baby Einstein, etc.
 
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megboo said:
Yeah. Someone a while ago posted info about a boyfriend who turned out to be a creep and she was freaking out. (I think it was a boyfriend - it may have been just a male friend). Anyway, I was married once before to a guy who was a professional con artist (years ago - I was very young and VERY dumb about that) and posted about it to make this girl feel better.

In some other thread about homosexuality, yposhelley didn't like what I had to say, so she posted this:

"Right, you're married to an ex-con, correct? Sure you wouldn't rather be married to a medical student?"

Implying that my current husband is an ex-con and that somehow my point of view isn't valid if he was. There were a lot of inflammatory remarks by her regarding my relationship, but this one I kept in my e-mail folder to remind myself not to talk to her.

If she had read any of my other posts, or even my blog she would know that my current husband is a fantastic man, and I wouldn't want to be married to anyone else.

And now she types that I have no ability to detect sarcasm. Whatever. She's perfect in her mind, everyone else is ****, and no one's gonna change that for her.

I'm just glad I don't have to personally deal with her and can leave it on SDN.
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Incorrect. I mistakenly said "yeah-your husband is an ex-con right?" (it's her ex-husband that's a con or ex-con or whatever. Just read her blog I'm sure the info is there). I did this after you attacked me in another thread that had nothing to do with homosexuality. I was having a bad day and overreacted. Realizing this, I edited that post before you had time to respond (or for many people to even read it)-but you decided to repost my original one-since you have responding posts sent to your email address. Then, you complained to the mods about it after I had edited it. I then additionally sent you a PM apologizing. Just like in real life, people can sometimes post things they regret. At least I was big enough to admit it and apologize, huh, Megboo?

You, on the other hand-attacked me for stating that you don't have to have the best grades to get into an FP residency-claiming that I was debasing the profession. Let me reiterate that I have nothing but the utmost respect for primary care and think that they provide a great service.

And you've now called me a jerk behind my back-you've also dropped in other threads I was posting in to add a 🙄 . Though I don't expect an apology from you-I do expect you to be honest. And if you are going to go exposing your personal life all over the internet-expect that a few people may make comments you don't like. And they may not be as big as me to apologize for it. So you know what? PLEASE put me back on your ignore list. Because you don't have a sense of humor, and you're just as judgemental as you claim me to be.
 
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TypeA said:
Thanks for asking! My sister keeps telling me to send some as well...as soon as we are finished painting I post.
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Yay! I love looking at house pictures. 🙂

We just finished landscaping our backyard (after living here for 18 months). Now I need to find some new house projects. 😉
 
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QofQuimica said:
megboo, seriously, why do you do this to yourself? People know you're religious. They get a kick out of baiting you, and you keep taking the bait, so they keep doing it and egging one another on. So what if she thinks you have no sense of humor? She's some random med student whom you've never even met. Why get yourself upset by fighting with her over this kind of nonsense? Remember our discussion in the non-trad forum about respect? If people don't want to respect your views, why would you want to even waste your time trying to hold a discussion with them as if they did??? You're not going to teach these people anything about respecting religious views. Sometimes you just have to consider the source of a comment, laugh to yourself, and walk away.
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You are exactly right. I just told her to put me on her ignore list and I'll do the same for her and let it be.

My red-headedness catches up to me sometimes. That, and there's nothing on TV. I'm going to go read about gardening I think. Unless there are any more speech-language questions?
 
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