Random non-pathology and only peripherally related to pathology thread

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yaah said:
I had to close one thread where I think people were calling each other douchebags or something. Other than that I have just made some threads stickies. I don't abuse my power though. :meanie:

I don't like Crank Yankers. I don't think it's funny. Maybe it's because I hate telemarketers so much and that show reminds me of it.

Stalking? Stalking doesn't have to be a bad thing. I was looking for a stalking smilie but none really fit the bill. I will allow you to stalk me though provided there is no violence.
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nice!

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you need to abuse your powers and become a supermod.

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This is me ...
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This one could be a stalker...
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To answer the last question, I am not sure how one becomes a supermod. You probably have to be a little more mature than I am though.

Too bad next week I am back to being more busy again. 🙁
 
yaah said:
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This one could be a stalker...
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To answer the last question, I am not sure how one becomes a supermod. You probably have to be a little more mature than I am though.

Too bad next week I am back to being more busy again. 🙁
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mature? bah ... no maturity issues! Young at heart 😉

Busy smchusy. Everyone has time for SDN. Just think ... you almost done 🙂
 
mshheaddoc said:
Busy smchusy. Everyone has time for SDN. Just think ... you almost done 🙂
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Almost done with what? I have 3.5 years plus potential fellowship left of residency. :scared:

But yes I can't stay away!
 
yaah said:
Are you watching this going ok so far but looking potentially disastrous game? Tackle! Tackle! Contain!
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Yes, I just finished watching it. Overall, I thought it was a great game...I love games that go down to the wire after loads and loads of scoring. I'm just disappointed in the final result. Oh well...the Maize and Blue gave a valiant effort.

Next season, Michigan really needs to reflect on how sad their defense was this year...we could not contain Troy Smith, Vince Young, or any QB that was a good runner. The offense was sharp and Breaston was the bomb tonight. It's too bad Edwards will be gone next year but Michigan seems to develop a good number of promising wide receivers...next year's big go-to-guy will be Avant (?).

And I hope Ohio State gets penalized severely. I always knew Tressel was a cheater and a crook. *BONK!* to Ohio State. *BONK!" to Tressel.
 
I hate all these f-ing reality tv shows!! GO AWAY! And to everyone else - STOP WATCHING THEM and they will go away.
 
The recent spike in # of thread-posts related to $$$ in pathology got me thinking...

People don't usually fall into medicine "by accident", do they? - unless perhaps they were young and/or misguided.

If money is one's primary concern, then why even get into a medical career?

It's medicine. Most of us are not going to be broke, neither are we going to be rolling in gold.
Sure there are people who can get stinkin' rich doing medicine (and I don't mean Internal). But there are so many easier ways to earn that sort of money. Is there a studentlawyer.net? Or a studentMBA.net? I haven't looked.

Even after analyzing specialty salaries down to dollar-per-hour, even after a person makes their decision re: which field to enter based on their anticipated earnings convinced that they're going making top dollar, they're never going to be happy because someone's always going to be making more than they are. They'll always be "getting the raw end of the deal".

At risk of sounding like a jerk - I think it's greed, plain and simple.

But since there are new people asking this question all the time, I suppose this is something I'm going to echo to my grave.

Maybe I should go re-post this in the General Residency forum and get my butt whupped.
 
I doubt you would get your butt whipped, but you will get lots of posts that say something like "it's an important consideration" or "I still want to help people I just want to be sure my family is being taken care of" blah blah stuff like that. Some of it valid, some of it rationalization. I think a lot of people do think about medicine as a career with the rewards in mind but don't realize all the sacrifices that go into it until they are well on their way.

The one thing that medicine does provide is job security - think about it: Not many people finish med school and residency and have to hunt for jobs. They maybe have to "settle" for a job paying 95k a year at the very least, but you will almost always be doing well. If you have lots of loans and a big family and live in an expensive area it will be tough of course, but still better than many people in similar situations.

I completely agree. If money or lifestyle is your primary concern, medicine should be one of the LAST careers you consider. You have to train until your early to mid thirties before you make decent money, and at this point have possibly accumulated loans. And even in the best lifestyle fields (except perhaps dermatology which is an island unto itself) you work hard, long hours, with substantial stress. Meanwhile there are people who finish college, get an MBA, and are off to salary heaven.

Perhaps some of it is being naive. I mean, medicine sounds like a prestigious career, easy to make money. In some senses it is. In general doctors are respected members of society and successful ones. But doctors do not make up the high strata of social society unless they inherited money, married into it, or are businesspeople first with other interests outside of direct medicine.

But like I said, the good thing about it is that your chances of unemployment are pretty limited. There are unemployed docs but often this is due to things directly in their control.
 
I have "naive" stamped all over my forehead.
I think life is as simple or as complicated as you want to make it.

Would you do medicine again?

Like my match list, my answer depends on my mood that day.

Whether I felt up to the path of most resistance.

Maybe even like the premise of Sliding Doors.
 
Would I do medicine again? I ask myself that a lot. Dunno. Probably, because everything else I have considered leaves me wanting more. I wouldn't be happy in the business world, I'm not as aggressive a personality or willing to cut corners and manipulate people in order to succeed. My other track in life probably would have led me to academia and teaching history or possibly chemistry, and while I would have enjoyed them, medicine provides the extra bit of excitement that those fields don't to me.

Part of it is because it was really the only career I seriously considered when growing up - my dad is a doc and a lot of the professional people he associates with are doctors. The others do other things, but I never really knew what they did because it all seemed so nebulous. They "worked with money" or gave speeches or something (public relations). The people who seemed to be happiest that I met were the doctors, so I gravitated to it. Plus, in college, the people I associated with the most were premed as well - I assume that had an impact on me as well. I always felt that I was making a conscious decision to pursue medicine but at the same time kind of felt I had always been on that track.

But now that I am here, I am enjoying it. Sometimes I regret that I am 28 and still basically learning, where I could be well into a banking or economics career by now and earning $$$$$ (because I always had a talent for numbers and willing to work hard) but generally I am happy. Because I love what I do every day and my job is a daily learning experience.
 
yaah said:
But now that I am here, I am enjoying it. Sometimes I regret that I am 28 and...
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And I must state for the record again that being 28 does NOT mean that one is an old fart!
 
Today I feel an old fart. A sclerosed old glomerulus. I'm moving so slow I'm going backwards.

I actually meant that "Would you do medicine again?" question for everyone. I really am curious. Iserson's reports that as much as 30+ % of practising physicians say that if they knew then what they knew now, they wouldn't have gone into medicine.

For me it wasn't so much a question of "Why medicine?" as, "Why not?"
I probably have the exact opposite story: I didn't always know I wanted to be a doctor. I didn't have the classical physician role model. (I certainly don't grudge anyone theirs!)

Even as a kid I thought it was an impossible question to answer when people asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I just didn't know enough about all these grown people around me! I'd think, What's this "business" thing that so many of you do anyway? When I was about 8, the thought of being a pilot crossed my mind, until somebody burst that bubble by saying pilots didn't wear glasses.

My "career counselors" took the conservative view - the Pillars of Job Security were law, engineering, accountancy, dentistry, medicine etc. I simply did not find the other components of the Big Five (or Seven, or however many it is) inspiring.

My decision came down to: Here was something that I had thought about, and thought I could do. The possibilities were intriguing.

Not very dramatic a story, but that's mine. I don't know if I chose medicine for the right reasons, but I certainly hope not for the wrong ones... I mean, only recently has it entered my mind that after all these years, the moment of Dr. My-Last-Name is fairly close at hand.
 
Would I do medicine again?

For me, I don't think it's really a matter of what I would do again. If I were to have the opportunity of going back in time via a time machine, I would've picked up the electric guitar at a much younger age and become a metal guitarist. Either that or a concert pianist. Or maybe I would dedicate myself to basketball and rival Mugsy Bogues as the shortest basketball player to play college and pro basketball. I have no idea. Personally, if I could go through life again, I would not follow the same career track regardless of what I chose the first time. Overall, I'm happy with my choice. Going the MD route was my goal since high school. Developing a love for research during college complicated matters but I didn't stray off the path. Then deciding on the field of pathology was just plain natural. I don't regret things. Hopefully I won't regret things in the future.
 
Dude - if I had a time machine I would go back and sink a few thou in Microsoft or Ebay and by now I would be retired. I do like medicine but there is something to be said for having no job and lots of money. At that point I could learn all I wanted about medicine at my leisure. I mean I do enjoy what I am doing and don't regret it but that sounds sweet.

True though - the "why not" question is sometimes more relevant than the "why" question. Medicine is a field that still allows you to nurture your inner nerd.
 
yaah said:
Dude - if I had a time machine I would go back and sink a few thou in Microsoft or Ebay and by now I would be retired. I do like medicine but there is something to be said for having no job and lots of money. At that point I could learn all I wanted about medicine at my leisure. I mean I do enjoy what I am doing and don't regret it but that sounds sweet.

True though - the "why not" question is sometimes more relevant than the "why" question. Medicine is a field that still allows you to nurture your inner nerd.
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Good point...first stop though...Paleolithic era.
 
yaah said:
Bring me back one of those giant 6 foot dragonflies. Those are cool.
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They didn't exist back then. But I know what I'm bringing back...well there goes another New Year's resolution down the crapsink...
 
AndyMilonakis said:
They didn't exist back then. But I know what I'm bringing back...well there goes another New Year's resolution down the crapsink...
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Don't mess with their society. I don't want the world to suddenly change in some alternate Philip K. Dick universe where we are ruled by Nazis and the only available food is soylent green.
 
deschutes said:
...states Andy, once again confounding other posters as to whether he intends sarcasm or is simply being brief, thereby causing a thread-kill.
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sarcasm?
who?
me?

i don't remember why i posted that...it could've been an extension of the kind of things i was saying in the Lounge when responding to mushy...i have no idea...that was a while ago.
 
I have never seen Sliding Doors - the closest I came was seeing the preview. I am not a big Gwyneth fan (she was in that right?). Am I allowed to say I don't think she is that attractive? Because I don't. Something about her is just not right. Perhaps it's the fact that she named her child "Apple."
 
yaah said:
Well gosh darnit what good are you? What is the world without rampant pointless speculation?
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fine! his head gets chopped off by an emu with a machete. happy?

p.s. corky has just informed me that i gots some catching up to do. i need more rest though.
 
yaah said:
WTF Stop snowing!!!
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Heh. How much is on the ground, or has the rain taken it all away?

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I am witnessing a miracle.

I'm on call for Ob/Gyn - at 8pm last night I was told to go have dinner. I took my time over it, and got back to L&D circa 9 only to have the senior tell me, "Go read, and we'll call you if there's anything interesting."

"Go read," she said. 😱 What sweet music to my ears!
And that was ten hours ago.

Ah well, doubtless I shall soon be beeped to start pure-scut Gyne rounds at 7 🙄
 
I loved hearing those words. It happened to me on most of my OB call nights, except the weekend ones. During the weekdays, the residents switched at about 6pm so they really didn't want to get involved too much with teaching unless we pushed. So I kind of didn't have to do much.

So did they call you for anything interesting? 🙄 What could there possibly be? Depends on your definition I guess. I guess I would want them to call me if there was a fight on the floor between two family members. But as far as another "miracle of life?" No thanks.

The rain is washing a lot of the snow away. Unfortunately it is going to get very cold this weekend and things may be a bit icy.
 
11 months into clerkships and last night was the first time I heard those words. Ever.

Usually there is a senior resident figure who if you're visible demands to know why you're aren't helping out, and if you're not within shouting distance demands to know where you are. It makes my blood boil. On Gyne I'm a scut-monkey. Those ridiculous acronyms! After 6 weeks I still don't know what TVT is. But does it matter? No, because rounds are unsupervised and the only thing that matters is that you ask about pain and flatus and post-void residuals and proceed to discharge patients like your life depended on it. I can safely say that all the Gyne I currently know, I taught myself.

We have a procedure log that has to be signed off, and one of the items is "Vaginal delivery (assisted)". If you think that's unmanageable, there's also "Ectopic pregnancy".
 
Don't forget the staple removal!! Endless fun! Especially when you get a particularly whiny person who says "OUCH" before you even touch the staples.

TVT = some kind of vaginal tape for dealing with prolapse or incontinence or some other such beastly thing.
 
How's the weather in A2 now? Am I gonna have a bitch of a time getting back? Cuz I had a bitch of a time flying out! 👎
 
When are you coming back? If it's tonight I think so. The fog here is like San Francisco - visibility about 10 feet. Today it's in the 40s, tomorrow it will be in the AM with thunderstorms before it gets cold and supposedly all freezes in the afternoon and overnight. Then the weekend is going to be bitter cold (near 0). So I'd call the airline before you go to the airport!
 
yaah said:
When are you coming back? If it's tonight I think so. The fog here is like San Francisco - visibility about 10 feet. Today it's in the 40s, tomorrow it will be in the AM with thunderstorms before it gets cold and supposedly all freezes in the afternoon and overnight. Then the weekend is going to be bitter cold (near 0). So I'd call the airline before you go to the airport!
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Fan-tastic! I come back either tomorrow night or on a redeye Saturday morning. It's all El Nino's fault!
 
Today it's still miserable. They say the cold freeze is still coming later this afternoon but the bad commute might be tomorrow AM. Perhaps it will all be better my tomorrow evening. The problem with cold is that it causes airline delays which get worse and worse as the day goes on because of the necessity for deicing.
 
yaah said:
Today it's still miserable. They say the cold freeze is still coming later this afternoon but the bad commute might be tomorrow AM. Perhaps it will all be better my tomorrow evening. The problem with cold is that it causes airline delays which get worse and worse as the day goes on because of the necessity for deicing.
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Oh well...Michigan represent! They know how to handle this weather. It shouldn't be too terrible (fingers crossed).
 
It's generally pretty stable. It gets a little colder here than in new england - like we had a couple day stretch of 10 degree temps. But most days it seems to hover around freezing. We also don't get as much snow here as new england or other midwestern locales - spared from the "lake effect" that kills buffalo and cleveland and western mich.

Today is kind of a new england day though - this morning when I came in it was probably almost 50, but by the time I leave it is supposed to be below freezing.

But it is milder here than minnesota and iowa.
 
deschutes said:
Does south MI ever get freakish weather changes or is it steadily near/slightly below freezing?
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not really. the weather is temperamental here but nothing really surprises us. It's nothing like where you are.
 
Sigh. It's been 3 years now, and the irony of saying "It's only minus 23!!" (in celsius, i.e. -10F) is still not lost on me.

But what do you know... I spy with my little eye - a chinook next week!

I haven't had my skates out this winter. Maybe this weekend.

[Addendum]I learnt a new acronym today! 😛 "IPG stimulator repositioning". Even the PGY-5 couldn't tell me what it stood for.
 
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